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« on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 13:42:22 » |
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Fact - In recent decades Swindon have always performed best under a manager given his first chance at management
Fact - Those managers have all started as player managers
Question - Who could be Swindon's NEXT successful player-manager?
I'm going to think the unthinkable and suggest ... Tommy Mooney!
OK, I know he went to the Pox but, in my opinion he would bring grit and determination to the team. He has the experience and the passion and I think he could build a team who are fit, energetic, reasonably skillfull and tough enough to bully their way out of whichever division we find ourselves in next season.
Other points in his favour are that he lives locally and he would be within the club's budget!
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 13:44:06 » |
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Paul Smith would be better in my opinion.
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 13:54:56 » |
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i'd rather stick seering hot needles up my japseye than see mooney as player/manager.
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DMR
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 13:57:24 » |
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and i'd rather stick seering hot needles up my japseye than see iffy here next season.
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 14:02:26 » |
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mooney is a poor suggestion. but yes your right i think a player manager would be a good move. but it needs to be someone who has played at the very top in this country ala hoddle or someone similar. sheringham would be my choice but we couldnt afford him. however someone like him may be willing to come here if we give him his first shot at management.
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 14:05:06 » |
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the most important thing is the guy HAS to have top class contacts. sheringham certainly has that attribute, just think of the number of top clubs hes played for!
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 14:12:23 » |
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Sherringham would be a great choice but I was trying to think of people we could actually afford!
Mooney has played at a high(ish) level, (albeit not a premiership star) and has certainly been around and has lots of contacts. If he could transfer even a little of his drive and enthusiam for the game to some of our players I'm sure he'd get more from the club than we've seen for some time.
We are no longer in the market for names like Hoddle and Macari. Our budget simply wouldn't stretch that far.
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 14:21:28 » |
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i'd appoint peacock if anyone.
city had huge success with brian tinnion after all.
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DMR
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 14:24:22 » |
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Yep let's slag off Tinnion Iffy's proved him wrong :roll:
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 14:48:41 » |
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going back 30ish years... Fact - In recent decades Swindon have always performed best under a manager given his first chance at management only ossie ardilles, lou macari, glenn hoddle bought any success to the club in their first managerial role. on the other hand, you've got iffy onuora (relegated), john gorman (relegated), steve mcmahon (cunt), ken beamish (lowest ever league finish) and john trollope (only previous relegation to bottom division) Fact - Those managers have all started as player managers ardilles only played two games for us, macari 12 league appearance in promotion season. hoddle however definitely fits the criteria for both. |
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 15:06:54 » |
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"only ossie ardilles, lou macari, glenn hoddle bought any success to the club in their first managerial role. "
"ardilles only played two games for us, macari 12 league appearance in promotion season. hoddle however definitely fits the criteria for both."
So my original statement was right. They were all first-time managers and they started as player-managers. The other first-timers you listed didn't start with a playing role.
And you seem to be forgetting that even though he was a prat we did actually WIN a title under McMahon, (or doesn't that count because you didn't like him?).
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« Reply #11 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 15:09:23 » |
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kevin horlock it is then  |
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« Reply #12 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 15:13:37 » |
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it depends on how much of an effect you think a player/manager brings to a team through their presence on the pitch. hoddle for instance was arguably the main reason we achieved promotion to the premiership, whereas ardilles' impact as a player was minimal. macari was inbetween the two.
i was only 10 years old in 95/96, but to my understanding the team we had was far too good for that league and the only reason we were in that league was due to the mismanagement of mcmahon and the fact he was an utter cunt.
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 15:14:50 » |
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"only ossie ardilles, lou macari, glenn hoddle bought any success to the club in their first managerial role. "
"ardilles only played two games for us, macari 12 league appearance in promotion season. hoddle however definitely fits the criteria for both."
So my original statement was right. They were all first-time managers and they started as player-managers. The other first-timers you listed didn't start with a playing role.
And you seem to be forgetting that even though he was a prat we did actually WIN a title under McMahon, (or doesn't that count because you didn't like him?). That's true but if we're going to be ultra pedantic you did say that In recent decades Swindon have always performed best under a manager given his first chance at management which the youthster was trying to point out was incorrect. 2 appearances hardly accounts as player manager really. |
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday, April 23, 2006, 15:23:43 » |
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it depends on how much of an effect you think a player/manager brings to a team through their presence on the pitch. hoddle for instance was arguably the main reason we achieved promotion to the premiership, whereas ardilles' impact as a player was minimal. macari was inbetween the two.
i was only 10 years old in 95/96, but to my understanding the team we had was far too good for that league and the only reason we were in that league was due to the mismanagement of mcmahon and the fact he was an utter cunt. You thought wrong then....95/96 was McMahons first full season in charge...and he won us the league... |
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