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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 13:31:37 »

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If we had the US systems in place we'd be snapping up some quality youngsters in the draft this summer whereas Chelsea would be left with the chaffe.

We'd also be getting a split of every Chelsea shirt sold, I'm sure we could flog a few in Swindon these days.


thats the good bits of the US System. sdaly the rest is bollocks though
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 13:34:39 »

But we've already bought into the Franchise system with the Milton Keynes Buccaneers.

Lets look at another bright side for STFC if we changed, owners in the US regularly get to hold the local authority hostage to get new stadiums built for them.
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 13:38:18 »

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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 13:39:52 »

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But we've already bought into the Franchise system with the Milton Keynes Buccaneers.

Lets look at another bright side for STFC if we changed, owners in the US regularly get to hold the local authority hostage to get new stadiums built for them.


The FA have since removed the loophole that allowed the McDongs to relocate havn't they?

Sadly the local authority thing tends to work better when its a top level club (franchise!) that can draw in 50,000 for a home game
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 13:40:45 »

Football League have "guidelines" in place but there are still ways around it - if you are at risk of having no ground for example (so not really putting in the effort on lease negotiations, or maintaining the building etc).  It's certainly more difficult, but not impossible.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 13:44:22 »

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 15:51:27 »

Thankfully i didn't put any money in the bucket they brought round the other week,what a waste it would have been Wink
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 16:20:19 »

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Thankfully i didn't put any money in the bucket they brought round the other week,what a waste it would have been Wink


good point. one of their creditors would have liked you though Wink
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 16:25:10 »

I think the troubles we were in and Rotherham's current position show why the Premiership has ruined football. Players get paid too much which mean everybody wants to play there. Any decent lower league player will be bought for what is a petty amount of money as far as the big club is involved, then the lower league club is int the sh*t basically.
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 16:30:23 »

Whilst I'd agree that to a certain extent that the premiership has contributed to the struggles of lower league clubs, I think any pro worth his salt would have wanted to be in the top division regardless of the increased financial incentive these days.
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 16:41:09 »

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I think the troubles we were in and Rotherham's current position show why the Premiership has ruined football. Players get paid too much which mean everybody wants to play there. Any decent lower league player will be bought for what is a petty amount of money as far as the big club is involved, then the lower league club is int the sh*t basically.


The main problem with the premiership is that it gains the majority of football related revenue in this country. It's such big business that it's created this rich/poor divide (with a few exceptions).

The Bosman ruling has arguably contributed to inflated wages more than anything and as the pay goes up in the higher divisions the effect has proven to trickle down to the lower divisions.

It's true what you say about the petty amounts of money for players because clubs often get desperate for the cash. That said, longer contracts can help players leaving for little/noting and this technique has been employed by many.
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 17:44:53 »

I see a lot of it as the natural process of leagues balancing themselves out post digital collapse.

Look at this league this season it’s ridiculously open with two of the promoted clubs in Saarfend and Swansea vying for the top two places.

The poorly run clubs are slowly starting to filter back down the league without the cushion of  the ITV digital boom-era of being able to borrow and spend with little or no repercussions.  

League two clubs have been cutting their mustard for some time and with a combination of ambitious well run conference sides that have the advantage of a clean slate screaming at the door of the football league there should be no excuses for clubs not to cut their cloth accordingly.

The Championship certainly looks to have settled down but I won’t be surprised at all to see the relegated league one clubs seriously struggle next season in league two while those promoted I’d expect to possibly surprise a few people.
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 17:59:12 »

Well it would increase our chances of survival then :-))(
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 18:09:45 »

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Well it would increase our chances of survival then :-))(


Aye it does short term but I’d see us possibly struggle quite badly if we were to get relegated.

Plus if we remain as crap as we have been this season with the possible addition of Carlisle, Northampton, Grimsby and Wycombe next season there’s every chance we’ll be squeezed out.
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 18:29:24 »

i feel sorry for them! poor people have to push trolleys round their local supermarket on saturdays from now on! it was nearly us a few years back too
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