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Title: Agents Fee's
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 06:17:10
Very acceptable level seeing as we won the league - Stevenage spent more. Money well spent at Bradford!



Title: Re: Agents Fees
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 06:55:12
Agents' fees


Title: Re: Agents Fees
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 06:56:21
Bit early in the day for a pedantic fuckwit?


Title: Re: Agents Fees
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 07:02:01
Don't worry, many struggle with apostrophes. I don't think that I am being a pedant but many thanks.


Title: Re: Agents Fees
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 07:16:42
Don't worry, many struggle with apostrophes. I don't think that I am being a pedant but many thanks.
Youíre quite the unlikeable cunt, arenít you. Most of your posts are sly digs and very little content.


Title: Re: Agents Fees
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 07:27:48
Quote from: JBZ
Agents' fees
Thanks, I was really struggling to understand what Audrey was on about.

But your correction has cleared everything up.


Title: Re: Agents Fees
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 07:36:54
Youíre quite the unlikeable cunt, arenít you. Most of your posts are sly digs and very little content.

Many thanks for the feedback.  I will strive to work on my posts and maybe you can provide me with your further thoughts on whether I have sufficiently improved in due course.


Title: Re: Agents Fees
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 07:47:41
Many thanks for the feedback.  I will strive to work on my posts and maybe you can provide me with your further thoughts on whether I have sufficiently improved in due course.
No, you havenít!


Title: Re: Agents Fees
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:05:38
No, you havenít!

Ok noted. Nice use of an apostrophe by the way.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:06:21
Just noticed the heading - great work.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:21:37
Interesting comparisons there, we paid less than a quarter what Bradford, Scunthorpe and Salford paid and less than half what FGR and Exeter (held up by some on here as financial role models) paid.

Only 6 clubs paid less than we did on agents fees'.

What shocks me most is that Macclesfield actually paid any fee at all to agents, even the tiny figure of just £825, what with their financial predicament.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:24:03
Just noticed the heading - great work.
Obviously someone thought youíd enjoy that!


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:25:06
Interesting comparisons there, we paid less than a quarter what Bradford, Scunthorpe and Salford paid and less than half what FGR and Exeter (held up by some on here as financial role models) paid.

Only 6 clubs paid less than we did on agents fees'.

What shocks me most is that Macclesfield actually paid any fee at all to agents, even the tiny figure of just £825, what with their financial predicament.
Who did Macclesfield sign that cost them £825 in fees. 😂😂😂😂


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:27:13
Who did Macclesfield sign that cost them £825 in fees. 😂😂😂😂
Someone with a canny agent thats for sure!


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:47:10
Cant pay much in agents fees if agents own the club ;)


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:55:02
Cant pay much in agents fees if agents own the club ;)
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

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Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 08:57:03
No, you haven’t!

Going by his profile picture he likes motorbikes. Given how they generally behave on our roads it's hardly a surprise he's a monumental bell end on here.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 09:01:32
Going by his profile picture he likes motorbikes. Given how they generally behave on our roads it's hardly a surprise he's a monumental bell end on here.

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Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 09:15:35
Thanks, I was really struggling to understand what Audrey was on about.

But your correction has cleared everything up.
Nah, I'm with JBZ, proper sets off my OCD that.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 09:22:17
Going by his profile picture he likes motorbikes. Given how they generally behave on our roads it's hardly a surprise he's a monumental bell end on here.

At least its not a picture holding a fish, ladies find those pictures irresistible apparently....


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 09:24:56
Nah, I'm with JBZ, proper sets off my OCD that.
There is far worse going on in the world than worrying about inappropriate apostrophes and grammar TBH mate.

I don't like it but it doesnt' make me worry and feel the need to offer my own criticism, I guess I am a little more tolerant and accepting of other peoples mistakes.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 09:50:29
Going by his profile picture he likes motorbikes. Given how they generally behave on our roads it's hardly a surprise he's a monumental bell end on here.

A bit of a generalisation to be honest.  I ride with the utmost care and consideration.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 09:58:19
Said every motorcyclist ever..


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 09:59:11
There is far worse going on in the world than worrying about inappropriate apostrophes and grammar TBH mate.

I don't like it but it doesnt' make me worry and feel the need to offer my own criticism, I guess I am a little more tolerant and accepting of other peoples mistakes.
:D Like your work there PV


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:05:05
:D Like your work there PV
I try :)


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:17:09
I don't even criticise my writers for it. Provided it's not a regular occurence, of course. It's so easy to do and so easy to miss when proofreading. I'm even less likely to do it in forums and what not - it's crass.

What I do fucking hate is txt spk, bcoz it so fking hrd 2 rd. Those cunts can just fuck right off.

Oh, and the adver 'journos'. They go way beyond making the occassional error.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:31:16
What I do fucking hate is txt spk, bcoz it so fking hrd 2 rd.
What? :D


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:32:33

What I do fucking hate is txt spk, bcoz it so fking hrd 2 rd. Those cunts can just fuck right off.


When she was still with us my dear old mum used to send me text messages made up of what appeared to be some form of Gloucestershire txt speak, they were unintelligible. 


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 10:40:51
When she was still with us my dear old mum used to send me text messages made up of what appeared to be some form of Gloucestershire txt speak, they were unintelligible. 
Pretty much like Gloucestershire speak then. My Dads family originate from the Forest of Dean and when they have had a drink I cannot understand a word of what they say.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 13:33:45
My Dads family originate from the Forest of Dean

Jesus, you kept that quiet.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 13:36:55
Pretty much like Gloucestershire speak then. My Dads family originate from the Forest of Dean and when they have had a drink I cannot understand a word of what they say.

Totally, I took her back to the village of her birth a few years before she died, a couple of hours in the pub (where she knew everyone despite not having been back for 20 years) and I couldn't understand a word.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 13:42:45
Jesus, you kept that quiet.
Not really! I spoke about half my dad ashes going to Coleford/Lydney on the radio interview with Mark O'Donnell when his other half were put under the goalmouth at the Town End.

3/4 of my Grandparents were foresters, the other 1/4 were from the depths of Wiltshire! so not all bad ;)



Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 17:46:26
Going by his profile picture he likes motorbikes. Given how they generally behave on our roads it's hardly a surprise he's a monumental bell end on here.

Oi.

Motorcyclist lives matter.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 17:52:07
Quote from: pauld
Quote
 Thanks, I was really struggling to understand what Audrey was on about.

But your correction has cleared everything up.
Nah, I'm with JBZ, proper sets off my OCD that.

Sorry but your wrong


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 17:52:59
Quote from: Peter Venkman
Quote
Jesus, you kept that quiet.
Not really! I spoke about half my dad ashes going to Coleford/Lydney on the radio interview with Mark O'Donnell when his other half were put under the goalmouth at the Town End.

3/4 of my Grandparents were foresters, the other 1/4 were from the depths of Wiltshire! so not all bad ;)

** puts away inbred jokes
** backs away slowly


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 18:09:40
Nah, I'm with JBZ, proper sets off my OCD that.

Sorry but your wrong
Pfft, PV already did this way better  :smugfu:


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 18:10:47
Pfft, PV already did this way better  :smugfu:
:D not bad for an inbred* :D


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 18:22:51
Nah, I'm with JBZ, proper sets off my OCD that.

Sorry but your wrong

I would of highlighted you're error but that, I am told, would be crass


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: donkey on Thursday, June 25, 2020, 22:16:21
I would of highlighted you're error but that, I am told, would be crass

Good work.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Bob's Orange on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:00:38
Oi.

Motorcyclist lives matter.

I was being obtuse really as clearly generalisations are silly of course.

That said, we live on a relatively busy straight road which people in supercars and motorbikes seem to use as a drag strip. One time there were 2 bikers who decided to have an 'accelerate and wheelie' competition up the street. I'm going to sound like an old man, but there are families who walk up and down the road and it just takes one bit of carelessness and you have dead toddlers.

Another time a bike had accelerated so fast that he left it too late to stop at the red light that had changed at an intersection. Had he been literally 1 or 2 seconds later he would have driven right into the side of a bus. Is it worth it for the adrenalin rush?

I am fully aware that there are bikers that do heed road rules and are generous to other road users, but unfortunately its the mindless ones that stick in the memory banks.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:04:23
Very acceptable level seeing as we won the league - Stevenage spent more. Money well spent at Bradford!



As long as ours have all been disclosed! Exeter's Is surprising considering they don't really buy any players


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:06:56
I was being obtuse really as clearly generalisations are silly of course.

That said, we live on a relatively busy straight road which people in supercars and motorbikes seem to use as a drag strip. One time there were 2 bikers who decided to have an 'accelerate and wheelie' competition up the street. I'm going to sound like an old man, but there are families who walk up and down the road and it just takes one bit of carelessness and you have dead toddlers.

Another time a bike had accelerated so fast that he left it too late to stop at the red light that had changed at an intersection. Had he been literally 1 or 2 seconds later he would have driven right into the side of a bus. Is it worth it for the adrenalin rush?

I am fully aware that there are bikers that do heed road rules and are generous to other road users, but unfortunately its the mindless ones that stick in the memory banks.

As you say, a couple of dickheads do not represent the motorcycling community as a whole.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:14:36
Apart from these 2



Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:16:38
I have never made a clafoutis.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:35:13
As you say, a couple of dickheads do not represent the motorcycling community as a whole.
Yet you will find that they do by driving like dickheads, we call them organ donors down here, so at least they are fulfilling a role in society.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:43:22
Yet you will find that they do by driving like dickheads, we call them organ donors down here, so at least they are fulfilling a role in society.

I have not studied the stats but I suspect that a significant proportion of collisions that result in fatalities are due to car drivers simply failing to look out for motorcyclists and carry out the proper observations at junctions etc.  Just from personal experience, even though I ride defensively, I have cars pull out in front of me on most rides.  Car drivers also get somewhat bent out of shape when filtering through traffic.  They appear to resent the fact that you are able to make progress when they cannot.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:57:00
Of course there will be accidents where drivers don't see bikers, thats because people are not observant of their surroundings while driving.

I was trained as a Police class 1 tactical pursuit driver at Devizes Police Station where we were made to study some elements of this exact thing.

I can confirm that drivers awareness of their situation is at times woeful and of course they will have accidents, but these people will often have an accident even with something far more sizeable than a bike, they will pull out in front of cars and vans with the same reckless abandon.

What I object to is that without fail if I am driving at the road speed suitable for the level of traffic and road conditions there will always be a motorcyclist that decides it is too slow for his own travel and will overtake, often in the face of oncoming traffic, through a solid white line or near the brow of a hill.

Luckily I use a dashcam and willingly send these obvious infringements directly to the police via their online reporting system as my dashcam has my speed and GPS location logged on picture  and is a 4k model so will easily read a number plate.  Often I report them for their irrresponsible attitude if I consider it worthy of this and let the law deal with them how they see fit.

I cannot travel down here on an journey longer than a couple of miles without at least 1 biker driving like that.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, June 26, 2020, 09:58:08
Yet you will find that they do by driving like dickheads, we call them organ donors down here, so at least they are fulfilling a role in society.

Having spent 10+ years living under the helicopter flight path into the Royal Lancaster Infirmary helipad and heard the way too regular drone of the air ambulance coming over on Saturday and Sunday afternoons bringing in the latest rider whose bike speed has sadly exceeded their ability on the Devils Bridge, Ingleton, Hawes, Skipton, Kirby Lonsdale loop I sadly concur.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:03:14
rider whose bike speed has sadly exceeded their ability
This is THE main factor.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:06:57
Of course there will be accidents where drivers don't see bikers, thats because people are not observant of their surroundings while driving.

I was trained as a Police class 1 tactical pursuit driver at Devizes Police Station where we were made to study some elements of this exact thing.

I can confirm that drivers awareness of their situation is at times woeful and of course they will have accidents, but these people will often have an accident even with something far more sizeable than a bike, they will pull out in front of cars and vans with the same reckless abandon.

What I object to is that without fail if I am driving at the road speed suitable for the level of traffic and road conditions there will always be a motorcyclist that decides it is too slow for his own travel and will overtake, often in the face of oncoming traffic, through a solid white line or near the brow of a hill.

Luckily I use a dashcam and willingly send these obvious infringements directly to the police via their online reporting system as my dashcam has my speed and GPS location logged on picture  and is a 4k model so will easily read a number plate.  Often I report them for their irrresponsible attitude if I consider it worthy of this and let the law deal with them how they see fit.

I cannot travel down here on an journey longer than a couple of miles without at least 1 biker driving like that.

I have seen instances where both motorcyclists and car drivers over take in dangerous situations. The point is that all motorcyclists are 'tarred with the same brush' as an old racist uncle used to say.

Luckily, I also wear a helmet cam to document the poor and inconsiderate driving (cars and motorcycles) on the roads of Somerset, Devon and Dorset.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:11:36
I have seen instances where both motorcyclists and car drivers over take in dangerous situations. The point is that all motorcyclists are 'tarred with the same brush' as an old racist uncle used to say.

Luckily, I also wear a helmet cam to document the poor and inconsiderate driving (cars and motorcycles) on the roads of Somerset, Devon and Dorset.
Absolutely, I would also report the driver of a BMW if he did the same, there are a lot of ignorant and irresponsible drivers of bikes, vans and cars. People seem ignorant of the fact that dashcams etc are freely available and their actions will no longer have no consiquences as the process to report is an easy one.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:15:45
Absolutely, I would also report the driver of a BMW if he did the same, there are a lot of ignorant and irresponsible drivers of bikes, vans and cars. People seem ignorant of the fact that dashcams etc are freely available and their actions will no longer have no consiquences as the process to report is an easy one.

I will keep an eye out for your Ioniq


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: michael on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:16:02
Car drivers also get somewhat bent out of shape when filtering through traffic.  They appear to resent the fact that you are able to make progress when they cannot.
The Venn diagram of those car drivers, and the ones that drive aggressively at cyclists is a perfect circle.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:17:37
I will keep an eye out for your Ioniq
Please do, as I will keep an eye out for the 1 non overtaking motorcycle.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:20:10
So... those agents huh


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:20:15
I have seen instances where both motorcyclists and car drivers over take in dangerous situations. The point is that all motorcyclists are 'tarred with the same brush' as an old racist uncle used to say.

Luckily, I also wear a helmet cam to document the poor and inconsiderate driving (cars and motorcycles) on the roads of Somerset, Devon and Dorset.
Donít think your old uncle was racist all. The original term was used by Sir Walter Scott in his novel Rob Roy and was describing Jacobists and Papists.

Obviously, the easily offended have extrapolated tar to mean black, black to mean racist. All hogwash.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:21:53
So... those agents huh
Coming over here driving those motorbikes....


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:23:58
Perhaps we can get back to the correct use of apostrophes


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:24:32
Perhaps we can get back to the correct use of apostrophes'
Done.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:27:17
James Bond is my favourite agent


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: JBZ on Friday, June 26, 2020, 10:37:53
Donít think your old uncle was racist all. The original term was used by Sir Walter Scott in his novel Rob Roy and was describing Jacobists and Papists.

Obviously, the easily offended have extrapolated tar to mean black, black to mean racist. All hogwash.

Not sure if you knew him but he was


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: A Gent Orange on Friday, June 26, 2020, 13:57:31
James Bond is my favourite agent

Allows me to remember a favourite Clough quote:

ďThe only agent back then was 007 Ė and he shagged women, not football clubsĒ


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: bamboonoshop on Friday, June 26, 2020, 17:54:42
I'm not a fan of Agent Orange (not the one on here).


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 29, 2020, 16:35:42
Going back to the original post subject, putting our £28,818 spent on agent fees into context....

Wellens said in a recent interview that our entire playing budget for the season was £1.8m.

This coming season we will be playing Sunderland whos agent fees over the same period amounted to an astonishing £1.35m alone! and that was half the previous seasons figure!

Only 4 clubs spent less on agent fees in L1 than we did - Gills(£28k), Wycombe(£26k), Rochdale(15k) and Bolton (£0), even Accrington spent marginally more than us with both local rivals Oxford and Rovers spending around £140k mark around 5 times the amount.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, June 29, 2020, 18:22:53
I think Wellens May have been a bit sneaky about the £1.8m budget.

Iím sure thatís what the budget was last June. But stuck on the January window and it must have gone well over that.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, June 29, 2020, 18:26:54
I think Wellens May have been a bit sneaky about the £1.8m budget.

Iím sure thatís what the budget was last June. But stuck on the January window and it must have gone well over that.

There's every chance of that being the case. He's known for not being entirely honest about transfers and stuff.


Title: Re: Agents Fee's
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, June 29, 2020, 19:07:44
I think Wellens May have been a bit sneaky about the £1.8m budget.

Iím sure thatís what the budget was last June. But stuck on the January window and it must have gone well over that.
Yes Wellens has not been 100% honest with transfers etc but if Power is signing players like Grant or Doyle on a fraction of their fee then that could explain a lower budget than thought, or Wellens could be distorting the truth to put other clubs off from know our actual budget.

The point still stands that Sunderland have wasted a metric shit ton of funds on agent fees though.