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Title: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:32:58
As above.

Called this weeks ago ;)


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:34:49
Thats a pretty big name TBH. I never saw you call it mate, well done though. I know Power gets on well with PJ and Wellens did say he was after bringing in a good experienced coach soon in his interview after the Carlisle debacle.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:41:17
Didn't see that coming.  I can only assume that Wellens has been in on this (or something similar) since taking the job.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:42:00
Good move. It's clearly an area that Power struggles with.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:43:21
Great appointment...

...11-12 years ago...


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:43:51
Do Wellens and Jewell have any previous history/connections?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:44:52
Jewell was his assistant at Oldham briefly I think


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:48:16
Great appointment...

...11-12 years ago...

I would be inclined to agree, however on looking he is only 54 - seems to have been managing for bloody years!


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:48:29
Jewell was his assistant at Oldham briefly I think

One month.... the Latics fans blamed Jewell for the down turn in form after the initial Wellens' 5 wins bounce.

Bit Scouse for my taste... but Wellens seems pretty clear about what he wants from PJ, so a fair enough appointement.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: DV Canio on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:51:19
I would be inclined to agree, however on looking he is only 54 - seems to have been managing for bloody years!

He did bloody well at Bradford and Wigan to be fair to him.

Been all downhill since he resigned for Wigan in 2007.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:51:25
One month.... the Latics fans blamed Jewell for the down turn in form after the initial Wellens' 5 wins bounce.

Bit Scouse for my taste... but Wellens seems pretty clear about what he wants from PJ, so a fair enough appointement.
Considering the amount of quotes I read from Oldham fans about Wellens, not once did I see any mention of Paul Jewell being at fault.
Do you make this stuff up?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:56:23
Considering the amount of quotes I read from Oldham fans about Wellens, not once did I see any mention of Paul Jewell being at fault.
Do you make this stuff up?

From the Manchester Evening News...

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Some supporters pointed blame at Jewell for the club's current poor run of form , with the team winning just one of their seven league games since he joined. 


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:57:56
One month.... the Latics fans blamed Jewell for the down turn in form after the initial Wellens' 5 wins bounce.

Bit Scouse for my taste... but Wellens seems pretty clear about what he wants from PJ, so a fair enough appointement.

If the situation is as similar as that to the time they were both at Oldham, you'd hope they will have learned lessons from it.  Let Oldham be the trial run.  Their personal relationship does not seem to have suffered from it, at least.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 10:59:23
From the Manchester Evening News...


So there are no direct quote’s from fans? Just a newspaper quote.
Must be true then.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:00:12
Going by Wellens' quotes, PJ is here largely to handle contracts, help with identifying players and scouting and stuff. Which is what DOFs do. Very good timing considering there's a window just 3 weeks away.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:04:08
I think Jewell recommended Wellens for this job didn’t he?

Good appointment on the face of it. Tactically the game has moved on since Jewell’s successes, but he’s not here to get involved with the tactics.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:05:47
So there are no direct quote’s from fans? Just a newspaper quote.
Must be true then.

I tend not to place too much credence on what fans think, other than putting it into the debate. 

As I said Wellens seems clear about what he wants from PJ, therefore it's a fair enough appointment.  We just wait and see what it delivers.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:08:48
As above.

Called this weeks ago ;)

The pinnacle of Tansmedia's illustrious history so far?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:09:13
Going by Wellens' quotes, PJ is here largely to handle contracts, help with identifying players and scouting and stuff. Which is what DOFs do. Very good timing considering there's a window just 3 weeks away.
Fuck off BR, me and you both know it’s another ‘jobs for the boys’ appointment.  ;)


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:12:13
Very positive. Shows at least we haven't scraped the bottom of the budget barrel yet.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:15:18
I tend not to place too much credence on what fans think, other than putting it into the debate. 

As I said Wellens seems clear about what he wants from PJ, therefore it's a fair enough appointment.  We just wait and see what it delivers.
It’s nice to see/know it’s a Wellens appointment, as opposed to another Sherwood/Williams incident.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:15:30
Very positive. Shows at least we haven't scraped the bottom of the budget barrel yet.

I'd imagine the remuneration is heavily dependent on getting cuts from any transfer fees generated.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:17:51
It’s nice to see/know it’s a Wellens appointment, as opposed to another Sherwood/Williams incident.

Yes. The fact that Power and Jewell have some previous is probably a bonus.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: REDBUCK on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:18:21
Great appointment...

...11-12 years ago...

So what's the issue.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:19:12
Makes a lot of sense to me.

While Wellens and Hunt have had a great (league) start, they are extremely inexperienced. At some point they will hit a sticky patch and its good to have experience to draw back on.

They also need to attract players that may well share the skepticism many of us had at the Wellens appointment.

Success or otherwise the appointment makes a lot of sense in addressing the concerns (and makes more sense of the Wellens appointment in the first place)

edit: concerns on his best before date - we'll have to wait and see.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: REDBUCK on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:20:16
So there are no direct quote’s from fans? Just a newspaper quote.
Must be true then.

I think I saw something in the New York Times as well


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:23:15
The pinnacle of Tansmedia's illustrious history so far?

Nah that was the Obika to oxford one


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:28:41
Reserving judgement for now. Not sure what to make of this yet but if it helps Wellens then it should be seen as a positive.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: sir windon on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:33:35
What is the point in getting him to claim it is "coincidental" that he used to play with Power? Surely best to start off open and upfront if you want the genuine support of the fans?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:39:25
Seems a positivs step to me, given that (a) Power didn't have to spend money on a DOF and (b) this seems to have come from Wellens rather than Power.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: tans on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:39:41
His son was here as Chief Scout too a couple of years back.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 12:04:44
His son was here as Chief Scout too a couple of years back.
And look how well that went!


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: RedRag on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 12:36:38
Was sceptical after the Sherwood debacle but the fact Wellens seems to be behind it and other posters' comments such as the experience Jewell could bring and the attractiveness of the name to potential signings are all good.

Never too sure about the DOF role though, especially at a minnow club like our's, but cautiously optimistic.

Might change my mind after the Grimsby and 'Nam results  ;)


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 12:42:54
Sounds like a positive step that may help Wellens, especially as he is inexperienced and Jewell isn't so will help to spot the decent players from the crocs that Wellens may struggle with to start with, but the chief scout is also inexperienced so with Jewell in the middle it should be positive.

Then when things get tight Wellens will hopefully be able to use Jewell as a sounding board....time will tell though


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 12:42:58
And look how well that went!
Well he works for Brighton now so obviously did something right.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 12:54:02
This all seems perfectly sensible. From Jewell’s perspective, I am sure most of it can be done on the phone, from where he lives without uprooting. He’s working with a known quantity - and it puts his name back in the media and speaking to people who could possibly employ him full time. From ours, it may open doors that were otherwise shut. It would be interesting to know if he’ll be on the training pitch - perhaps not, and perhaps that is a good thing - let’s Wellens be his own man. Win win.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 13:20:11
Seems like a good move all round, Jewell has experience and can help Wellens and Hunt, Jewell obviously knows about the club already having had his son work with us fairly successfully (he wouldn't have got the job at Brighton if he wasn't), Jewell also knows Power quite well too.

Heres hoping we see the benefits on the pitch with Jewell identifying positions that need strengthening and signing them.

Then again it seems I am far too positive about it than most Town fans appear to be, I guess Power could have brought in Alex Ferguson and some fans would moan hes too old, out of touch with the new game etc etc etc.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 13:38:38

Then again it seems I am far too positive about it than most Town fans appear to be, I guess Power could have brought in Alex Ferguson and some fans would moan hes too old, out of touch with the new game etc etc etc.
To be fair JJ, most of the comments I have seen all seem to be pretty positive. Which makes a welcome change.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 13:39:56
To be fair JJ, most of the comments I have seen all seem to be pretty positive. Which makes a welcome change.
Not on the Swindon facebook pages! :facepalm:


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 13:42:10
Not on the Swindon facebook pages! :facepalm:
Ah, I avoid them for obvious reasons. Even the adver comments section seems positive though.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 13:50:02
Ah, I avoid them for obvious reasons. Even the adver comments section seems positive though.
Just a couple on 1 page.

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Why?
Wellens is doing okay, I'd rather see the budget go on the January transfers he needs

Is it 2005?

Not worked as a manager since 2012, never worked as a DoF.
Is this a way of finding jobs for mates? What exactly can Jewell teach Wellens when he’s had only fleeting involvement with football over the last six years?
Tim Sherwood Mark 2.

Just another Job for the boys ... Tactics Tim all over again

Another useless plonker in same role as another sher wood

In answer to post 1, the playing budget is different than the non playing budget, they don't come out of the same pot so thats irrelevant.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 13:59:05
Seems like a good move all round, Jewell has experience and can help Wellens and Hunt, Jewell obviously knows about the club already having had his son work with us fairly successfully (he wouldn't have got the job at Brighton if he wasn't), Jewell also knows Power quite well too.

Heres hoping we see the benefits on the pitch with Jewell identifying positions that need strengthening and signing them.

Then again it seems I am far too positive about it than most Town fans appear to be, I guess Power could have brought in Alex Ferguson and some fans would moan hes too old, out of touch with the new game etc etc etc.

Let's face it, cynicism is hardly surprising given Power's last venture into DoFland.  On the surface TT looked to have some credit in the bank. Watching Spurs the other day, the pundit mentioned how TT deserved some credit for showing faith and developing Harry Kane.

Maybe Jewell will turn into our Barry Fry.... it's estimated that Fry has made about 20 mill or so on transfers in his time as Posh DoF.  Some of that he'll have had for his troiubles, but some will have gone back into keeping the club viable in Div 3, something we should but currently aren't capable of doing.  So let's hope PJ is up to it.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 14:54:10
I get my wish of a few weeks ago...albeit I’m not sure whether Jewell will spend much time on the training pitch. Excellent appointment.

Hunt as chief cone gatherer is an interesting one....I had hoped for Paul Jewell, a proper football man, but given Power has paid off two contracts I think I was always being slightly optimistic.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 15:03:09
I get my wish of a few weeks ago...albeit I’m not sure whether Jewell will spend much time on the training pitch. Excellent appointment.


Can I just point out this must have been Chang Chang rather than Reg Chang as I wouldn't have wanted Jewell anywhere near cone collecting.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 15:03:20
I get my wish of a few weeks ago...albeit I’m not sure whether Jewell will spend much time on the training pitch.
In his first post match interview after the Carlisle defeat he said he was working on bringing in a very experienced coach to assist in training, I think he could well be involved too in training, unless Wellens was talking about another experienced coach.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 15:15:16
Can I just point out this must have been Chang Chang rather than Reg Chang as I wouldn't have wanted Jewell anywhere near cone collecting.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/nmXzfuNWmGzTi/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 17:46:40
What the holy hell is that gif?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 17:50:20
What the holy hell is that gif?

Think it's meant to be Chang....


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 19:37:25
What the holy hell is that gif?
Its called "sassy" I thought it fitted :)


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 20:14:35
Gonna give me nightmares. Cheers


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 20:23:00
You are more than welcome :D


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: bamboonoshop on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 20:26:52
Happy with the appointment, he'll bring a fount of knowledge for this level and likey can spot a decent player or two. Hopefully he's over his "Reader's Wives" days now... :soapy tit wank:


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 20:45:29
Gem of an appointment.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: bamboonoshop on Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 22:07:03
Gem of an appointment.

I'll go as Sapphire to say I agree.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 07:09:56
Didn't we already have a DoF? Wasn't the former Aston Villa bloke in that slot? Or is he the CEO?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 09:13:05
Didn't we already have a DoF? Wasn't the former Aston Villa bloke in that slot? Or is he the CEO?
As far as I know we have only ever had one other DoF ever and that was Sherwood.

We had a sporting director I think a couple of years back who became Academy Director...Seamus Brady, is that who you thought it was?

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=56223.0


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 09:35:16
As far as I know we have only ever had one other DoF ever and that was Sherwood.

We had a sporting director I think a couple of years back who became Academy Director...Seamus Brady, is that who you thought it was?

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=56223.0
Going a long way back, wasn’t Roy Evans classed as a director of football when we appointed him?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 09:50:42
Going a long way back, wasn’t Roy Evans classed as a director of football when we appointed him?
It was reported as DoF and also reported as being Manager so who really know?

The other time was under Andy King and we approached Mel Machin but he turned us down as DoF or visa versa!

https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/5384614.Machin_set_for_Swindon_post/


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 09:55:31
Going a long way back, wasn’t Roy Evans classed as a director of football when we appointed him?

There have been a few candidates down the years back to probably Danny Williams, it's just what they're called at the time.

Danny was General Manager

I always thought it a bit of a shame that we couldn't have made use of Kingy in some sort of role, after he was sacked.

Could spot a player and seemed to be able to work the deals.


Title: Re: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 18:16:27
Quote from: Reg Smeeton
Maybe Jewell will turn into our Barry Fry....

or maybe not

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46546484


Title: Re: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 18:34:58
or maybe not

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46546484

  :) 


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, December 12, 2018, 22:35:50
As far as I know we have only ever had one other DoF ever and that was Sherwood.

We had a sporting director I think a couple of years back who became Academy Director...Seamus Brady, is that who you thought it was?

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=56223.0
That's the badger


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 14, 2018, 10:48:36
From todays adver...

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SWINDON Town manager Richie Wellens feels Paul Jewell’s appointment as director of football at the club this week can help lighten the load on his shoulders.

Former Premier League manager Jewell’s arrival at the club was announced on Tuesday morning, resuming a partnership alongside Wellens that began at Oldham Athletic last season.

Back at Boundary Park, Jewell served as Wellens’ assistant manager, but his remit at Town will be away from the training pitch and instead focussed on player recruitment.

Wellens says the volume of prospective signings lower league managers have to appraise can be overwhelming.

Therefore, the Town boss hopes that with someone of Jewell’s experience now casting an eye, potential transfer targets will be vetted more thoroughly and a higher calibre of player brought in.

“Dealing with agents and dealing with player recruitment is quite tough on a manager at times because you get agents emailing you to send videos and making phone calls every single day,” said Wellens.

“There’s that many of them that sometimes it can drain you.

“Paul can dilute the ones that are wasting our time, so that the ones that are serious and the ones that are of a good enough quality to get in, we can then go and have a look at them.

“Paul has obviously got a lot of experience in the game and his eye for a player is very good.

“He has got a lot of contacts in the game, so I will basically put the agents on to him.

“He is someone that I trust and someone I am looking forward to bringing some good players to the club.

“Paul is from Bradford, so within an hour-and-a-half radius, there is a hell of a lot of clubs and a hell of a lot of players.

“He can cover up there and Ben Chorley (chief scout) can do down here. They can liaise with each other and we can come to a conclusion about what we want to get in.”

Wellens and Jewell’s previous working relationship was a brief one, with the latter opting to leave his position at Oldham after only six weeks at the club.

Town boss Wellens feels the role Jewell will now hold at the Energy Check County Ground will suit him much better and hopes that can bear fruit with quality player acquisitions.

“I didn’t really work with him for that long,” said Wellens.

“He came in at Oldham as assistant manager, but under the circumstances – lack of facilities, lack of organisation and lack of everything, really – he got frustrated and it didn’t really work out as I wanted it to.

“I understood where he was coming from and I ended up going the rest of the season without an assistant manager.

“He has come here in a different role this time and one that he should enjoy.”


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Ardiles on Friday, December 14, 2018, 11:10:43
Like the sound of that.  Sounds reasonable.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 14, 2018, 11:19:31
Is the Ben Chorley our Chief Scout, the same Ben Chorley who was a centre half knocking about in our leagues? If so, if we get short and all that?

BTW what happened to the Irish guy, not Brady (although what happened to him as well), the guy who came over from Waterford with some grand title in the Power regime?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 14, 2018, 11:20:21
Like the sound of that.  Sounds reasonable.
Absolutely.

He keeps going back to quotes like these...

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“I didn’t really work with him for that long,” said Wellens.

“He came in at Oldham as assistant manager, but under the circumstances – lack of facilities, lack of organisation and lack of everything, really – he got frustrated and it didn’t really work out as I wanted it to.

“I understood where he was coming from and I ended up going the rest of the season without an assistant manager.

“He has come here in a different role this time and one that he should enjoy.”

Suggesting that there were many many problems at Oldham off the pitch (and with the pitch too!), something he seems far more happy about with Swindon.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 14, 2018, 11:22:26
Is the Ben Chorley our Chief Scout, the same Ben Chorley who was a centre half knocking about in our leagues? If so, if we get short and all that?
It is indeed the very same massive centre back.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: theakston2k on Friday, December 14, 2018, 11:22:53
Is the Ben Chorley our Chief Scout, the same Ben Chorley who was a centre half knocking about in our leagues? If so, if we get short and all that?

BTW what happened to the Irish guy, not Brady (although what happened to him as well), the guy who came over from Waterford with some grand title in the Power regime?
Pat Fenlon? He's general manager at Linfield now.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Friday, December 14, 2018, 11:24:45
Pat Fenlon? He's general manager at Linfield now.
Thats him, he arrived and disappeared within a few months it seems.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, December 14, 2018, 11:42:43
He was never on the staff here - was on Power's payroll as a general football advisor I believe, looking at other clubs and opportunities.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Flashheart on Friday, December 14, 2018, 11:49:38
Some were adamant he was going to be appointed manager here, some were even kicking off about it.

We appointed Brown instead. Maybe we should have tried Fenlon after all? (he says, with hindsight)


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, December 14, 2018, 12:07:31
Some were adamant he was going to be appointed manager here, some were even kicking off about it.

We appointed Brown instead. Maybe we should have tried Fenlon after all? (he says, with hindsight)

Rob T was a Fenlon man.... even when it was pointed out he'd reached 50 odd, and never played or managed a game in England, which probably wasn't the job spec required for Div 4.

Brown was a credible pick in the circumstances... ok it didn't work out, but managerial success isn't easy to find, by definition more will fail than succeed.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, December 14, 2018, 12:32:15
Some were adamant he was going to be appointed manager here, some were even kicking off about it.

We appointed Brown instead. Maybe we should have tried Fenlon after all? (he says, with hindsight)

Garry O'Connor would not agree... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25754630


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Costanza on Friday, December 14, 2018, 18:11:20
Garry O'Connor would not agree... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25754630

Judging by the below quote...

Quote
He blames the Irishman, for the in May 2012.

...the BBC and an anti-Fenlon agenda.  :)

Fenlon’s Linkedin suggests that he was only consulting Power for six months.

I was one of the ‘Fenlon to Swindon’ assumers, it made sense. Jewell is a part of the Power universe so it was plausible.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: RobertT on Friday, December 14, 2018, 19:25:17
Rob T was a Fenlon man.... even when it was pointed out he'd reached 50 odd, and never played or managed a game in England, which probably wasn't the job spec required for Div 4.

Brown was a credible pick in the circumstances... ok it didn't work out, but managerial success isn't easy to find, by definition more will fail than succeed.

Yep, but then I didn't fancy Brown.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: tans on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 10:18:06
Shirtliff gone due to family reasons.

Tommy Wright added to backroom staff


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 10:35:36
Shirtliff gone due to family reasons.

Tommy Wright added to backroom staff
Facebook group will go into meltdown....

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/28/how-barnsley-assistant-manager-tommy-wright-took-5k-bung-to-help/amp/


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 10:36:29

Tommy Wright added to backroom staff

Interesting background
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37508193


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 10:36:48
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Peter leaves due to personal reasons with the club asking fans to respect his privacy at this time.

Hope all is well.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Waffle on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:23:54

Shame but hope he and family are okay.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Waffle on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:24:26
Shirtliff gone due to family reasons.

Tommy Wright added to backroom staff

Much known on Wright? Seems lacking since the scandal?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:30:39
That scandal was odd. Daily naming and shaming which ended as soon as Allardyce resigned from England.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:32:18
Much known on Wright? Seems lacking since the scandal?
Was at Carlisle as assistant to Curle last season.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:43:50
Wright is due in court in October according to this.

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/17385653.carlisle-utds-tommy-wright-faces-bribery-trial-in-october-after-latest-court-hearing/


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:49:34
Seems to have hit him hard!


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:50:14
Wright is due in court in October according to this.

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/17385653.carlisle-utds-tommy-wright-faces-bribery-trial-in-october-after-latest-court-hearing/

That was last year.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: stfcjack on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:50:47
I've just seen that someone on 'that' fb group has said that Brown was on talksport this morning claiming he was in court yesterday claiming unpaid money to him during his time here. As you can imagine they have reacted in a rationale manner.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 11:54:39
That was last year.

And bizarrely since he pleaded not guilty back end of last summer the whole thing seems to be entirely silent? Reporting restrictions?   :hmmm:


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:03:48
That was last year.

Are you sure? He only joined Carlisle in summer 2018 and this story was written in January 2019


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:10:19
And bizarrely since he pleaded not guilty back end of last summer the whole thing seems to be entirely silent? Reporting restrictions?   :hmmm:
Yeah there isn't much online about it, last thing was a report from September last year saying he was in court in October of last year, then nothing.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:11:06
from wiki: However, a criminal investigation was launched into Tommy Wright. He pleaded not guilty at a court hearing in September 2018 [17] and a trial has been scheduled for October 2019.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_English_football_scandal


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:11:45
Yeah there isn't much online about it, last thing was a report from September last year saying he was in court in October of last year, then nothing.

Would make more sense if it were October this year, as the post above yours?


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:12:35
he's on a months rolling contract then :)


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:13:04
And Monday 7th October is this year.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:13:22
Are you sure? He only joined Carlisle in summer 2018 and this story was written in January 2019

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/sep/24/tommy-wright-barnsley-and-two-others-plead-not-guilty-bribery

That was dated Sept 2018, in that it says hes in court on October 22nd that year.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:15:07
Could just be a short term appointment then if that is the case.

He MAY be innocent :)


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Trashbat? on Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 12:15:31
The end of the article ends ..

Wright is expected to be with United as normal for tomorrow's League Two game at Port Vale.

Carlisle played Port Vale away 26th January this year, so I am guessing he is just unlucky with October court appearances.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Trashbat? on Thursday, July 11, 2019, 18:40:17
I've just seen that someone on 'that' fb group has said that Brown was on talksport this morning claiming he was in court yesterday claiming unpaid money to him during his time here. As you can imagine they have reacted in a rationale manner.

Allardyce was on talksport this morning and the subject of Phil Brown came up. He mentioned the owners of Swindon and Southend having apparently gone back on contractual promises and strung Brown along, I am not quite sure what that is supposed to mean.

However I did wonder if there is unpaid money due to Brown, perhaps he signed some sort of non-disclosure act on his compromise agreement and if he can't keep his mouth shut he may have broken it.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, July 11, 2019, 21:04:26
Allardyce was on talksport this morning and the subject of Phil Brown came up. He mentioned the owners of Swindon and Southend having apparently gone back on contractual promises and strung Brown along, I am not quite sure what that is supposed to mean.

However I did wonder if there is unpaid money due to Brown, perhaps he signed some sort of non-disclosure act on his compromise agreement and if he can't keep his mouth shut he may have broken it.
Wouldn't be surprised if he thinks he's owed 18 months pay as it was reported he signed a 2 year deal where as we are arguing it was rolling contract so he was only due 6 months.


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: tans on Thursday, July 11, 2019, 21:10:21
Nobody gives a shit what Sam Allardyce says.

Looks like the kind of bloke that would eat a bag of crisps while having a shit.



Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: Sippo on Friday, July 12, 2019, 06:47:38
Looks like the kind of bloke that would eat a bag of crisps while having a shit.



Is that not normal then...?!


Title: Re: Paul Jewell appointed DOF
Post by: pauld on Friday, July 12, 2019, 09:00:26
Is that not normal then...?!
Think it's OK as long as you put the crisps down for the wiping phase, but I'm no expert on etiquette