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Title: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, August 6, 2018, 08:58:27
Worried about him and have been for a while now. I know some of you would hate the alternative of LM in goal but there is no way he is not going to cost us more goals and is a red card screaming to happen.

His head seems gone to me, the way he was reacted to his own mistakes. I was sat behind the dugout and he was constantly being talked through the game Saturday. Real shame as he was one hell of a prospect but needs to move on for his own good imo


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: 4D on Monday, August 6, 2018, 09:00:17
One game?


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, August 6, 2018, 09:18:17
One game?
No, of course not one game ffs. He has been here nearly 3 years now


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Benzel on Monday, August 6, 2018, 09:19:53
He'll be fine.

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Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 6, 2018, 09:22:14
If you take away the mistake and wobbly bit after he was fine.

obviously he can't be doing that every game.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, August 6, 2018, 09:22:20
I hope so. This isn't a dig at him at him at all just what i have seen over the last few months when he has played in a Town shirt.


Title: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 6, 2018, 09:26:26
he's not without fault, that's for sure.

I don't want to go over the LM stuff again, but the thought of him being #1 fills me with dread. hence my LV views may be a bit biased!


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: DV Canio on Monday, August 6, 2018, 09:36:03
He’s not played at ‘our’ standard for a while now, harsh to judge one game in.

Can’t be making mistakes like that every game


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: RedRag on Monday, August 6, 2018, 09:52:08
Vigs will of course need to cut down on the mistakes.  His post mistake wobble though understandable was a little concerning.  Especially as his allround game was otherwise excellent.  It was his swift long clearance "assist" that led to the clattering and near goal for Anderson in the first half.  

I have little confidence in the alternatives.  There must be a reason why WH has not been no. 2 keeper for some while but I've not attended any actual matches that indicated that LM or RCC were any better than WH even.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: donkey on Monday, August 6, 2018, 10:18:09
Well, Foderingham is third choice at Rangers now...


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, August 6, 2018, 10:25:41
He just needs to 'grow up' a bit and concentrate more on his game and less on the opposition fans.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Monday, August 6, 2018, 10:29:26
That probably sums it up best. I do get it is the first game but this does go back to before Waterford as well . He was poor before he left. I just worry that if his for does not return then we are not left with great alternatives which last season were as costly as playing Chris Robertson


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: mystical_goat on Monday, August 6, 2018, 10:36:52
I know there is a lot of fuss around McCormack, and fans are understandably divided on the ethics of it all, but he is a good goalkeeper.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 6, 2018, 10:42:41
I know there is a lot of fuss around McCormack, and fans are understandably divided on the ethics of it all, but he is a good goalkeeper.
Plymouth fans I spoke to also said the same, not sure if a lot of Town fans will ever accept him even if he came in and was star man all season TBH.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, August 6, 2018, 10:43:55
We'll, Foderingham is third choice at Rangers now...

Will be out the door by the weekend.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 6, 2018, 10:52:32
Will be out the door by the weekend.
Stoke when they sell Butland off.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Sippo on Monday, August 6, 2018, 11:03:09
Stoke when they sell Butland off.

That's what I reckon. Butland to Chelsea?


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 6, 2018, 11:23:36
That's what I reckon. Butland to Chelsea?
After watching the Charity Shield I would say Man City! but yes if Courois leaves that will make a domino effect in the transfer market I think.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: mystical_goat on Monday, August 6, 2018, 11:30:25
not sure if a lot of Town fans will ever accept him even if he came in and was star man all season TBH.

Same for all the other clubs he's played for then?


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 6, 2018, 11:31:25
Same for all the other clubs he's played for then?
I imagine it is, yes.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, August 6, 2018, 11:32:05
I know there is a lot of fuss around McCormack, and fans are understandably divided on the ethics of it all, but he is a good goalkeeper.

I think this is the point. Did Oxford fans have a similar reaction when you signed him, and did they get over it?


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: mystical_goat on Monday, August 6, 2018, 11:34:29
I think this is the point. Did Oxford fans have a similar reaction when you signed him, and did they get over it?

Yes and yes/no. It's the same everywhere.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 6, 2018, 11:40:22
Yes and yes/no. It's the same everywhere.
Understandably so, Nile Ranger is a little like that (although in some ways worse, certainly more consistantly a twat), good player but a fucking liability off the pitch and hated by many.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 6, 2018, 12:15:53
 One thing for sure, is that LV will get a thorough examination of his mental strength at Sincil Bank.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 6, 2018, 12:18:52
One thing for sure, is that LV will get a thorough examination of his mental strength at Sincil Bank.
Yes RCC took an absolute battering last season, especially from Rhead who is a lump of a thug.

On the goalkeeper thread, apparently Vickers, the Lincoln goalie was man of the match against Northampton, Cobblers having 15 shots to Lincolns 4, with 8 on target for them.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: bamboonoshop on Monday, August 6, 2018, 12:39:59
One thing for sure, is that LV will get a thorough examination of his mental strength at Sincil Bank.

He will and any mental strength issues he has in goal, he will have to sort out quickly. A consistency like that on a regular basis and McCormick will be No.1.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Private Fraser on Monday, August 6, 2018, 13:35:38
Yes RCC took an absolute battering last season, especially from Rhead who is a lump of a thug.

On the goalkeeper thread, apparently Vickers, the Lincoln goalie was man of the match against Northampton, Cobblers having 15 shots to Lincolns 4, with 8 on target for them.

I was at the game.  It wasn't just the [usual] physical stuff dished out by Rhead.  There was also a lot of verbals and gestures he aimed at RCC, mostly after the incident where Rhead hassled RCC, preventing him from making a clearance kick - for which
the weak referee penalised RCC for time wasting ang gave Lincoln a free kick inside our area. Rhead's antics that day were particularly shitty.  If he gets game time on Saturday and adopts similar tactics, I'm not sure that LV is 'smart' enough to ignore it.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: swindonmaniac on Monday, August 6, 2018, 16:35:51
He’s not played at ‘our’ standard for a while now, harsh to judge one game in.

Can’t be making mistakes like that every game
Happened too many times,   does make some good saves, but I'm not a Vigouroux fan.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: RobertT on Monday, August 6, 2018, 16:52:34
Vig impressed me in so far as he seemed more confident for 50 minutes or so in claiming things.  He fell to pieces after the mistake though, lost control of the box, his kicking was awful, for about 20 minutes or so.  That worries me more than the mistake itself.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Posh Red on Monday, August 6, 2018, 20:33:38
Vig impressed me in so far as he seemed more confident for 50 minutes or so in claiming things.  He fell to pieces after the mistake though, lost control of the box, his kicking was awful, for about 20 minutes or so.  That worries me more than the mistake itself.

He does seem to be quite a volatile character, which isn't always the best attribute for a keeper.

The thing is he has the ability to be at a much higher level, those character flaws are the reason he's playing in League 2


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, August 6, 2018, 21:30:49
Im sure that McCormick has been brought in to be number 1 at some point this season. He's too good a keeper to be a bench warmer surely?

Vigouroux has one season left on his contract. Sold before the end of the window? Or perhaps in the winter window? We'll see.



Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, August 6, 2018, 21:51:42
Im sure that McCormick has been brought in to be number 1 at some point this season. He's too good a keeper to be a bench warmer surely?

Vigouroux has one season left on his contract. Sold before the end of the window? Or perhaps in the winter window? We'll see.


He was 2nd choice at Plymouth before he left and seem to remember there were concerns a shoulder injury would allow him to play on regular basis. He's coming to the end of his career so can see him just being 2nd choice. Need to judge Vigs over a run of games, chopping and changing keepers last season was a shambles.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: bamboonoshop on Monday, August 6, 2018, 22:06:04
Im sure that McCormick has been brought in to be number 1 at some point this season. He's too good a keeper to be a bench warmer surely?

Vigouroux has one season left on his contract. Sold before the end of the window? Or perhaps in the winter window? We'll see.



Totally agree. If Vigs can't get his mental game right then McCormick WILL step in. We know Vigs is a decent keeper in ability and can be good enough to step up. However his issues lie in his mental game. If he'd tracked back towards his goal line after passing to the Silks player then he may have had an opportunity to save. He got caught in two minds and went half toward the player, while the player assessed his options (an easy lob with plenty of distance between keeper and goal). Had Vigs tracked back to his 6yrd box, the Macclesfield player may have been forced to take an early shot and the option to lob, gone.

I like Vigs and want him to do well but if McCormick is needed, PB WILL make use of him, and rightly so.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, August 23, 2018, 10:09:46
Re watched the whole game from Crawley last night. He was superb,kicking and catching was spot on.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: sir windon on Thursday, August 23, 2018, 16:30:18
Surely we can’t win with Vigs. If he has a dip in form and concedes (even more!) goals we’re buggered, if he plays well he’ll be sold in January?


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Thursday, August 23, 2018, 16:37:49
I’d imagine the market for any L2 keeper is fairly limited. I reckon he’ll sign a new contract.


Title: Re: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Benzel on Friday, August 24, 2018, 17:34:27
Re watched the whole game from Crawley last night. He was superb,kicking and catching was spot on.
He's always been excellent at claiming corners and crosses. He was brilliant on Tuesday.

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Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 00:24:01
He's always been excellent at claiming corners and crosses. He was brilliant on Tuesday.

Sent from my SM-G930F

As an alternative opinion, he was variable at best on crosses when he first came here. He was fantastic against crawley though, def stepped up on that aspect.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 17:19:23
Called up by Chile


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 17:21:18
Fair play to the guy.



Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Sir red ken on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 18:48:21
Called up by Chile
That will help push his price up. Worth a six figure sum in the January transfer window.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Legends-Lounge on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 19:19:40
That will help push his price up. Worth a six figure sum in the January transfer window.

That should cheer Reg up. 😂😂😂


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: theakston2k on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 19:35:17
Chile are a relatively big footballing nation and current copa America champions so quite a big achievement.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Sir red ken on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 19:40:03
Chile are a relatively big footballing nation and current copa America champions so quite a big achievement.
70k up front Jan 2019. I thought we see him leave on a free Feb of this year.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: suttonred on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 19:45:50
He's playing well, and that on top should really boost his confidence


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: bamboonoshop on Saturday, August 25, 2018, 19:53:39
I'm genuinely pleased for any L2 player (especially a Town one) that can receive a call up to a fairly decent International side. All good experience. Vigs is a confidence player, and I actually think PB can control any sense of 'over inflated ego' that could arise from this.

Well done Vigs.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 10:39:58
Be interesting to see just how much attendances are hit as all the McCormick boycotters will have to put their boycott where their hyperbole is?


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 10:46:16
who are these people. I've only seen one person on here even contemplate not going


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Berniman on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 10:48:19
It will knock less than a 100 off of the attendance I would expect.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 10:55:16
who are these people. I've only seen one person on here even contemplate not going

Reg and one other i seem to remember.

99% won’t give a shit, it won’t be an issue at all


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 11:24:37
Reg and one other i seem to remember.

99% won’t give a shit, it won’t be an issue at all

I think a fair few of us said we'd go but not acknowledge him. Which will have zero impact to anyone but ourselves. Don't recall many boycotters, could be wrong.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 11:29:01
I refuse to watch Saturdays game now because of him playing.

The fact that I am unable to watch as I am up in Swindon for a family get together is neither here nor there!


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 11:35:08
That's annoying timing for you, would you have made it to the game were it a home fixture?


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 11:47:11
Be interesting to see just how much attendances are hit as all the McCormick boycotters will have to put their boycott where their hyperbole is?

Presumably you can make the Morecambe game  :hmmm:    I had thought about going but shelved the plan.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Private Fraser on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 11:51:20
  I had thought about going but shelved the plan.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

... anyway, it looks like LV could have picked a better time to be in Japan:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45406857


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 12:00:14
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

... anyway, it looks like LV could have picked a better time to be in Japan:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45406857

 Given Vigs' shaky disposition, we'll have to hope that the Chile international break, doesn't mess with his head Yaser style.

This international break is ludicrous... it's not like there's a Euro qualifying campaign or owt.... just starting to bed in the season after the  WC.... and they down tools for a bunch of friendlies.  Mad.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 12:02:23
That's annoying timing for you, would you have made it to the game were it a home fixture?
Unfortunately for me yes, I was hoping it would tie in with a home game.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 12:06:04
Presumably you can make the Morecambe game  :hmmm:    I had thought about going but shelved the plan.

Nope it coincides with my mothers funeral in south wales so a long train journey beckons....


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 12:09:48
Unfortunately for me yes, I was hoping it would tie in with a home game.

That's a shame, Saturday will be the only game, bar the trophy, I'll have missed this season so far, I'll see if I can offer your update service as I'll be watching on ifollow.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 12:11:52
 Chalkies seems to not only be boycotting matches but also the TEF.  A shame.... one is one too many.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Family at War on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 13:10:06
Thought that was the idea of this to have a UEFA league and help International football to progress. Each league will have Promotion and Relegation and hopefully stop a lot of meaningless friendly games.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 14:53:18
Thought that was the idea of this to have a UEFA league and help International football to progress. Each league will have Promotion and Relegation and hopefully stop a lot of meaningless friendly games.

Yes.... but it's bollocks. Just UEFA trying to milk the cash cow.... Blatter taught Platini everything he knows.

I don't think you'd find too many fans of Prem and Championship clubs, who would rather see England v Switzerland in a friendly, this weekend.

PS, the game v the cuckoo clock makers may not be this weekend... but it's why the time is football free.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Family at War on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 16:32:29
I like the Cuckoo Clock maker on the repair shop, comes from Witney.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 16:43:34
I like the Cuckoo Clock maker on the repair shop, comes from Witney.

By way of nothing in particular.... back in the spring I was up on Dragon Hill, Uffington and got chatting to a Spanish organic farm worker... he had with him a stunning beauty from London, English girl, mixed race.

Earlier I'd heard a cuckoo in the nearby copse... now cuckoos, along with many birds have become a rarity, I asked had they heard it?  Lass says... what sound does it make?

Didn't now what to say... made me a bit sad... apparently Spanish for cuckoo is cu cu.


O blithe New-comer! I have heard,
I hear thee and rejoice.
O Cuckoo! shall I call thee Bird,
Or but a wandering Voice?

While I am lying on the grass
Thy twofold shout I hear;
From hill to hill it seems to pass,
At once far off, and near.

Though babbling only to the Vale
Of sunshine and of flowers,
Thou bringest unto me a tale
Of visionary hours.

Thrice welcome, darling of the Spring!
Even yet thou art to me
No bird, but an invisible thing,
A voice, a mystery;

The same whom in my school-boy days
I listened to; that Cry
Which made me look a thousand ways
In bush, and tree, and sky.

To seek thee did I often rove
Through woods and on the green;
And thou wert still a hope, a love;
Still longed for, never seen.

And I can listen to thee yet;
Can lie upon the plain
And listen, till I do beget
That golden time again.

O blessèd Bird! the earth we pace
Again appears to be
An unsubstantial, faery place;
That is fit home for Thee!




Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Family at War on Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 17:51:44
Wordsworth at his best!


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Red Frog on Sunday, September 9, 2018, 23:02:01
Our soapy tit wank* has gone a very long way for not very much so far.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/sg/news/japan-v-chile-cancelled-after-earthquake-strikes-hokkaido?_format=amp

Perhaps he’ll at least warm a bench vs S Korea tomorrow.

*Edit: Sod it. That can stay as Lawrence’s new nickname.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: bamboonoshop on Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 12:34:25
On the bench v South Korea, currently 0-0 after 40mins.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: bamboonoshop on Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 13:01:59
2nd Half, Vigs not used as yet (0-0).


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: bamboonoshop on Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 13:46:36
Almost FT. No game time for Vigs but an experience and a nice late Summer/early Autumn holiday to Japan & Korea for him. Hope he took some nice photos. FT (0-0).


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Honest Lee on Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 15:26:14

Looks like he will be bench warming again on Saturday if there is another clean sheet tonight.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 15:34:52
Interesting to see that of the 3 keepers in the squad Gabriel Arias (30) Brayan Cortés (23) and Lawrence Vigouroux (24) they have amassed a total of 3 caps between them, looks like they are revamping the GK situation so a perfect time for Vigs to stake his claim for a slot.


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 18:54:25
Until Claudio Bravos Achilles gets better, at least


Title: Re: Lawrence Vigouroux
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, September 11, 2018, 19:18:53
He's been train with the likes of Arturo Vidal, will have been a pretty good experience I'd imagine.