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Saw some neighbours of ours Sunday evening using a pellet rifle, fine I thought although don't see what the pleasure is in it myself, but then I noticed the father was taking it in turns shooting at things in the garden with the 2 kids, they aren't anymore that about 13/14, then the kids mates arrived and they joined in with the shooting as well.  And the mother was standing can;s etc back up once they had been shot down.

With all the gun crime you hear about these day's I think encouraging young kids to use a gun is iresponsible even if it is a pellet gun, you never know if the kids enjoy it and find it fun it may encourange them later in life to play with a real gun.

Oh come on, it's not that bad.

At 13 I was using my Dad's 12-bore, it didn't turn me into a gun-toting lunatic (yet).

Fuck me p2p, kids are allowed to have a bit of fun and they where being supervised where they not?

My little girl (4 yrs old) has one of those bow and arrow things that fire those red darts with the sucker on the end. I must be encouraging her to go on a rampage with a crossbow, what a terrible father I am.

haha what a load of pc bullshit.

I used an air pistol long before I was 13 or 14.  I haven't gunned anyone down. Yet.

My Godsons were shooting some pellets with there grampy a few weeks ago - he was teaching them safe and responsible use so I dont really see a problem with it.

I think stopping kids even having toy guns and that sort of thing may make them seem even more desirable to someone that wanted to do real damage and break rules

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surely it's encouraging to see the parents with the kids helping them learn how to use it properly.

i mean when they turn 18/19 imagine if the old lady they're trying to mug has a gun pointed at her by these neigbours of yours. one goes to pull the trigger and misses and hits the poor inocent shopper in the back ground?!

At least this way their parents are teaching them to aim the gun properly and only hit the intended target.
Good parenting i say

Yeh, hitting the poor innocent shopper is much much worse than hitting the old lady they're mugging...

(I do agree with your stance, just a dodgy argument that's all!)

Methinks you've just been whoooshed.

  :doh:

Congratulations on the funniest post I've read in a while p2p.

i think it's anything but irresponsible to be honest. irresponsible would be giving them an airgun and letting them use it unsupervised wherever they felt like...

Oops

I suppose I see your points maybe I am being ott but I just don't agree that kids that sort of age should be using guns even if it is only a pellet gun, I'm not one that says kids shouldn't play with toy guns that is just pc gone mad I think, but I also see what the kids are like in this instance and the parents and it just makes me think.

Each to their own though obviously.

When I was that age my mates and I were always messing around with bb guns etc. I wouldnt know where to get a real gun but I would love one. It was all downhill after I owned a supersoaker

Is it any different to them playing a "shooting" game on a PC or console ?

there was a lad in my school who shot guns when he was young.

micheal ryan.

the hungerford geezer?

There were approx 20 boys in my school who shot guns, including me and none of us turned into Michal Ryan. There are over 150,000 registered firearms owners in the UK and none of them turned into Michael Ryan.

Your argument could stand for anything and anyone.

My step-mum is a relation of Ryan apparently.

I'm sure there was a "whoosh" smiley thingie somewhere

 :) it wasnt an arguement, just a fact.

a friend of mine as been ill in hospital and although I'm used to parents unable, or unwilling to control their children.  I was agog at childrens behaviour in the wards. 

To be fair, the parents concerned didn't know how to conduct themselves so what chance the children?

Thomas Hamilton did.

Is this perhaps a case that it's more the people than the behaviour you're tutting at? This bit makes me think there's some prior history here and it's more a case that you don't trust these kids/parents to behave responsibly with guns (or anything much). Would you feel the same way if it was the local vicar showing his kids how to shoot at cans?

I think we are forgetting the innocent victims in this sorry story, what have the Cans ever done to deserve being shot at?

Two things link me to that day:  I was a member of the same gun club as him (tunnel club in Devizes) and was in Hungerford when it happened.

If there was anything good to come out of that day it was a change in policy that allowed the Police to shoot a suspect who had previously killed and was deemed likely to continue killing even if he didn't pose an immediate threat... ie. we could shoot him in the back if we considered he was still intent on killing...

With regard to supervised use of guns... if they learn the dangers and the consequences they are less likely to consider the gun a toy and are more likely to avoid situations that require one

P2P was scared that he is gonna get a cap popped in his ass !!!

So, shoot them and inflict a minor flesh wound early doors then?

Something like that :D

I for one welcome our new younger overlords.

Me too, although not for very long, 'twas too expensive for me at the time

Very Futurama-y.

When I was 14 I made a crossbow with my mate Mike. We put a target on his dads garage door and fired the bolt (Bernie the Bolt for those who remember) it hit the target, went straight through the garage door and damage his dads car. Class weapon. ................... We were grounded for weeks, it was all part of being a teen as far as I was concerned.
Times have changed since my innocent days or so I believe, I totally understand why any person would be worried about kids using weapons today, or maybe I just dont have those young adventourous thoughts anymore being a miserable old fart.