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first he makes a joke about lorry drivers murdering prostitutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmuobTeI3CA

now he's turned his attention to gordon brown, calling him a "one eyed scottish idiot"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7873624.stm


pretty funny if you ask me. how long till these overreactions stop? its been ridiculous since brand/ross/sachs.

I think they are all pushing the limits to see how far they can go!

I think people really need to learn how to laugh and relax! Is he killing anyone? exactly

and he has a point about Brown, great as a chancelor but awful PM.  Then again many say his leadership of the economy and easy money has led this country into shit, then again many say its caused by teh conservatives depsite them being last in power 1997!

didn't realise gordon brown had lost the sight in one eye

He lost the sight in one eye in a rugby accident when he was a teenager.

To think these isles used to be known as the place with the best sense of humour, lauh at most things.  Now you can't make a light hearted comment about anyone/thing without someone kicking up a fuss.

Fuck that Jan dont let them grind you down. If you want to take the piss carry on whats the worst that can happen

The whole world has gone pc.

Because people allow it to Gazza. If someone is of ethnic origin and also a bit special then surely it is my right to call him a black retard.

First Woolies, now this.

True I really don't care, my Nan was brought up in a generation where if we have curry she still says "smells like a wogs kitchen", its not meant as racist. There is an Asian chap who goes to the dolphin who said "i don't care if someone calls me a paki, thats what I am, I'm from Pakistan" its when someone would use the word in a hateful manner its racist, also a girl wanted her nickname at work to be "chinky" as she was chinese. No malice in it. Depending how its used its a term of endearment or acceptance.

oh jesus don't start this bollocks.

Jeremy Clarkson for PM i say!

The problem is that people use the moan about things being too PC to defend anything from a light hearted comment (which is fair enough), to pretty offensive things like "smells like a wogs kitchen" (which isn't).

This just means people should stop using bullshit meaningless phrases like "PC Brigade" and make the fucking effort to work out for themselves what they find acceptable and what they don't. It's fucking laziness, and anybody who does it is as bad as people who want to arrest you for saying anything "edgy".

So has he said anything that we don't already know!

We currently have an unelected tosser in charge who couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag.

I think the remarks are mild in comparison to what most folks think!    If the mamby pamby, stick it up your arsey PC brigade don't like it TOUGH!

MP's have been complaining? So what they are only in for themselves. Who cares what they say!!

eugh Jeremy Clarkson being "contraversal" again - how dull

he gets on my nerves but I dont expect any boys to agree with me

I agree with you.












No I don't, not even remotely.

I think he's amusing enough as an entertainer. Anybody who thinks he's a some great philosopher and political mind is a bit of a twat, and to be quite honest, a bit thick.

This. I disagree with nearly everything he says but still laugh.

Edit: I need to qualify my disagreement by pointing out he's hit the nail on the head on Brown. Not terribly subtely but there you go.

So Clarkson called him a one eyed Scottish idiot?

Let's look at this in more detail.

gordon Brown is...

Scottish??  Check

One eyed?  Check - apparently so (didn't know this before today)

An idiot?  Check, well most would agree.

I don't really think this could be described as "controversial".

I had a laaaaaaarf there Gazzza old son you sound like your living and working in a Yorkshire village in the 70's!

Do people believe the Tinterweb has given rise to this PC brigade.  I think I was too young to be that offended by anything enough to write a letter pre-Internet.  Except when I was 12 and I had a packet of KP crisps that were soft so I wrote off complaining and they sent me loads of free goodies back.

Pre-Internet you would have to be pretty aggravated and bored to sit down and write a letter of complaint over a quick throw away comment on TV by someone like Jeremy Clarkson though.  I suppose back then the  only correspondence between outraged people was limited to the local PC brigade chapters down the post office, pub and what have you.  Letters sent were replied to and that was that and it would take a canny and rather bored journalist to actually find out x people had wrote about a Clarkson comment and make any sort of story out of it.

Bring back Points of View that'll sort it all out.
 

I agree my little fanta panted one

My little fanta panted one?


Is that a typo Birdy or some sort of new euphemism for a fanny belch?

If it’s the later what is it about Clarkson for PM that makes you pass front wind?

Clarkson = twat !

he does my fucking head in, perm headed soft rock loving honky.

Ginger pubes= Fanta pants. i think

There was me with two volumes of roger's profanisaurus sat in the gentlemans reading room and I didn't get that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMuO-8S_0Wg

Except if it was your mum or dad eh Jan..lets face it if the best Clarkson can do is take the piss out of people its not saying much...maybe not contoversial but like other highly paid wankers...which we pay for in some cases he has to be braught in line when the people who pay him arnt happy.

Ime not in a privelidged position with high earnings and privelidged position like him so i can call him a foul mouthed twat who thinks he is funny...if your moronic yeah hes hilarious,if your not hes a knob.

What the fuck is wrong with this country?

I honestly couldn't give a fuck whether whether some blind cunt is fucking offended by some other cunt calling another cunt a fucking blind cunt. Not forsaking the fact the cunt in question is blind in one cunting eye and the cunt who said it has never been taken seriously in his whole cunting life.

excuse me...

Well some people do give a fuck..and thats why we post it Ironside.

I just hate that 'C' word, your post must be a record of usage!!!

I apologise Dell, I should be more inventive with my choice of profanities next time.  Mix it up a bit.

Profanities will do Ironside!

Good lad, thank the fuck for that!!!

I have to admit I haven't checked out every news source today, but this is an invented story isn't it? More so than normal.

I mean that certain media outlets have run the story with stuff like OUTRAGE, before anybody was really outraged, apart from maybe some bloke from the RNIB; then ran editorials complaining about the PC BRIGADE OUTRAGE, OUTRAGE that they've pretty much just made up.

It's media luvvie outrouge though fb, the poor "right on" morons.

you what now?

Funny though Ironside how many things you dont give a fuck about...then commence many posts on your opinion about it...thats what is good about the forum though eh?..it gives everyone a balanced view.

No one was offended except the RNIB who saw the chance to grab a bit of TV time, courtesey of their media friends. Call me cynical.

8? I certainly hope not.

Fair point...but i dont like him Ironside.

Nah. I think you've got that the wrong way round. More like here's a story where we can cover all angles and make everybody happy; people who don't like clarkson, throw in a rant about the PC Brigade and possibley even make an excuse to have a dig at the BBC.

RNIB dude is the easiest option for the kick-start outrage angle.

It's an easy story that's likely to get people buying and reading. The fact that it's not news, doesn't really matter, and isn't very important is irrelevant in the face of fillable pages

There will be nothing allowed in a couple of years, next it will be people suing for being called a talentless blond bint etc, saying that i cant stand Clarkson hope he gets to drive a C5 as punishment for 10 years.

Point is Sutton its like anything in life,if people are in a privelidged well payed position they are there to be shot down why?...lets look at the Ross fiasco,alot of people myself included thaught it wasnt too serious but as i said at the times how would you feel if that had been your family...Sacs didnt like it and i wouldnt have..heard Des O Connortalking about the modern day presenter and i agree with what he said in as much as he and people like Wogan and Parkinson used to let the guests talk but if you listen to Ross and Clarkson and that bendy faced irishman they do the talking...the guests dont get a word in hedgeways..if you like to watch a presenter who just likes to rant and offend people then watch Clarkson..hes your man,i wouldnt spend my time watching him personally....i dont watch much telly these days because its total drivel most of the time.

But Wogan and Parkinson had two of the most boring programmes on TV.  Comedian/funny presenters are always going to do a lot of the talking, that's the nature of the beast.

Quite - it's a load of manufactured outrage bollocks. That said, Clarkson is a tit and deserves everything he gets - I hope the blind get a posse together and hunt him down with packs of feral guide dogs

I like Clarkson. And I like tits. Coincidence?

If Prince Harry can get away with it........then i reckon its a free for all.

I just find Ross boorish now.  You're right...he's trying to be the main event, and when you've got someone like Tom Jones on the couch, that's not on.  Who would you rather listen to?

And what was all that bollocks last night when Ross was going on about wanting to see Tom Jones naked?  Was there anyone, anywhere who found it funny?  The saddest part was he'd prepared the gag beforehand.  Time someone else was given a shot in my view.

Clarkson, Brand, Prince Harry, STFC Gazza's nan, Ironside??

I think I prefer Ross's have a laugh with the guest and entertain approach. I think the guests on such shows are rarely interesting enough to take it more seriously, not a dig at current celebrities, on the whole I doubt they were better a decade or two ago either.

the bbc should be abolished.the inflated wages they pay presenters, and the overspend they get away with due to the poll tax we pay them is a disgrace.

tv would be even shitter though. the bbc is ace.

why? it could be funded by other means

Such as? Advertising? Not sure myself, have you seen the quality ITV C4 and C5 put out!

i like the idea of the bbc.but they seem to waste money because they know it's coming in guaranteed.also the aggressive nature of tv licencing is a joke too

The BBC is ace. Maybe a more means tested way of paying your tv liscence would be better though. Or scrap the licence fee and make up the funding fully through normal taxation. As long as it didn't cut down though. If anything it should get more money.

To be honest, if I was talking to foreign types I think the BBC is one of the few British things I'd say is awesome.

At the very least it provides a balance to the commercial channels, in both their interests and the shite they churn out. Commercial radio especially is fucking awful.

When the BBC pay a talentless twat like Ross £6m a year to fawn over superstarts while abusing innocent parties then they're always going to be open to challenge.

another thing that i think is wrong,is that even if you do not wish to view bbc channels you still have to pay.how can that be fair?

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If you don't have kids or don't send them to school should you pay for education? Similar thing for the NHS?

Over the however many decades of it's existence, the BBC has been responsible important cultural, educational, entertainment productions.

It's not as essential as Education or Health, and it does make mistakes, but it's still a brilliant public service.

Now why didnt i phrase it like that....if millions of people are paying £100 a year i think its right that idiots like Clarkson are braught to book...though i must admit the beeb do some ace stuff...as Ben points out it does some great stuff,not just on tv,ive been listening to test cricket this week(for my sins)along with the afternoon play on 4 which i can recomend....and not forgeting The Archers.

I have to admit to The Archers being a bit of a guilty pleasure leefer.

Also, if we didn't have the BBC, who would broadcast the Shipping Forecast?

yeah it is ben,i dont despute that.your question about education could raise a good debate too.
anybody could watch and listen to almost everything on the bbc for nothing now due to the internet.my parents and i had a debate on this recently and they said almost the same os you ben on this issue.

Tell you what's even more unfair, paying for channels you want to watch and then having to sit through too many adverts. This is exactly why Sky is a rip off.

If anyone tried to dismantle the BBC, I'd kick them squarely in the bollocks.  I too regret the fact that Jonathan Ross is overpaid, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.  It is a great institution with a noble past and (I hope) a successful future.  Most of us would miss it terribly if it were gone.

I think in the rapidly changing world of media, Auntie has probably had her day...I'd fully expect to see her go within say 10 years.

If the BBC became defunct then we could send Clarkson out in a leaky dinghy in the middle of the Atlantic to do the shipping forecast !?

I think in the rapidly changing world of media it still has a pretty important roll to play, they're doing pretty well with the website and stuff like iplayer.

I am rather pessimistic about it's future though. I'm surprised it hasn't been sold off already with the continuing privatisation of stuff over the last couple of decades.

You went to school, now you pay for the next person to do so.

And the beeb is great, I use it everyday without fail and I am happy to pay the licence fee for it.

The licence fee is £139.50. Thats 38p a day. For that you get 6 or 7 tv channels, loads of
radio channels plus all the local ones. Website,  iplayer etc. And no adverts.

I think the BBC is great value. long may it continue.

 

There's a place for public service broadcasting but they need to sort out their news/current affairs coverage big time.

Always amazed me that Thatcher sold off everything in the 80's except the BBC.  The one thing that should of been made to pay its way.

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oh god that went badly

Well said young man

Er....they don't.

Certain elements of he media have determindly presented this contract as the salary that Ross is paid each year despite the BBC clarifying the position on at least 3 occasions that I can remember. From what's been said the £6m is what is paid to Ross's production company / companies to provide the TV and radio shows that he makes for the BBC. That's obviously a bit different from that being his salary.

When getting all worked up about issues like this I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and think about who's whipping the frenzy up and why.

No fucker gave a shit about what Ross and Brand said on Manuel's answer phone for a week or so after broadcast, apart from Manuel and his family. But then the papers picked up on it and fucking madness ensued.

Similarly no-one would have given a shit, or even known, about Clarkson spouting off somewhere on the other side of the world, without the papers deciding it was a story.

And why is it a story. Are tabloid newspaper editors suddenly sensitive souls desperate to avoid giving offence to minority groups? Of course not.

The truth virtually the entire of the privately owned media detests the BBC and wants to see it destroyed. If you're all happy with a future in which all TV is of the quality churned out by ITV or dominated by constantly cycled US imports and the likes of Ibiza Uncovered on Sky then that's not a problem.

But the thought of British TV without the BBC depresses the fucking life out of me.

Well said Lumps. More succintly: FA Cup 4th round replay, Liverpool v Everton.

So do you think he and Brand had the right to do what they did? The medium they used and the number of listeners is irrelevant. What they actually said is on public record and not disputed.

My reply was more to Lumps' general point about the attempt to use a few non-issues with some overpaid twats spouting off to pursue a general vendetta against public service broadcasting

Do you even know what actually went on? Or are you one of the several million readers of the tabloid press that still believe that they phoned this bloke as some sort of practical joke?

I'm fucking sick of people describing this as a "prank call". It was a prearranged interview that Sacks decided to back out of at the last minute leaving two radio presenters hanging talking to a fucking answerphone. I've spouted some really embarrassing bollocks when confronted with an answerphone unexpectedly, and I've never been trying to make a radio show. Yes they then wound each other up so that every attempt they made to phone and apologise was turned into something even more embarrassing, but that's because they're a pair of overgrown kids.

Sacks himself didn't seem that bothered by the whole affair. Fuck knows why the likes of you were so wound up about it.

Witch hunt by the Mail and Express........didnt seem to make too much of a fuss with Prince Harrys comments!!????

I can promise you you're not alone there.

Fuck clarkson, fuck ross, fuck brand and fuck the BBC, the daily mail, itv and the news of the world.

That's a whole lot of fucking. Can you cope at your age?

So was the pre arranged interview about Brand shagging his grand daughter. If so then fair enough Sachs has left himself open. If not then its a different matter.
I repeat my earlier question. Do you think they were right to do it?
 

that wasn't your earlier question.



different questions.

Good point but I'll take an answer to either or both. I'm just a bit intrigued by Lumps comments.