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So trialists + 2. How exciting.

Yay.

Wilson Out! ;) Fitton show some ambition.

Kanuuu

No.


I must be getting old.  Can't stand it when people butcher the English language - and even less so when the perpetrator is a journalist who is, presumably, being paid for his efforts.

any rumours who the championship defender and midfielder are?

Craddock I would say is one and the midfielder is from Reading and more a right winger than midfielder I would hazard a guess at. I hope its a central midfielder though but there has been a fair bit of talk about a right winger at Reading thats been on trial with us.

And the incoming midfielder will add some much-needed steel to an area of the pitch where Swindon have found themselves frequently over-run this season.

Dosnt sound like a right winger to me JJ

Reckon the adver have got it wrong ct

Fair enough.  Wouldnt be the 1st time recently would it.   I wish Richard Money had made these new signings earlier.

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1532834,00.html

on the official site .

some kiddy from Reading and a chap called Greer from Donny

remember when signing people used to be exciting?

No tough central midfielder then. Shame...

Totally underwhelmed and uninspired.I see that Greer fits the pattern with many of our signings...injury prone.

Robson Kanu sounds alright.   5 goals from 18 starts for saaafend from the Wing sounds encouraging

Greer must have something about him to have played most of his career at a higher level than L1.  Dosnt seem to have played much of late though. Apparantly good in the air though which is nice

Where you expecting anything more?  We're out of the relegation zone in L1 on goal difference . We've won once in 13 games.  We're not exactly an attractive proposition right now are we?

Should all be eligible to play tomorrow, will be interesting to see if any of them will.

I think Greer will, due to the lack of other options

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Greer


Was fairly good...isnt no more,but hope ime wrong,its easy to slag so ile just wait and hope!
I dont like loan signings full stop.

Now come on - you're being negative.

Just because he hasn't played a first team match in over a year !!

Is Greer the first player to play for us who's scored against Barcelona?

Not yet!

Jusr a guess but maybe Hoddle or McMahon did.

I will try to be positive for once and reserve judgement until I have seen both the loanees play tomorrow.
Shame though as I was hoping for a tough midfielder which has been desperately needed for a long time.

I don't set my expectations high,but was hoping that Wilson might have pulled a few strings.I'll pose one question for
you,Robson-Kanu is here for 1 month,can you see him displacing JPM? If he's here for 3 months,like he was at Southend,
i'd be pleased.

Robson-Kanu in my opinion is a great signing. Will reserve Judgement about Greer but it shakes things up a bit so happy enough.

If he does well and enjoys himself here then I'm sure the option to extend the loan has been discussed. 

Will he dispalce McGovern?   who knows.   Depends how they both play dosnt it.   Maybe he's planning to play McGovern Centrally, although hopefully not.

Isn't Readings loan policy that if the player plays for the first team then Reading pick up the wage bill? If so it's likely Kanu will be playing tomorrow...

I've never even heard of Greer before so I'll reserve judgement until I've seen him play. As for Robson-Kanu, he was mint for Southend earlier in the season and think he'll do very well for us.

I've just checked the Reading site and it seems that Robson-Kanu can play on both wings.
Southend used him primarily on the right.Fair enough guys,i'm warming to the idea as he gives
us options and he seems to have a goal threat about him.

My worry about Greer is about injuries and the lack of game time in the last 2 seasons.If he's
vocal and a hard bastard scottish centre half,then that'll be good.

A tough tackling central midfielder would have been good,but then i'm hard to please.

From what I have gathered from the net about Greer, he is basically a big no frills stopper who is good in the air and reads the game well. Him along side the more pacey Ifil could be a good combo.

And this from a Donny fan on FF:

My worry is that both loans are only one month deals. We have a lot of games in that month I suppose.

And loans can be extended, right?

Hope he is....but i cant fathom what Morrison has done wrong,just begining to find his feet...then left totally in the cold...not great schooling for a youngster.

Its like waiting for a bus.......

(STFC Dave will be pleased).

I disagree.  The worst possible schooling for a youngster is playing in a losing team with no confidence or leadership at all.  Paticually a team that concedes far too many goals when the younsgter in question is a centre back.

-neither of whom have played in the Championship!

Its a fair point

Flippin' eck.

Well done Wilson. Promise kept.

Greer sounds good in theory ... as long as hes fit he should be useful addition.

Robson-Kanu is very handy at this level .. hardworking winger

Still was hoping for central midfielder .. but I guess it means (hopefully) a run in the side for the Rock :)

1 month makes good sense in case they dont work out as well as we had hoped ... Danny never takes them for more than one month at a time usually --- the trialists are a bit different because they are moving here from abroad so need some stability for a few months ...

Onwards and upwards one hopes ... looking forward to Tuesday anyway :)

So when does he play?...if the team is flying he isnt going to get in is he!!

I'm sure I posted this maybe even months back but Morrisons sudden drop off the face of the earth is probably so he doesnt get injured so if bids come in we can sell him this month.

He was one of the better players for the reserves last tuesday so he may still start, who knows.

The signings look ok I suppose, not jump for joy good but then we were never going to get that.

I'd personally say Kanu is more likely to replace McNamee in the team than McGovern.

Dont think I've ever seen Greer play...

Maybe mcnamee will play on the right

Morrison and Ifil together are terrible, its either one or the other with them as they both need an experienced head alongside them.

How anyone can bemoan the fact Wilson hasn't signed a central midfielder yet celebrate the possibility of Pook staying in the first team is beyond me!

He might with injuries and supensions. He's only 17 we shouldnt be relying on him to play all season.  Theres no need to rush him. Assuming he signs a new contract we should be looking at his long term development

He is fookin useless on the right

As opposed to the wizard that is mcgovern. We have nothing going through the middle so maybe macca cutting inside could help

Welcome to Fatburyworld.

If only I could photoshop that onto one of those brown signs that are used to denote tourist attractions right now.......

McGovern is fookin useless on the right too, so we agree there.
Lets hope DW knows what he is doing.

I think we will be shocked what having two attacking wide players could do.

I'd play

STARTING XI

Paynter, Cox
Robson-Kanu, Timlin, Easton, Macca
Kennedy, Greer, Ifil, J. Smith
Brezovan

BENCH

Phil Smith
JP McGovern
Amankwaah
Sturrock
Peacock

Pah, take a punt on the French amateur, he's got a cool name :D

Agree gazza but peacock for easton not my preference just what i think will happen maybe even try vincent

Not sure Vincent is fit though that may be the problem... I'd have Peacock on the bench instead of Pook looking at it.

It's like buses...No signings for ages...then four at once !!!

Id like to see

Brezovan

Smith Ifil Greer Vincent

Robson-Kanu Pook Peacock McNamee

Paynter Cox

Subs Smith Haitian Easton McGovern Razzak

i'd pick mcgovern over macca.

I wonder if the idea is to play JPM on the left with Kanu on the right, surprised there isn't a central midfielder in there though, although I suppose there is still a few days yet, so Wilson may hope to get a few players out the door to get another in, this must leave us with a squad of about 30 players now, a big squad for this level.

I suspect the 2 french players have been signed as much with a view to seeing how they do at L1 level with thoughts for next season if they prove their worth.

 

Seems to be an impossible task, as yet I have not even heard any rumours of any of the dross leaving.

Lots out of contract in the summer so should be able to shift a few out then thanfully.

Doesn't somebody normally end up doing a squad list with contract status around this time?

somebody?somebody?somebo...

Put them in the trade it - free to collector

More to come hopefully...

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/Interview/0,,10341~1533439,00.html

Sorry rich what does it say cant open it mate.

Cheers ben

I am not being negative because i really want good things to happen...BUT for me i cant believe you can put two loan players straight in the team...are they really going to be fit,lets be honest they are coming to Swindon to get fit in all probability...i am extremely dissapointed that the new manager isnt being supported and a few bob found,we should be buying not loaning unfit gambles....we are in real danger of going down   and i dont agree with COLIN TODD about Morrison hes been one of our best players and he should be in the team,age dosnt come into it,hes probably fitter than all the rest.....Greer could be a good player...Kanu could be a good player but IMO could is a word we aint got time for.

Over the years loan players have waltzed into Swindon sides at short notice. Some with success, some without. The window isn't closed yet, we shall see.

On the Lescinel front, I found some quotes stating he had a "controversial" spell at Falkirk... Turns out he went AWOL while playing for them.

but that would be the same with any player we sign. They could be good they might not be.

At least this way we are taking the gamble on players we can send back if they arent any good.

Plus any player that would come to us in a permenant basis probably would do so because he wasnt in the first team at his club, therefore wouldnt be 100% match fit anyway.

Just another reason why the transfer window is a big pile of fucking wank.

I dont see why you think Robson-Kanu is unfit. played 15 games for Southend and for readings reserves since then.

As for greer- no, he's not match fit. he cant be beacuse he hasnt played.  But how much would someone of his decent pedigree cost if they were playing regular 1st team football?   and would he want to join us?  not likley. As I said earlier, we're just outside the league 1 relegation zone, we are not an attractive proposition to experienced good quaility players right now.

To be honest if you are saying that your criteria for singing players right now is that they are match fit and in good form,  of good quality for league 1 AND are willing to join us permanantly on a sensible wage then I'd say you're living in dreamland.


As for Morrison: thats just short termism leefer. You can ruin young lads confidence and stunt his long term development by playing them in a losing team.  And I do agree with you Morrison has been decent most of the time when played.  I'd take a different view with a young talented striker- they can get by playing on instict and natural ability, Defending is more abouit learning and experience which is why most defenders peak later then attackers.

If a player is good enough he should be playing regardless of age.
Unfortunately most of our players are not good enough hence the lack of departures.

Put them on EBay...2 for the price of 1

Respect your opinion TODDY,,,,but my view is that if you look at Huddersfield alot will think theyve taken a gamble...Lee Clarke as manager,theyve just gone out and spent nearly a million on players,,good players,personally i dont think its a gamble for them as i see them pushing on now,they got in a manager and have backed him,weve braught in a good manager so why arnt we backing him....Huddersfield are not loaded but they have gone for it,i know we probably couldnt spend a million but even a quarter of that would have provided us with some ammo.
We need players now not trialists and loanees...next season will be too late i think.
But its been done now and hopefully we can grab 3 points tomorow, ime just very disapointed.

Huddersfield can spend more than us because they are a bigger club than us, pure and simple

Not in my opinion...have they played in the prem?

Have you been drinking? give the players a fricking game before you give such harsh judgement, you have the kind of deluded, head in cuckoo land most of our unrealistic fans have.  We all wanted signings and we have got 4.  Lets see how they do now, just because you have not heard of them does not make them not good enough.

Greer has over 150 games to his name and is held in high regard by Doncaster fans so sounds exactly what we need, also said to be a leader, sounds ideal for me.  The boy Kanu is highly rated at Southend and Reading by supporters so should be another bright spark to boost the team.  The trialists are a gamble but if they do well great if they don't fine, its a no lose situation.

Wilson is also talking of signing more players, he and the board are in a no win situation with people like you who want big money signings and names you can recognise.  Personally I am really looking forward to seeing new players tomorrow and hopefully kick starting our season.

You said it yourself leefer, Huddersfield are gambling with the future of their club by doing what they have. particually with an unproven manager. And loaness and trilaists are players!

I'd be delighted if we signed a few "big money" players and Sir Martyn Arbib said he would pay the fees and underwite their wages. But there has been no idication of that happening so I'm not dissapointed. I wasnt expecting signings to make the whole league sit up and take note, I was expecting a few decent players which I'm optimistic we now have, hopefully with "1 or 2 more to follow"  

Do you really believe we are "bigger" than clubs because we were in the Premiership for one whole season?

It's just as ancient history as Huddersfield winning the top flight 3 times and an FA Cup in the 20's!

Totally agree.

No i dont...so explain why they are bigger than us today...

Oh jesus christ. We have played in the top division ONCE in our entire history. It does NOT make us a big club for this division. Theres a whole multitude of reasons huddersfield are bigger than us -

- The whole 3 league titles in 3 seasons thing
- The fa cups they've won
- They have a much bigger ground than us
- They have a much bigger fanbase than us

They can afford to splash all this cash, pure and simple. We can't. People may be forgetting what such a horrible situation we were in before the takeover. There was just no way possible we can go around spending 500k willy nilly. Even the 250k spent on cox was a massive gamble.

And what happens if for whatever reason huddersfield dont get promoted, or there sugar daddy buggers off? Then there not even back to square one. There in a worse position than they were originally. The way were doing things is the way to do it, especially in this unstable economic climate. It doesn't please everyone, but if people are too short sighted to see why this is being done then fuck 'em. I'd much rather have a steady, financially secure football club, even if it does mean mediocrity in the near future. Because it will lead to success. Look at clubs like doncaster, that is the idal model to follow. I Dont want a boom and bust football club

If your going on the notion that they get bigger crowds thats old hat....Wigan get half the crowds of West Ham...spent twice as much...its all to do with how the club is run obviously.
As for boom and bust weve already had the bust with what weve lost on the gamble that was MM and the shit players he braught here...if you read my post correctly i pointed out that we couldnt spend as big as Huddersfield...but we were all led to believe we would do some spending....you might as well say Newcastle are bigger than Wigan as well...weve won more than than Newcastle in the last 50 years....just cos you gotta bigger ground dosnt make you a bigger club

Oh in my opinion Donny are going down so for me its not what i aspire to be...ther spunky new ground will be half full next season.

Whereas our tired old ground has been half full for about ten years now.

Not having a go or owt, but how insanely short sighted are you. I'd say the boom was around the mid-90's and the bust was when we almost, you know, went bust?

The "bigger" club debate is useless to be honest. Everyone has their own slant on what makes one club bigger than another. This'll turn into an annoying 45 page argument otherwise!

Sarcasm isnt your good point Dave!...ime not saying ware anyware near bust,ime not saying we should spend shit loads..MM spent what little we had thats not DW fault but we do need to spend some if we are to stay up...your the insanely short sighted one if you cant see that,,,,,and while ime on a rant Swindon has a hundred thousand more inhabitants last count than Huddersfield so your fanbase theory do nt stand up,in a nutshell what i am saying is we should match teams ambition like Huddersfield...footballs moved on Good old uddersfield were bigger than us,i would argue we should be on a par with them at least.
Bradford are arguably bigger than us,big crowds etc...i dont want to be playing them next year.
And for the argument Rich if you read back i didnt say we were bigger than Huddersfield.

But i did argue Huddersfield wernt bigger than us...but agreed Rich nuff said i think!

Well to be honest Leefer,fanbase and population aren't exactly the same thing.Huddersfield is traditionally far more a "footballing town" than Swindon,I dont think we would sell 15000 season tickets however much they were

Hudderfield I expect pay shit loads more in wages than we do.

The difference is they have signed players like Pilkington and Ainsworth because they will go there.

Those 2 wouldnt give us a second look. We'd probably only pay them half of what they are on now.

Big Club/Small Club/Medium Club - it doesnt fucking matter. Huddersfield will pay bigger wages and will therefore attract a better quality of player. They have a bloody good back room staff and are up the right end of the table.

We did a similiar thing in the 90s ie spending a fair bit on players and paying decent wages and it didnt do us any good long term

No one in a million years would come to us instead because we played one season in the Premiership

We're a small club. It's time you accepted that.

Huddersfield are getting 13, 14 thousand every home game because they go out and support their team. Too many of our supporters would rather look for excuses to stay away then get behind the team. Until that changes we will not have any success nor we do deserve any.

Had anyone heard of Sam Parkin before he came here? His record at both Wycombe and Northampton were poor, so what works for some players clubs might not work at others. Had you heard of Simon Cox? Michael Reddy? Diagorouga? Jerel Ifil?

No, and they turned out alright. Give these lads a chance, they might do something. Wilson isn;t going to sign any old sh*t, knowing he doesn;t have much money to play with.

Ignoring the whole we're bigger than Huddersfield debate, some good points made.

1. I'm getting bored of people saying we need to to give wilson some money. We don't have any! If you want to do what Huddersfield have done then prepare for another 15 years of shite like the last 15. Short-termism nonsense.

2. The window's not shut yet, so there still might be the more experienced player to come, especially given what DW said about being patient.

3. I don't get the problem with loan players? We've had some very good high-impact loan players, and just because they're here for a month doesn;t mean we can;t extend it or sign them permanently. I think it's a sensible approach.

4. what do people expect? We are at the bottom of league one and have a history of financial problems, why would anyone playing well in the cham[pionship/league one come and join us? We have to build steadily. Kanu sounds like he has a good pedigree, similar to cox's, wilson seems to like greer, which is good enough for me, and one of the other two scored a hat-trick last week - so what's the harm in seeing what he's got?

I'm looking forward to tomorrow night.

I'm fairly chuffed with the signings, obviously done on a tight budget, looking forward to seeing a couple of them perform tomorrow night.

you basically said what I did but in about seven words. good work!

That's what makes you a journo.

spouting sh*t? Pretty much.

I didn't like to say... ;)

i'm confused how anyone thinks getting another defender so that kanyuka doesn't play is a bad thing?
or how robson-kanu will give us a bit of balance to mcnamee on the right?

it's tragic

Just good to inject some new faces. Hope at least 1 of the 4 goes on to be 1st XI.

We havnt had a new first team player since Timlin, and even he wasnt very exciting because we'd had him on loan before.

Easy now bennett.

You used to much logic in that post.

No one said balance i would have macca out wide simply because imo jpm is utter shit. We always have two men marking mcmanamee and do not exploit the spare man and the main reasons for that is no pace . We need players who will make other teams think twice about bombing forward.

Which would equate to balance?

Brilliant fun reading all this. Ive just found out about the new signings/loan players (whatever you want to call them) and im excited about it all. Maybe this will put noses out of joint in the home camp like DW said, lets hope it does and it raises everyones game. Lets face it the competition between the usual crowd is hardly anything ruthless. They all know that they will play again eventually as someone is bound to fuck up.

Like i said im excited with the new faces and cant wait fro tomorrow nights game on the radio. Lets hope Greer tightens the back up, inspires confidence and who knows, maybe commands the rest of our lot into playing to their expected level.

Im going for a 2-0 win.
Im feeling optimistic

Suppose itdoes bangkok

Well he should fit right in with our defence or midfield then as they've been AWOL all season.

Ime going..been going all season...but cant say ime looking forward to it.

We will win tomorow . The players will realise their places and careers are on the line now

Quite.

oh my, did two people nearly agree with me?

i always used to sign robson kanu on fm so he must be good! that is all

Sounds like greer wants to stay longer than his initial 1 month loan! DW see's him as "Captain Material"

And kanu by the sound of it

I get the impression from the Wilson piece that Kanu will be playing instead of MacNameeeee

you're obviously a glass half empty kind of guy leefer. It's a tuesday night, chuff all on TV and we're at home with some new signings. Can't wait...

I take it back, shameless new series starts today!

I dont want to get into "I told you so" mode but.............


Fuck it. yes I do.

Greer and Robson Kanu were 2 of the best players on the pitch last night. Good Signings Danny. Keep the faith.

I'd take them both on long/permanent after last night. Greer looks potentially very solid once he gets match fitness back.

Agree Sutton Red.

Dont think we'll get Robson Kanu permanantly without paying quite a lot for him though

Got to agree..very pleasently suprised...for what its worth and hindsight is good but i wouldve dropped Kanu back for Vincent,seems very happy on that left side.

But Kanu was knacked by about 75 mins, he obviously is not properly match fit, I'd love to see him put in a consistent 90 mins when he is match fit, defences will struggle as he is different to Macca he does not try anything fancy, Kanu kept it simple all night and done well.