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Could be that the prospective new managers have been told that they have to work with Byrne and cannot bring in their own people. This will be a major stumbling block for many good managers who would all want to bring in their own backroom teams.

You would have thought Fitton would have learnt from the last time, as ineffective as Malpas was he should have been afforded the luxury of bringin in his own staff

Welcome back Bart.

Hello Bart.

I'd say it was about getting the right man in and wanting to talk to as many people has possible, this co-inciding with the fact that he is a businessman with things to do and Wray has also been away from the game.

My glass is half-full in this pursuit... You can't bring in the best if they can't bring in their own team. I don't think Byrne is the issue... Williams certainly won't be!

You gonna argue with it then? I havent said it is the case just that it is apossible stumbling block. Challenge you to disagree

I disagree. How'd you like them apples?!

If this is the case then Fitton must be going thru the same list that we have. Ticking off everyone until someone agrees to have Byrne as a right hand bitch.

I truly hope not!! If that is the case, then we have lost some great potential.

Once again Brat, I think you have got it 100% bang on the money.

Well done.

It's a fair point, but as you say I would hope that Fitton would give the option of a new man bringing his own team, if the packages were reasonable and the potential benefits were clear to see.

Why would Fitton continue to be loyal to Byrne of all people?

Why would keeping Byrne (1 person) mean that the new manager couldnt bring in any back room staff?

The majorly critical flaw that we have, is that we don't know the list of candidates... We can pretend that we know, but alas we don't.

Fitton has ensured that no fucker has a clue, we've thrown countless names at him and they've been dismissed - whether it's a bluff or not we don't know. Ward and Holloway were obvious local candidates, but the others? They could literally be anyone.

I don't operate on a system of assuming that there's always a problem at Swindon - given our history it's sometimes forgivable to fear the worse, but I think people are just getting impatient (myself included).

I believe Bart is completely correct.  Its why Ling wouldnt come before.

Meh! I think that's going a bit far.

I think it's fair to say that it won't be, for example(...pulling a name out of thin air totally at random...) Larry David.

Actually..I think I'll put a tenner on him with VC just for the hell of it. That should see him safely installed as the new favourite. I can see the headline on the back of tomorrow's Adver now 8)

Is it?

Ling didnt come here because we didnt offer him a job as far as I remember.

On the basis of what? It's all rumour! We don't know nothing. It could be right, it could be wrong.

Bart has constructed a fair argument and his point is valid, but at the end of the proverbial, it's a mere rumour.

I dont get this why is it taking time lark,I thought Mr Fitton said from the outset that it would take time because he want's to get things right this time,He said it will be before the crewe game,he also mentioned two people are in employment,so i would expect some kind of compensation has to be agreed,and also he stated the formal Interviews dont start until tomorrow.

So i expect he has had other thing's to deal with this week like his other business etc,I dont think anyone can read into it being about having to work with Byrne.

Think you have some brown stuff on the end of your nose!!!

I've been saying it for years, all our troubles will be ended if we appoint a Jewish-American comedian as manager.

If by 'constructed a fair argument' you mean 'made up a load of shit based on no known facts whatsoever', then I agree with you 100%

Look at 80% of the threads on here.

FACT!!

Exactamondo.

Some one pass the 'WHOOSH' emoticon please ::)

I know. I thought I was being rather kind when typing but for Bart that was tolerable.

I don't agree with that Barty Boy. If Fitton is hell bent on getting the right man for the job, which he should be after last time, axeing Byrne so that the new bloke can bring in his own backroom staff is a shame (for Byrne) but business is business.

He's got a rather large investment to protect.

Plus if Mr. Fitton was as desperate as Bart thinks to keep Byrne at the club he'd just made him the bloody manager and be done with it.

Other than that he's spot on ;)

I blame Janet Street Porter.

If she hadnt invented Network 7 and "quick quick telly " we wouldnt expect everything to be resolved in 5 minutes and would be happy to wait.

So, Janet out!

Yes you are right!

I made up that Beardsley was at the De Vere and someone linked it with the Richard Money rumour. Made me laugh my ruddy head off   :soapy tit wank:

Anyone in particular?  A picture would help.

It's the way you link a rumour, which you say is a rumour, to a bold statement implying Fitton is making the same mistake again. Of course that's going to piss people off.

Good work.

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or even

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;)

Could be that STFC Bart likes to hide amongst the racks of children's clothing at Asda. This could really scare any children or young mothers which reach in looking for different sizes.

You'd have thought weirdos like Bart would be banned from populated areas, such fucked up behaviour really shouldn't be allowed.

IMO IT's is taking ages for two reasons: 1. fitton wants the right man and that means eploring every avenue and speaking to every otpion, which takes time and 2. He's spent a lot of time in the states.

I don;t see it as anything more, although if it is Byrne and Byrne stays, then I'll be mightily disappointed. It'll make this appointment as short-sighted as the last one, and I'd like to think we've learnt our lesson.

Time will tell.

I think it's taken so long so Fitton can appoint a good name just before people decide whether to renew their season tickets or not.

Tbf the day malpas went fitton said it would be a quick process

You mean wouldn't, right?

He did. I think he said a few weeks after it's been put back because of the quality of applicants..

No one really knows except the man himself I guess.

No he said would be a quick process and went on to say that people had already been ringing

Bart is wrong, the delay could be down to the fact Fitton has been receiving laser hair removal treatment on his upper lip in readiness for his "change".  New Managers are clearly put off by having to work for an ex-man in the near future and this is also proving a stumbling block for their backroom staff.  You'd have thought Fitton would have learned from the last time when he asked Ling to feel his breasts and see if they were just like the real thing.  While Malpas was ineffective he should have been allowed to manage without having sort Fittons high heel collection during the 1st half of games.

Haha that's exactly what I thought earlier. Maybe he is  ???

Hasn't Fitton also been in the US on business?

Yeah Fitton seems to spend a fair amount of time in the USA in December, remember last year during the takeover talks he kept dashing off to the states.  Must be either business matters, or his mrs insists on doing her Christmas shopping in Macy's.

It's wishful thinking but it's nice to put a positive spin on things when everyone else is moaning!

He can take as long as he likes as far as I am concerned, as long as we don't go down. We're not likely to make the play offs are we? so any appointment is for next seasons really. AF is probably working to the January Transfer window.
In the grand scheme of things, a few weeks with a caretaker mgr will have very little effect on the season. If the new MGr is the right man he will get us mid table any way. The important thing is that we get the right man.
Anyway regardless of that, AF & Co have imho earned the right to run the club as he sees fit as long as he is doing it for the good of the club ------which he is.
This time last year if you remember we were carrying a coffin to the boardroom at the last match with RIP STFC on it ! We had started to think the takeover would never happen, & the senario was very similar with peeps getting real impatient & worried... But AF & CO came through, despite those greedy B*@%$%d's holding out for more.  So I trust the guy to come up with the goods, particularly as it is less serious for us (We won't lose our club) & more serious for him (He's now piut a lot of money in).

The only problem is Phil, if some people are right and our players aren't good enough for league one, if we take too long, the new gaffer won't be able to bring in anyone in time.

Also, crucial run of games coming up in December. I hope we don't lose any. At least Byrne is capable of picking up draws.

I think its taking so long because no one wants to come and manager our shower of shite.

That's why I think the January Transfer window will be in AF's mind.

And what the hell are we going to do with all the deadwood
Casal,Amankwa,Sturrock etc etc

We're going to do nothing. The new guy will assess the situation. Wise brought in and played Monkhouse and Onibuje but when Sturrock came in and within a week they were gone.

As they're on contracts, try and get someone else to take them perhaps ?

Are your posts intended to be rhetorical ?

And that is the question.........................isn't it

Watkins stating that we will keep you posted on the OS must mean that an appointment is not even imminent.

Possibly - or, potentially softening the blow for when a low profile candidate is appointed (for those who think that way)

I think he man has a point. If we can't offload I doubt there will be any permies coming in. But there is always room for loan signings, which aren't transfer windowed in the same way (though the best ones will be done in Jan I suppose )

Its like them reality TV shows, they are waiting for the week before Christmas to make the appointment just to get the ratings up, I wouldn't be surprised if their is not a christmas single release on the back of the appointment of the manager!

Haha, we could probably do a Baker & Kelly style Bohemian Rhapsody song with all the names that have been linked.

Looks like i was right all along. Fitton has not learned anything from the last time when he did not allow Malpas to bring in his own people.

Seems this is near the mark- any reputable boss will want to bring in their own team

How does that make you right?

He states that he could've appointed someone quickly and is glad he didn't. Success doesn't mean he has to be a BIG name.

If the Lord Jesus Christ came in with God as Director of Football guarenteeing an infinate winning streak, you'd find something to moan about.

Please, please, please Bart - wait until an appointment is made before going off on one.

Bit premature.

Exactly, it's nothing but lack of patience.

Everyone wants an appointment but jumping to conclusions is annoying.

Next time you want to post something, can you make sure your PC isn't switched on?

Yay Bart is back.

Can you please stop talking shit?

Next time you think of posting, think again.

YEAH, I RULE. IN YOUR FACES!!!11111ONE

STFC Bart FTW!!!111 g33kz0r!

Apparently its not the first time either  :D

Rude

I agree with you Bart.

This Fitton guy doesnt have a clue, not allowing the new manager (who hasnt even been fucking named yet!!!) to bring in his back room staff.

He knows nothing about football and he's been here a year now and we've got backwards. I think its about time Mr. Fitton did the right think and put the club up for sale.

Diamandis always allowed the manager to bring in his own staff.

Of course, in all seriousness you are talking fucking bollocks again as usual you cunt. The article said that Fitton didnt think the new man would bring in a 'sizeable entourage' how many is sizeable bart?

That could mean that the new manager can bring in 3 of his own staff to go with Byrne, Williams, Granville & Bodin to make 7. Or it could mean Fittons number one choice has said he wants Byrne as a coach. It could just mean that Byrnes a bloody good coach (nah, waaay to positive for you to think of Bart)

Infact it could mean anything. Fitton in the last few weeks as linked people with the job then unlinked them, blown our socks off and then put them back on again.

....and still we dont even have a fucking manager, so fail to see how we can even speculate on his backroom staff and who he could/should/might bring in and who he could/should/might keep.

Also....going back even further a few people (myself and Reg mainly) raised this at the time when everyone wanted Malpas, Byrne & Co sacked. Where the fuck do you think the money is going to come from to pay off all our staff and get in a whole new team? Did you think of that Bart?

Top rant Dan 8)

I agree totally.

Why is it a top rant? he is assuming the same way Bart is

the tone, the tone

I wish Bart would stay and discuss his points of view :(

It's not the same at all. It's a bit hyperbolastic with a strawman thrown in. But DV at least backs up his assumptions. Bart just makes a negative assumption, states it as fact, and bases a fake trolling opinion on it. Fatbury does the same.


Fuck that.

Anarchy is fun.

To be fair Ben Dv basically said the same as Bart in the other thread but just did not sound so depressing

The real reason it is taking so long is that one of the candidates in employment is Hillary Clinton and she's insisted on a full primaries run-off to select the new manager. Ling is, as we speak, setting up his campaign base in Utah

what does Trolling mean??

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I don't think they're saying the same thing at all. Unless we're looking at different threads.

I'm saying that Bart's "opinions" are based on nothing other than the desire to wind people up.

Dv Wrote
However, I dont like the sound of 'the new manager probably wont bring in an sizeable entourage' I hope this means the new guy will bring it one or two and not the new guy will bring no one in with him

....because that was a total fuck up last time!



CuntyBollockchops wrote
Fitton has not learned anything from the last time when he did not allow Malpas to bring in his own people.

Seems this is near the mark- any reputable boss will want to bring in their own team

Seems pretty much the same opinion to me. Not that it matters Bart is still a cock

thats different

Im saying I hope it doesnt mean this....

Bart is saying it definitely means this....

Perhaps the candidates have all been chosen by an impartial lottery and have been sent to a deserted island, given one weapon each and have to fight in a battle of survival. The winner then takes the job, providing a compensation package can be agreed with their club.

I bet Fitton's flying out there to congratulate the winner now.