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Do you beleive in them?

My missus says her colleagues at work have seen a lot recently especially older relatives.

Also there was a dad who works at williams f1 team, and the night before a race he dreamt that ayrton senna was going to have a major smash up the next day and coincendently he did. and died unfortunately.

Spooky or just a load of bollocks??

I saw a little boy when i lived in an old house in Warminster......all misty around the legs!

Poor lad

My old house was haunted it was a  16th century cottage and several friends have seen and heard things there.....mostly women, but according to those that believe you have to be sensitive to see them....suffice to say.......I have not seen any!

Seen a nun years ago at the old central club when i was younger,Someone told me later it was used by nuns at one time where they used look after the homeless.

An ex-girlfriends mum said whilst pregnant dreamt that a couple from a local town (didn't know them) died in a hotel fire. Weird nightmare she thought.

Next week the hotel was on the news and a couple from Newport did indeed die in it.

Spooky strange shit. 
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So what about mediums like Derek Acora, John Edward, etc. Real deal, fraudsters or delusional? Personally I think a mixture of the latter two.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3x_JUHDYZ0

Derek Acora is just a big fake. A bit like tarot readers.

Who would/Has done a weegie (sp) board

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeQ0a3WfZ7g

i've seen a ghost horse once

How do you know it wasn't a live horse?

i was running down this country lane that had fields either side, and around the bend i saw a horse. I got a bit wary because it looked like it was on the road, but when i got round the corner it wasnt their, and was nowhere to be seen. was odd

That was just the amphetamines Dave.

I've heard stories about John Edward researching his audience before shows.  You don't just turn up for those shows you have to register your address for the tickets to be sent to you.

In the example of fraud I saw, a produce, a young lady in this case, went to the street of one of the audience members, knocked on their door, said she'd broken down up the road, could she use their phone.  She went inside and just looked out for anything JE could use.  Photographs, something hanging on the wall etc.

Then during the show JE mysteriously describes the ladies kitchen, including a picture of an old man (from the other side) he wants to let you know he's fine..... etc etc.

I'm not saying it's all made up, but if it was ever proven to be fake JE should end up in jail, you shouldn't be allowed to toy with people's emotions like that.

haha hush

I was out shooting on my own last year in the woods and something large ran past me about 20 yards away, my dog couldnt pick up a scent and there was no site nor sound of what ever it was. It scared the shit out of me.

My cottage is haunted

My missus wanted to see Acorah in Salisbury.......he was totally shit and just made stuff up until he got a hook from someone...........eg......I am getting a message from a man in a butchers apron holding a knife.....he kept going until someone piped up......total shite.
Sad thing was there were people there that actually were moved, one woman had her Granddads watch etc etc.....very sad.
Nearly as sad as me paying £30 to watch the shite!

Where do you shoot Frogstar..can i come??  live or shotguns?

dont fucking knock our derek

sorry max but it was a poor night out.....used to like him in most haunted,,,,but i was let down!

On Salisbury plain, no and shotguns. In that order.

Didn't Acorah once get possessed by a spirit by the name of Francis.   He became very agressive toward Yvette, calling her a whore etc.

A day or so later it was revealed that this Francis he was meant to be turned out to be the ghost of Frances, a woman from years ago.  Looks like Derek dropped a bollock on that one!

Rather live anyway Fogstar!

Sorry mate you have lost me, Live what? I wasnt being funny, i really do prefer to shoot on my own.

Live rounds rather than shot.....my little 17 rim...

who the fuck is max?

Arrggghh  my missus...........just scrolled up.......sorry mEx.

Is it the Ghost of Christmas Present? He was a jolly fellow in the Muppet Christmas Carol! Unlike that creepy Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come.

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Muppet Christmas carol is ace

Why are ghosts always fully clothed, or at least in their night/bed clothes?  You never see a naked ghost thesedays.  That'd be ace!

A mate of mine went with Acurah to the Bear hotel in Devizes when they did the show there.  He was down the cellar with him and before Acura could do his 'man possessed' bit my mate started speaking in a funny voice claiming to be a ghost (he thinks he has 'powers' as well!) - it was funny as fuck cos you could see that he was stealing Acurahs thunder and he was getting fucking annoyed with the whole situation and at the end of the show when they come up with some historical research of the ghost that made contact they said there was no evidence to suggest the ghost my mate has been possessed by existed... I bet if Acurah had done it he would have researched the history and found a 'ghost' that fitted the bill... just sour grapes me thinks!!!!

Edit:  and by the way I don't for one minute believe my mate was possessed - he's a crap actor with a broad west country accent and with his rotund size there would never be enough room for a ghost to get inside him...

Bickering over who's best at getting possessed could just well be one of the funniest things you can witness!!!

I could imagine Acorah going back to his dressing room and having a huge head fit over it...

I lived in a haunted place in Birmingham for 3 years, poltergeist. my girlfriend at the time wouldnt stay in a room on her own, it used to throw things around and move things about, sat on my bed once.

I love to stay in a proper haunted house because after that I would/might believe in ghosts and stuff. I've not seen a single on yet though.

me spacey and yeovil keep talking about doing a night in that pub in avebury.......

We used to go to that pub all the time when my mate worked there, would love to be there for an eerie lock in!

I've seen a ghost cat because it ran through a wall, I also saw my dead cousin at the end of my bed looking over me.

I often hear bumps in the night but that is just sussex farting and pissing himself :)

I'd be well up for that if I could. No chance of getting the misses doing it though as Thai's beleive in ghosts 100%.  

I took her to a 'ghost house' once, the type where dressed up people jump out on you and stuff. My misses crapped herself and clobbered some poor ghost (Bloke) with her handbag.

I found it funny if nobody else did.

For anyone seriously interested  about the paranormal as a whole, including this topic, I would recommend reading "Is there an afterlife?", by Professor David Fontana, a Fellow of the British Psychological Society, and a past President of the Society for Psychical Research.
I have studied the subject for many years, and experimented in several areas. You have to experience any phenomena yourself, and it is not reliable or predictable. Also, you cannot expect anyone else to believe you are telling the truth, or you are maybe deluding yourself, or not being rational and logical.
Besides many experiences which have indicated to me that the paranormal is real but very evasive, I have taken part in seances which included physical phenomena. These are objective, because everybody observes the same events and can compare notes. If fraud is eliminated, by the medium or accomplices, then events not explained by known scientific laws can be termed paranormal.
To give one example. Table tilting, where a table is supposed to move in a seance without people pushing it in any way, sometimes spelling out "messages", was once very popular, and some skilled magicians were unable to detect any way that fraud could have taken place with certain mediums. ( See the book I mentioned P.321). Having seen this happen myself several times, I had the opportunity of leading a seance in my own home, with some friends and a physical medium. I set up all the conditions myself, and the table, so no fraud, and a subdued light meant we could all see clearly. We all placed our fingertips lightly on the table edge.
After a while, during singing and taped music, the table began to rock backwards and forwards, and I asked all to take their hands right away from the table. They did so, but rocking continued, and we "talked" to the table/whatever by a simple code, ie one tilt for yes, two for no, then later A=1, z=26 etc. We asked if deceased people were there we knew, and the rocking became very vigorous. No way were we doing it.
At this point it is tempting to delete this reply, because of fear of being labelled the Townend Nutter, and I don't expect anyone to believe me. I wouldn't believe me! However, my friends are all witnesses that an unknown energy rocked the table that day.
The problem is, it can't be done to order. You need a medium and the right atmosphere, and it doesn't always work. I tried it with another group of six, but no medium, and nothing happened.

 I still love football as well...

It's comments like this which is probably why you're missed so much on TEF :D

I want to be in a seance (sp), sounds very interesting.  I don't think you're a nutter fella, fair play having a go.

was the seance in the seymour :)

My missus stayed there with her mates a couple of years back, they all bricked it and stayed awake all night.

Just be warned that if anything happens, there's no mobile phone signal in the pub...

Do you know what, repeatability is a bit of an essential requirement for something to be termed evidence.

The Amazing Randy spends his entire life pretty much going around looking for evidence of the paranormal. He offers $1m reward for anyone that can produce anything that he can't explain in conditions that rule out fakery.

No-ones ever managed to collect. Houdini did the same thing, spent half his time travelling around debunking frauds and shysters, whilst looking for any geniune evidence of "the unexplained".

I wouldn't call anyone a nutter for believing in this stuff, but for me it just speaks to the need some people have to believe in something else beyond the material. The same as religion, new age hippy dippy stuff and to some exent the UFO obsessives.

I don't have that need and, suprise suprise, I've never had any experience that I'd term paranormal.

Seances? Moving objects in semi-darkened rooms. I've seen too much Derren Brown to automatically think "oh that's ghosts then".

I used to work with a girl that was convinced she had the ghosts of some children sat at the top of her stairs that wanted to push her little Brother down the stairs.She was very matter of fact about it,if she was talking shit she was quite convincing.Think she lived in Marlborugh.

I also worked with a woman that just knew stuff that she couldnt possibly know and claimed that a voice popped into her head and told her these things.

When I was 6 or 7 we had our Dog put to sleep because it was ill and the next morning I went down stairs and it ran out of the Kitchen to greet me then dissappeared.

"I used to work with a girl that was convinced she had the ghosts of some children sat at the top of her stairs that wanted to push her little Brother down the stairs.She was very matter of fact about it,if she was talking shit she was quite convincing.Think she lived in Marlborugh."

I'm not sure if that's a common feeling, but I swear to God, that I used to have that exact same feeling when I was a young'un.  The ghosts at the top of the stairs wanting to push me down.  Fuck me that used to be scarey.  This is the first time I have ever mentioned this by the way.  100% serious post - honest.

My dad works in old folks homes and says he's seen former residents etc... He's a kook though :)

It only ever seems to be people that believe in this sort of bollocks that see these things.

I think people that want to believe convince themselves of all sorts. The aunt of my Mrs swears that she once saw a man turn into a dog, and saw someone else grow a new leg. She's a born again type and thinks there are witchs and demons all over the place.

My old man, who's not into this kinda thing has seen a person walk straight through a 8 ft tall wire fence.  He's convinced that it must have been a ghost walking along in a time when there was no fence there.  Like I say though he's not into ghosts or the after life, bu the swears he saw it happen.

Who wants to come to sussex to play with my Ouija Board?

My old house when I was at Plymouth had a good few weird things going on. Including myself seeing, what I thought was my housemate, walking out of his room and walking upstairs... I went to talk to him but nobody was upstairs or in the house for that matter.

In the 2 years I lived there plenty of odd things happened.

Is that some kind of obscure double entendre that I've not understood?

You can put your finger on my glass if you like and see what moves?

i think i fairly sane lumps and generally agree with most of your posts, i swear on my nephews life i saw a ghost when i was about 14 in a manor house in somerset, my friend was with me and he saw it too. I dont believe in god and this has bugged me as my belief system is totally at odds with what i saw that evening.

Cordon bleu?

I think what everyone has got to remember is that our senses are not a direct link to the material world around us. Much of what we think we perceive is actually our brains metaphorically "filling in gaps". For example, we're only able to focus in a fairly narrow range of vision, but when we're moving about we don't perceive fuzzy out of focus images in our peripheral field. Our brain does a handy, "remember what that bit looks like and stick with that image" thing. As a result our sense can be pretty unreliable in terms of telling us what's actually out there.

It's REALLY bloody easy for us to see something that isn't there, especially in the dark, or when we're stressed or when things move fast. The scientific evidence is really clear, eye witness testimony is pretty shit evidence. So much so that courts are instructed that they should never convict on the basis of eye witness testimony alone.

It's really easy to see something that looks like a figure that is no such thing. I've seen the same hiker at the side of the A57 going across the Peaks back to Sheffield from where I'm working in Manc about 6 times. And each time I look again and realise it's an outlet pipe or drain or something. I've been drivng that route for a year now and I still forget and do a double take at it every now and again.

I know I'm being all rational about it but that's what I'm like. I was fairly clear in the thread about religion that I expected any belief to be subject to the same standards of evidence that any scientific theory had to stand up to, and for me the same rules apply to anything "supernatural".

Now I don't know what you're "ghost" sighting was like, if a headless cavalier rode down the stairs on his spectral steed and galloped off down the corridor shrieking then perhaps I'm completely wrong. But if what you're saying is that aged 14 you and a mate alone in an old manor house and probably in a fairly suggestible frame of mind glimpsed what you thougt was a ghostly figure, I'm just suggesting the possibility that you both may have got it wrong.

Has sussex been neglecting your needs?

You pose a very strong argument Lumps.

Would you like to be proved wrong?, and if so what would you consider to be proof?

Genuine question.

Your missus is called max? ooo errr

I believe ghosts are frozen images of the past...abit like a film,we probably see lots of images but only scary or horrific images make us react.

What about the moving ones?

That cant be true the one i saw was moving,suffice to say i moved quicker tho.

Has anyone ever heard one my mrs swear's she heard one sigh in our house one night.

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Who ya gonna call anyway?

GHOSTBUSTERS!

Bustin' makes me feel good.

I've gone off ghosts.

I did see some UFO's in Milton Keynes a few seasons ago. They came down looking for intelligent signs of life, but all they could find was this lot, so they fucked off back home





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We have moving film dont we!.....its been out about 150 years chaps.

I can see 3 TEFers in that pic.

Name and shame axs..

Whits, Bart and Tans (maybe).

Kinky Tom is top right looking like he's attempting the funky chicken.

I've lived in a old Quakers Meeting House for over thirty years with gravestones and bodies buried in the garden and the only time anyone thinks it's haunted is when the wife answers the door!

I can see JPC in that pic

you tease

I can see ghost of Harry Seacombe checking out 3 male behinds.

**Apologies if this old fella is a relation**

What in that picture Rich!

Middle-Right of the picture.

A windswept Birdy's 3 rows from the front. I'm not the one in the groovy shades btw!

Maybe I'll see one tonight.

Thank god I'm off to the beer festival tonight, I fookin hate trick or treaters.

I haven't read all the thread but has Most Haunted been mentioned on here yet?  If not, it's shiite, the new bloke they've got on there, Brian, is terrible.

Might put the willies up you though.

That was a bit of a rubbish comment by me, I still stand by the naked ghost thing, and the fact you never see one, but ghosts are often since in old Victorian nightdress aren't they?

Good pun Nev, as always.

www.stmarysghost.com/?cc=gb&lc=en

When your mansion house needs haunting just call...

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ace!!!!!

Me and my friend were having a pink windmill/RodHull and Emu/Grotbags reminise this morning

My friends trying to find a green wig to go to a Halloween ball as Grotbags

Grotbags once turned on Cirencester's Christmas lights. At least I think it was her, it could have been our drama teacher for all I know (who unsurprisingly was nicknamed Grotbags).

Got to go,

There's somebody at the door
There's somebody at the door
There's somebody at the door

ha ha ha

what was that crocdile thing that was like her helper?

The most interesting coincidence during my psychic research days is as follows.
I sat in a development circle with a medium, whose honesty I trust completely. Of course she got to know stuff about me, and was anyway very sceptical about her psychic ability. I had a private reading one day with her, and she asked "them" on the other side to give me something to make me believe in Spirit, as I was a sceptic and scientist. She said they are giving me "Cold Comfort Farm",  they know you will research this and will find something very relevant to your life.
I had no idea at the time what this meant, but Googled it, and found it was quite a famous novel. I found a copy, and read it. On page 25, there was a paragraph, out of context with the book in general, which described the heroine Flora using an attic as a bedroom, but was used as a meeting-room for the Spiritist Investigator's League on Fridays. The owner hoped that Flora was not a sceptic, for manifestations sometimes occurred in the attic, and even a trace of scepticism in the atmosphere spoiled the conditions, and prevented phenomena, which provided the Society with valuable evidence in favour of Survival. ( I was a sceptic, and so was the medium to an extent, and I sat in the circle on Fridays as it happened.) At this stage, I questioned her and she swore she had never heard of the book, the words just came in to her head. So I thought either she was lying, it was a coincidence, or it did not mean anything really. However,as it happened soon after a filmed version of Cold Comfort Farm appeared on BBC TV, and I watched it.
A few months later, I met a lady who became my second wife. Another medium long before had foretold that I would divorce and marry someone from the Church. Some time after our marriage, I told my new wife about the Cold Comfort Farm story, and how that paragraph had intrigued me, then she said, " Oh, I went to school with the producer of that programme, quite a friend, Alison Gilbey, and she sent me publicity stuff about it!"
Later again, we happened to bump in to Alison Gilbey in Tescos, she had travelled from London to visit a very sick relative.
This is a true story, although Halloween is near!

Apparently it was called Croc. I never really watched the Pink Windmill for obvious reasons.
RIP Rod Hull. cruely taken away from us by Man United.


I can't believe they cancelled that program. superb. Sheeeriffff Buuuuuuck.
Must get that on DVD after I have finished with Twin Peaks.

erm, anyway, back to the topic in hand...

Normy, that just sounds like a big coincidence to me.

I prefer the story where you shagged a succubus.

She probably shagged me I suppose....you've got a good memory spacey!

I'll never forget that story, normy.

My ex-wife won't forget it either, waking her up with my humping and not believing it was a Spirit!

How do you know it wasn't just a "dirty" dream then Norm?

Is that why she's your ex-wife? She caught you in bed with a succubus?

Perhaps it was janaage. Many men have nocturnal emissions, especially if they're not getting much, (or any), but usually the result is a bit of movement and wet pyjamas when you wake normally and remember nothing.  In this case, it was active enough to wake me up. I then remembered how "she" looked,  asked "her" who are you?,and she replied Linda Beaton. So, perhaps my subconscious self made it all up. I did Google the name, and there were many living, but when I looked for deaths on the genealogy sites I only found one Linda Beaton.

Was she fit?

that is quality just read it on other forum, great memory spacey.

point me out

It did not help, because she was scared and disapproved of my interest in the paranormal. Apart from the succubus or dirty dream, take your pick, she had some strange things happen to her in that bedroom. One night she saw "lights" which woke her up, as I slept, and she thought there was a fire outside. Nothing when she looked out. She saw a black shape over the bed as well. Another time when I was away, she sensed that someone got in to bed behind her,  who sighed, so she said. She told me to stop it all, and take "them" away. ( I have no powers at all).

I never noticed this at the time

 :nod:

Do you go ghosthunting? I've always been interested in the paranormal and unexplained stuff, but have been put off by psychics that attach themselves to it. Why do they have to have highlights, earrings and flounce about in a showbiz way? I've never seen a ghost, but know people that claim that they have. They seem reasonably sane, so I've no reason to doubt them..........to be honest, I just fancy getting a bit pissed up and exploring a haunted castle. Yeovil sent me a link to a site once that had a story from a woman that claimed her ouijja board ate some Wotsits. I think that's my that's my favourite ghost story.

mmm, Wotsits.

beef flavour wotsits are the best.