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Right, my job spec has recently changed at work, and I reckon I deserve a shit load more money than I am on at the moment as a result. Thing is, I have never asked for a pay rise before. How do I go about it? Any tips?

request an appraisal mate

thats always the way I have handled it.

It forces the conversation around to job spec and performance and looks as if you are being proactive and care about not only the company but your performance and the role you play within the organisation.

Good question - I want to ask for one too - Im on a school leavers wage! its been 2 years now and I think that maybe Im worth a little more to the company

If the appraisal approach doesn't cut it you should be able to request your HR / Personnel dept to arrange for a job re-evaluation (what they call it where i work) whereby they look at what you're doing, how you're doing it and how this compares with your peers.

If other people are geting paid more for doing the same, or less, then they won't have a leg to stand on. It's a good idea to check that you can back up what you say with evidence of your outputs though, and if you've got an old job description anywhere, dig it out and highlight the bits that you go above and beyond.

Don't threaten to quit unless you're going to though... they called a former colleague of mine's bluff and he stayed put - looking like a right cock and getting the teas in ever since.

"Don't threaten to quit unless you're going to though... they called a former colleague of mine's bluff and he stayed put - looking like a right cock and getting the teas in ever since. "

Ha ha, quality!!!

Yeah, what Fred said.

Worked for me, my pay rise and promotion finally got signed off today!

Go on strike.

best advice yet :D

Think the plan is to write a letter detailing how my job has changed and informe them of what I could get elsewhere. Any other tips?

i think your just being greedy

Go in with a list of everything you have done in the past 12 months that is above and beyond your original job spec and argue why you would like a raise off that basis.

I find within reason most bosses will go yes unless they have a tight budget or it's out of their own pocket.

Nowt wrong with being greedy if you think you deserve it Dave. My pay's gone up 20.6% since last April thanks to my persistent nagging at my manager.

How are you coping on £12060 then Samdy ?
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He sells his arse down station road at the weekends

This is something I've wanted to do recently - since people have left my company and no replacements have been employed, my workload has increased so much. I've also been doing the Sage support role for our clients and have pretty much taught myself the ins and outs of the software. All this has led to me working at home in the evenings and weekends as well, all unpaid.

Problem is I've not done to great in one of my exams and am having to re-sit it yet again. Whilst the firm admitted they cannot afford to lose me, they would have to sack me should I fail again. I'd look a bit of a tit demanding a pay rise and then getting the push a month later.

I figured I'd bring it up at my next appraisal/quarterly review and see what happens. Come the end of the year I'll hopefully be at a point when I've got the exam out of the way and my pay will be reviewed accordingly anyway. I'll simply ask for more than they offer (unless they somehow manage to give me more than what I expect).

The other lad at the same level as me requested a pay rise outright a few weeks back. Last I knew he still hadn't heard back.

STA - Not sure about the appraisal advice. An appraisal is there to assess your performance, not discuss your renumeration.

I wouldn't go straight to HR either, as that is likely to piss your line manager off. Go through them and have them do the negotiating for you. They will be able to convery to HR how your job has changed and should submit your new job description to HR, that way you can then be re-evaluated against the market rate for your job. That's what I do with my staff.

Not bad Nev, as Bo said though I'm having to prostitute myself at weekends :(

Still the extra pound a week must come in handy :-)

£1 a week? That bastard charged me 15 Euros for a suck and a fuck.

Yeah, but you're special John x x x

Unfortunately, so have your food bills, utility bills and the cost of servicing your mortgage.  (Smiley thing, smiley thing.)

I've just been refused a pay rise because 'you need to be able to demonstrate a much greater involvement in the curriculum which means getting more involved with students and indeed supporting lessons etc'.

WTF!! I'm not a teacher!!  >:(

I got 5k yesterday on top of annual, by using the nagging, and hinting i might be looking around method. Judging by the varied responses no hard and fast method, depends on persistance a lot of the time, and willingness to back up if it goes pear shaped, I was.

now i know why so many school network managers/it bods are resentful and bitter.

i still don't understand how some of them get these jobs though...

'so, this web based product we're purchasing from you to manage your library...do we need to host it on a server and does it need IIS?'

*headdesk*

need a hand ?

Erm, maybe they realise that many "web-based products" are hosted by the vendor these days and provided basically as rented services? Making the question about hosting extremely pertinent. And even if they do need to host it themselves, most web apps would not require IIS. Many would not require a separate web server at all, because for example they are hosted in AppServers which embed their own web server, or because they are platform-neutral and can run on any web server rather than requiring them to effectively blow a hole in their network by installing the bug-ridden security hole that is IIS.

*headdesk*

fuck off paul

OK. I'll go annoy someone else. :-)

Are you related to Power to People per chance ?

nah i didn't call him a cunt

i did however just speak to an it technician who didn't know how to compress a folder

what's a folder ?

Sit on it.

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