And it begins

[Flashheart]

The more you bet the higher the potential rewards.

The potential upside is fantastic.

But what if the gamble fails?

[sonicyouth]

How much extra will next season as aChampionship club bring?

I've no idea of the figures but the way Bournemouth are spending combined with their losses there is no way you can describe that as a 'little bit extra'. They made a loss of £3.4m in 11/12 and that will have increased this season. Bristol City's losses were much higher and they still got relegated.

It's irrelevant anyway as both clubs have a rich wanker who is willing to throw money at it and we don't.

[Paolo69]

I'd strongly suggest the betting metaphor made that point clear.

Black could afford to gamble, I suspect Jed is not in such a fortunate position. I'm afraid it looks like we have to live with that.

[DiV]

The potential upside is fantastic.

But what if the gamble fails?

I think the good people of the TEF have enough intelligence to work out what happens if the gamble fails without me having to spell it out

Black could afford to gamble, I suspect Jed is not in such a fortunate position. I'm afraid it looks like we have to live with that.

Black couldn't afford the gamble, that's why he split. Which is a shame.

[Flashheart]

I think the good people of the TEF have enough intelligence to work out what happens if the gamble fails without me having to spell it out

My initial point included the term 'financial sense'.

Do you think it makes financial sense to take a big gamble that could potentially see the end of the club?

[DiV]

No but I haven't suggested that and neither did leefer originally.

You are going to a worse case scenario. Not every potential gamble has to be club destroying.

[Paolo69]

I think the good people of the TEF have enough intelligence to work out what happens if the gamble fails without me having to spell it out

Black couldn't afford the gamble, that's why he split. Which is a shame.

He could, he just had enough half way through so decided to bet in play and take the price. Admittedly a a hefty loss in his case but probably not as much as if he continued to play.

[Paolo69]

No but I haven't suggested that and neither did leefer originally.

You are going to a worse case scenario. Not every potential gamble has to be club destroying.

We overspent by approx £2m last season and didn't get up. How much more do we have to gamble? I suspect a couple of seasons like that and it becomes club destroying without a sugar daddy to bankroll us.

[sonicyouth]

He could, he just had enough half way through so decided to bet in play and take the price. Admittedly a a hefty loss in his case but probably not as much as if he continued to play.

What was he ever going to win though? Unlikely he'd ever see his money again, any success at the club clearly meant nothing to him and if he'd waited until the summer and we got promoted we'd be royally fucked if we had to make budget cuts after being promoted

[Cibocchi_Is_God]

Black could afford to bankroll the club, he just didn't want to. Spending large amounts is all well and good so long as the benefactor can afford to and perhaps more importantly wants to, Andrew Black had no interest in Swindon Town, whereas someone like Lansdown at City wants to fund the club (as a fervent supporter) and can afford to.

[Paolo69]

What was he ever going to win though? Unlikely he'd ever see his money again, any success at the club clearly meant nothing to him and if he'd waited until the summer and we got promoted we'd be royally fucked if we had to make budget cuts after being promoted

All very true Sonic. Which does beg the question of why he got involved in the first place. Something I have no idea on I'm afraid.

[Flashheart]

No but I haven't suggested that and neither did leefer originally.

You are going to a worse case scenario. Not every potential gamble has to be club destroying.

So what are you suggesting?

[DiV]

We overspent by approx £2m last season and didn't get up. How much more do we have to gamble? I suspect a couple of seasons like that and it becomes club destroying without a sugar daddy to bankroll us.

Fuck me.

There isn't a set figure where the gamble suddenly pays off.

If Black had loaned the club the Ritchie fee instead of selling, on a low interest rate and we got Promoted everyone would be better off.

[sonicyouth]

All very true Sonic. Which does beg the question of why he got involved in the first place. Something I have no idea on I'm afraid.

We got taken over by a bunch of mates/business associates who fancied trying to run a football club. They subsequently all fell out with each other and Black was the last man standing.

That happened in 2008 and has happened again in 2013 it would seem...

[Batch]

The Advertiser understands Plymouth Argyle have enquired about the availability of Swindon Town pair Luke Rooney and Lee Cox. #stfc

Would like to see Cox stay to see what he can do, especially if Macca is off. Luke Rooney not so bothered. There is a player in him but he's not worked out IMHO.