New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[Posh Red]

Thinking about it more I was told that both Standing & Kiely had leant/given Clem money to run the club.
I wonder if the signed transfer of shares was done as a form of guarantee that the money would be paid back, and it was one of the those parties that sent it through (hence the done in error).

However, the close ranks & don’t mention it just makes it look very dodgy.

Once you go down the route of half truths & cover ups then any trust you have is being eroded.

As for the Trust, they can’t do anything about things they don’t know about, however now they do know they need to ask those questions and get to the Truth

[tans]

I want another statement saying we cant buy anyone due to a debt from 1957

Those were the days

[Bob's Orange]

As for the Trust, they can’t do anything about things they don’t know about, however now they do know they need to ask those questions and get to the Truth

The Trust have already clearly backed the Clem horse. They completed their 'due diligence' and were happy to say he's 100% kosher. They are in a really difficult place, one they possibly can't get out of now they've made their bed. I guess they are currently lying in it, with a pang of regret with the stale breath taste of truth serum.

[Riddick]

The Trust have already clearly backed the Clem horse. They completed their 'due diligence' and were happy to say he's 100% kosher. They are in a really difficult place, one they possibly can't get out of now they've made their bed. I guess they are currently lying in it, with a pang of regret with the stale breath taste of truth serum.

I think we need to be careful about what we consider the trust. The trust board as it was that backed Clem a couple of years ago has replaced maybe 70% of its board members. Sure the 3 or 4 trust faces that are regularly seen are still there, but i'm pretty sure people on that board will be pressing and asking the same questions the general fan base is. Its not just a yes man.

[DMC]

And this is where we are at now with this club. No matter what the club do or say now none of us will believe because of the 2 years of nonsense.

I still believe Clems intentions are the right ones, he was owed a lot of money and will want that back, I think the only possible way was to get the help of others

Just my opinions of course and not fact but either way it’s a fucking mess and a proper statement is needed and a line drawn under it. Lay it out for what it is and let the fans decide if they want to continue to support, they’d be suprised I think

[Bob's Orange]

And this is where we are at now with this club. No matter what the club do or say now none of us will believe because of the 2 years of nonsense.

I still believe Clems intentions are the right ones, he was owed a lot of money and will want that back, I think the only possible way was to get the help of others

Just my opinions of course and not fact but either way it’s a fucking mess and a proper statement is needed and a line drawn under it. Lay it out for what it is and let the fans decide if they want to continue to support, they’d be suprised I think

I really really want this to be true also. I like Clem as a person from what I have heard, read etc. He's put a lot of money behind it seemingly and for what? Too many greedy parasites around wanting their pound of flesh, that he's having a real hard time getting rid of.

[Bob's Orange]

Is much going to change until we have this court case that's been dragging on? Is this likely to happen this year do we know?

[Nemo]

Something that just occurred to me about the wording of the statement... "100% the owner of the football club" is not neccessarily "The owner of 100% of the football club" - technically you could be the owner with 50.1% of the shares... and indeed, lots of our previous owners have - I don't think Seton Wills ever owned 100% as there were small fan shareholdings then before Fitton killed them all.

(Clem, if you want me to do your PR, I charge very reasonable rates and am happy to be paid in Swinton Reds shares)

[Legends-Lounge]

Yes but I took it as 7-10 for full redevelopment of the ground not to start phase 1.

Right, though I suppose the interpretation of ‘development’ is going to be key. And by the sound of the new investors their CV’s  could well be key in demonstrating that having plans drawn up counts as starting or some such hot air.

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

I really really want this to be true also. I like Clem as a person from what I have heard, read etc. He's put a lot of money behind it seemingly and for what? Too many greedy parasites around wanting their pound of flesh, that he's having a real hard time getting rid of.

Agree. It would be much easier and nicer to believe this, but when you're being lied to its pretty impossible to do so.

[Batch]

I think they've proper fucked it this tone DMC .

a frank ** for example ** "I brought them on board temporarily for funding purposes" "**

or "it really was a mistake"

same thing really. first one he will get slapped for lying. Second one he'll get slated for BS.

fucks sake

[Batch]

However, a side from the all the obvious questions; why the fuck is the holding company called Swinton?

I don't recall the reason, but it's certainly historic from  the time of Jed oirc. If that's right, could be he spelt Swindon wrong 😁

[4D]

Swindone

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

I don't recall the reason, but it's certainly historic from  the time of Jed oirc. If that's right, could be he spelt Swindon wrong 😁

Given how many variations of spelling his last name appeared online, that does not surprise me at all.

[ThreeDrawsMentality]

Has anyone emailed or contacted the Trust yet to air their concerns? If enough of us got in contact, could well end up needing to be discussed by them like how a petition works in Parliament etc