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« Reply #210 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 12:02:29 » |
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Is Kenneth still in charge? Even if we did sack him now it's too late I reckon we are down. Oldham and Shrews made their changes at the perfect times and are reaping the rewards. Chesterfield did also but are still struggling. I'm baffled with the quality in our squad that we can't put out a half decent competitive side instead of a rabble that can barely defend and are as dangerous as a Swiss Army in a war.
We fucking stink the country ground out currently. Doubt I'll be going to anymore games after Coventry.
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we've been to Aberdeen, we hate the Hibs, they make us spew up, so make some noise, the gorgie boys, for Hearts in Europe.
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« Reply #211 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 13:10:02 » |
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Most fans could probably pick a better line up with what we got,these muppets change players but not tactics without the change we're down.
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« Reply #212 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 17:37:05 » |
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Most fans could probably pick a better line up with what we got,these muppets change players but not tactics without the change we're down.
It's not tactics that's the problem, we had the same tactics in the playoff season (although we got worse as the season got on) but we still scored a lot of goals and created them. Just posted this on FB: "Williams isn't the problem, Power is"
This keeps getting banded about and Power isn't blameless for our current position but the majority of the blame has to be with the coaching.
Power may tells Luke to play a certain way but he doesn't tell him not to do subs till the 70th minute or not do any, he doesn't take the training and makes the players pass the ball around rather than work on their fitness (for god sake, we have unfit professionals in February), he doesn't tell Williams to not work the players on their physicality......
Power can dictate how he wants the team to play all day long and Luke can work to them requirements BUT the problems we have go far beyond the style of the play, including:
- no fitness levels - no physicality - no mental strength - no desire to run back and make a challenge - no confidence to want to shoot at goal
Power is to blame for giving Luke the contract, he took a gamble on a coach who was highly regarded and did good things with the team under Cooper and Ling but under his own tenure, the team has steadily got worse... you can say he might not have had the best team possible but every single one of the players should be able to:
- run around for 90 minutes - be able to win the ball - be strong enough to play the game even when we go behind - willing to put their body on the line to make a challenge - be willing to take a chance at a goal rather than passing it to someone else
Power got it wrong with the coach, I was 100% behind Luke's appointment due to his stature and his credentials of bringing the best out of players but unfortunately that hasn't happened. Luke may well be a good coach but he is tactically inept as shown in the last 2 games, refusing to make changes or making the wrong type of change for the game......... We should have beaten poxford but due to his lack of awareness and not replacing the players sooner, we got over ran and got beat. Yesterday, he supposedly got it wrong yet again and potentially cost us the game.
If the team were fit, were shooting and were actually trying, I would blame Power for the style we play BUT Luke can't even get those parts right......
Power needs to stand up, admit he got it wrong, put his money where his mouth is and get someone else in as the current coaching model isn't working. I am rarely crtical of people but it's blindingly obvious the coaching methods are abysmal at best and he keeps blaming everyone but himself, you would think after 18 months he would see the light and realise he isn't as good as he thinks he is.
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« Reply #213 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 17:59:59 » |
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All fair points, but it was Power that appointed Williams and Power that apparently won't replace him. And Power that brought in the smokesceen Sherwood to cover both their asses. Buck stops there
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« Reply #214 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:00:56 » |
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All fair points, but it was Power that appointed Williams and Power that apparently won't replace him. And Power that brought in the smokesceen Sherwood to cover both their asses. Buck stops there
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« Reply #215 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:02:00 » |
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All fair points, but it was Power that appointed Williams and Power that apparently won't replace him. And Power that brought in the smokesceen Sherwood to cover both their asses. Buck stops there
won't or is he giving him a little more time as Power owned up that maybe Luke didn't have the best tools, now he has bought in some replacements, he has maybe 1/2 games before Power realises something is up more than just the players
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« Reply #216 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:10:56 » |
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won't or is he giving him a little more time as Power owned up that maybe Luke didn't have the best tools, now he has bought in some replacements, he has maybe 1/2 games before Power realises something is up more than just the players
then that's an even more damning indictment of Power's disinterest in the club
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« Reply #217 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:11:29 » |
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won't or is he giving him a little more time as Power owned up that maybe Luke didn't have the best tools, now he has bought in some replacements, he has maybe 1/2 games before Power realises something is up more than just the players
Hmm, hope you're right. Personally I think Power's realised that some time ago, but for some reason won't change it
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« Reply #218 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:16:11 » |
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Hmm, hope you're right. Personally I think Power's realised that some time ago, but for some reason won't change it
He knows full well that going down will be bad financially so surely he has realised, time will tell.
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« Reply #219 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:18:35 » |
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then that's an even more damning indictment of Power's disinterest in the club
How so? you hire a gardener and only give him scissors to do the job, is he a bad gardener? You then give him a Flymo and then give him 2 weeks to see if that has an improvement in the quality of his work Common sense.... Power admitted he got the recruitment wrong so made changes, now given / giving Luke a chance to make improvements, hopefully the 2 games have been enough to see it's been as poor as before.
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« Reply #220 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:19:41 » |
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All fair points, but it was Power that appointed Williams and Power that apparently won't replace him. And Power that brought in the smokesceen Sherwood to cover both their asses. Buck stops there
Sherwood was the one that recommended him in the first place. Presumably as a coach but even so. I'm sure Power realises he is a dud...
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« Reply #221 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:24:50 » |
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How so? you hire a gardener and only give him scissors to do the job, is he a bad gardener?
If he tries to use the scissors to cut the hedge and in the process kicks the fuck out of your roses, yes. The most inadequate tools in this discussion are Williams and Embleton
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« Reply #222 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:29:46 » |
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If he tries to use the scissors to cut the hedge and in the process kicks the fuck out of your roses, yes. The most inadequate tools in this discussion are Williams and Embleton
exactly, they are the wrong fit for the first team in this league, they aren't bad coaches but just not first team coaches (more suited to youth level where they can spend time on working on player improvement properly)
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« Reply #223 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:30:29 » |
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If you buy him some nail clippers, then get some scissors on loan, then loan a flymo, a qualcast and a black and decker but only have two plug sockets you are a dick.
If you leave the blade out the flymo for fear of upsetting the balance of the nail clippers, and then claim the flymo couldn't handle the reality of cutting the grass, you are Luke Williams.
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« Reply #224 on: Sunday, February 12, 2017, 18:33:15 » |
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If he tries to use the scissors to cut the hedge and in the process kicks the fuck out of your roses, yes. The most inadequate tools in this discussion are Williams and Embleton
The only operators around the CG, who are fully competent are the groundsmen....Power should give them a pair of shears and put them in charge of the first team.
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