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Title: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:45:15
Ha! Muggy northern cunts lose smug portuguese cunt.

Ha! Muggy spanish bellends overpay for smug portuguese cunt.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:51:07
Muggy spanish bellends get money back in first month from shirt sales


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:52:45
Muggy english thread-starting cunt gets pwned by the first reply :P ;)


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:56:54
All the United fans are slagging him off alreaday, ace. :D


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: yeo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:57:54
has he gone or is it still just talk?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 08:59:53
They've officailly accepted a bid of £80m, he said he wanted to leave again.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:04:06
[url width=630 height=390]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/l15tfc/image001.jpg[/url]


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: juddie on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:07:22
he's gone, and Tevez to Man City. You heard it here first. Done deal.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:22:55
ive been saying teves to city for ages


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: juddie on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:25:48
suits at United are agreeing with you.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:26:04
If he moved to City, that would be truly hilarious...especially if he made a 'want to move to a big club with ambition' type statement.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: juddie on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:29:45
if it happens, it would mean lord ferg would have about 110 million to spend. Benzema is a given, but who could they sign to fill the commercial void left by ronaldo? Kaka's already gone.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:32:16
Ronaldo was merely a very expensive up-and-coming player with no commercial power when he arrived in England.

Ferguson can bring in 5 or 6 future "superstars" with that fee.

I'd have a look at some of the Dutch players at Real.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:33:11
if it happens, it would mean lord ferg would have about 110 million to spend. Benzema is a given, but who could they sign to fill the commercial void left by ronaldo? Kaka's already gone.

That japanese fella  :D


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:47:28
Real owed approx. £500m prior to these two transfers, so they've got to have a very understanding bank manager.

Madrid can buy all the forward players in the world, unless they buy a defence, they are going to win sod all.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:55:52
Think it is a good time to sell him he was not as strong or as influential for the team last season as he was before.  They probably realise this is the last time they will command a fee of this size for him and if he wants to go then they will cash in.

As far as players coming in I would say Valencia at Wigan is a given he is similar to Ronaldo when he arrived lots of potential, plus with Real Madrid being Uniteds main rivals for his signature I am guessing they will now not go for Valencia as there signing Ronaldo.  Other players I would expect them to go for are Ribery and Benzema, should be interesting.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:56:13
Real Madrid have the support of the government types because of the amount of money they bring into the city therefore bailing them out several times.

Many other teams with their debts would have gone a long time ago.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 09:57:17
At least it'll stop the 'Is he going to Madrid?' question all summer.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 10:02:41
At least it'll stop the 'Is he going to Madrid?' question all summer.

It was Patrick Vieira before (and a summer of Steven Gerrard) - I wonder who'll be next? Torres?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:01:49
All the United fans are slagging him off alreaday, ace. :D

Oh how awful for them eh?  It's not often Utd fans get an idea of what it's really like to follow a football team, Ronaldo was always destined to play for Real and would have been there a long time ago if Utd hadn't signed him.  He's won everything he can at Utd and they should let him move on to a new challenge.

Assuming this all goes through Utd will have made nearly £70m in profit on one player, I wonder if we've turned that over in the last 15-20 years?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:03:46
good move for all concerned really.
i'd go for ribery if i were fergie


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:11:09
In modern football, it has been rare for England to have a genuinely world class player within it's leagues. I believe Cristiano Ronaldo was the Premiership player to win the World Player of the Year award for example. Italy and Spain have always had that class of footballer.

Perhaps this is because so few of our best players refuse to test themselves in La Liga or Serie A?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:13:58
if it happens, it would mean lord ferg would have about 110 million to spend.

Isn't Tevez on loan to United, so no fee goes to them? Or have I missed something.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:15:43
Perhaps Ferguson already had a £30 million budget pre-Ronaldo sale (if it happens).


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:19:56
Isn't Tevez on loan to United, so no fee goes to them? Or have I missed something.

Correctomundo


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Gazza's Fat Mate on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:48:21
good bye, mother fucking cunt!!!!  :bye: :bye:


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:53:09
Ronaldo, at first, will be a loss to English football.

But like every high profile footballer to leave in modern times, fans and clubs have got over it.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:10:26
Ronaldo to Real for £80m?  Nice piece of business for Mr Glazer.  But rarely has a headline made me more grateful of being a Swindon fan.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: jonny72 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 13:34:45
Someone made a good point on the BBC website, for another £20m Real Madrid could have bought Newcastle United. Crazy money and Man Utd would be stupid to turn it down - no player is worth that and I can't see them ever recouping the £80m and his £10m a year salary through merchandise.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 15:06:27
Wouldn't it be funny if he played 1 game and then got an injury that kept him out for the season...oh how I would laugh


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 15:18:22
All the United fans are slagging him off alreaday, ace. :D

Oh dear, my 13 year old Brother's facebook status is: "BYE BYE Ronaldo, im saying that and i support Man Utd, Glad hes gone, we will still be best + He might not accept the contract Real offer haha But he will because hes in it for the money just like everyone and he wont make Real Madrid any better".

I think I need to knock some sense into him.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 15:33:13
Oh dear, my 13 year old Brother's facebook status is: "BYE BYE Ronaldo, im saying that and i support Man Utd, Glad hes gone, we will still be best + He might not accept the contract Real offer haha But he will because hes in it for the money just like everyone and he wont make Real Madrid any better".

I think I need to knock some sense into him.

Ha Ha

I just read that too


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 15:52:48
Oh dear, my 13 year old Brother's facebook status is: "BYE BYE Ronaldo, im saying that and i support Man Utd, Glad hes gone, we will still be best + He might not accept the contract Real offer haha But he will because hes in it for the money just like everyone and he wont make Real Madrid any better".

I think I need to knock some sense into him.
Or get him a job as a presenter on talkShite


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 15:56:39
why are people saying this is good business? so u get the £80m yet there is a player on the planet u can get who can come close to replacing him, if Ronaldo didnt want to leave im confident Utd would turn down this bid


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 16:05:37
why are people saying this is good business? so u get the £80m yet there is a player on the planet u can get who can come close to replacing him, if Ronaldo didnt want to leave im confident Utd would turn down this bid

I don't follow your point?  Yes Ronaldo wanted to go, why not too - Madrid's one of the best cities in the world.

How can you say it isn't good business?  OK they'll miss him but will his departure ruin Utd's chances of retaining the Prem or having another good bash at the CL?  Not at all, Fergie has had three or four fantastic teams up there, this one is one of the best, yes he's one of the top three players in the world but the other ten players that stepped out on to the pitch with hime in the last few years are pretty decent too. 

80m for one player is extroadinary and Utd can use that to buy up 3 or 4 new wonderkids if they want now.  They'll be able to find a very able replacement for half the money, how is that not good business?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 17:09:02
One cheating cunt less in England!


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 17:16:09
so u get the £80m yet there is a player on the planet u can get who can come close to replacing him

Franck Ribery says hi.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 17:22:51
Ribery isn't in the same class as Ronaldo


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 17:26:08
Probably only Messi and Kaka are, does that make everyone else crap?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: michael on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 17:27:14
It may as well be £500m because there is no way you can replace the world's best player.

Also, I think that people in this country hate Ronaldo because he looks like he might be gay.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Leggett on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 17:40:24
and the fact he's a right royal cunt might have just a tiiiiiiiiiiny ammount to do with it michael...


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Batch on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 17:49:46
You can replace him, just not in a 1 to 1 swap.

In a strange way if United get the right two or three good players in they may end up even stronger. The problem they have is they also need to replace the ageing Neville, Giggs and Scholes and remove the sub standard like O'Shea


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 17:53:36
Has Platini condemned the move as obscene yet?

Or is it OK for Madrid to spend stupid money that they don't have, compared to Man City spending stupid money that they do?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:01:17
diving cunt, good last season, not this, his stock was only likely to go down! Ribery to Man U?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:03:25
diving cunt, good last season, not this, his stock was only likely to go down! Ribery to Man U?

not good this season? he was injured for the 1sr few months of the season and was joint top scorer in the league until the last day (in which he didnt play and anelka did)


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:04:02
Ribery isn't in the same class as Ronaldo

No your right, Ribery performs in the big games


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: adje on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:05:11
It will be great picking up the papers and not seeing his punchable face


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: michael on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:05:31
But Ribery is a Bayern Munich player, so doesn't play in big games.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:08:13
im sure i heard today that Ribery has scored 40 odd goals in his whole domestic career, Ronaldo done that in 1 season


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:13:07
I'd rather have a Steven Gerrard in my team than a Ronaldo.
So over rated.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:14:48
how is he over rated? he scores more than Gerrard, quicker, more skillful, better at set pieces and better in the air, Gerrard is better in the tackle, thats all id say


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:16:15
Gerrard is tougher in the head


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: axs on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:17:50
Gerrard is tougher in the head

Lets test that by getting them to stand still while Remi Gulluird or whatever his name is kicks stuff at them.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:22:15
how is he over rated? he scores more than Gerrard, quicker, more skillful, better at set pieces and better in the air, Gerrard is better in the tackle, thats all id say
How can you say he's not over rated?
He'd fall over if fucking Zippy or Bungle tackled him.
Yes, he can do a few step overs, and scores a few goals, but I would still choose Gerrard over Ronaldo.
He can't play in big games, and is a stroppy, cheating cunt.
He's also shit at penalties.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: michael on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:25:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVb2gbMtN3I


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:28:47
He's English though.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: michael on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 18:29:56
And he doesn't look like he might be gay


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 19:12:58
why are people saying this is good business? so u get the £80m yet there is a player on the planet u can get who can come close to replacing him, if Ronaldo didnt want to leave im confident Utd would turn down this bid

Its good business because yes they lose a fantastic player but if they replace him with 3 great players then they will become a better team for it and will not have to rely on one outstanding talent as they did the season before this, will probably mean that Rooney will play up front more as well. 

When United got rid of Cantona, Stam, Keane Van Nistelrooy and Beckham people said what on earth were they doing and they would struggle the next year but Fergie found players just as good and United came back just as strong.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: nevillew on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 19:13:35
Ferguson usually knows when to let someone move on - don't seem to be fighting so hard to keep him this year do they ?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 19:33:19
Ferguson usually knows when to let someone move on - don't seem to be fighting so hard to keep him this year do they ?

Its a fair point Nev the United team were not as reliant on him last season as the season before and I think Fergie realises this will be the last season they could get an amount as high as this for him.  If he was to go out sign Valencia, Benzema and Ribery now that would be amazing business.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 19:39:18
Good deal for Real Madird,  should be able to recoup that money pretty quickly and make a nice tidy profit on the players

With players like Kaka and Ronaldo in your side,  American and Japanease teams will be willing to pay mega bucks to host a friendly against these sides.

Was reading in the paper that Madrid a couple of years back got £7 million for one friendly game in Japan


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 19:48:12
Im glad the petulant cunt fucker is being sold. That is all.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: nevillew on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 19:58:46
Good deal for Real Madird,  should be able to recoup that money pretty quickly and make a nice tidy profit on the players

With players like Kaka and Ronaldo in your side,  American and Japanease teams will be willing to pay mega bucks to host a friendly against these sides.

Was reading in the paper that Madrid a couple of years back got £7 million for one friendly game in Japan

So, only 19 friendlies and they've got the Kaka and Ronaldo money back ? how's the financial advisory business going ?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 20:17:10
Man Utd are going to have to have a big reshuffle as a result because they've built their whole attack around Ronaldo.

Vidic may want shot of the red devils soon as well.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: adje on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 20:26:30
Im glad the petulant cunt fucker is being sold. That is all.

Ah,but is he a "cunt-fucker"?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Posh Red on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 20:30:30
Vidic may want shot of the red devils soon as well.

based on his performance against top class strikers (Liverpool & Barcelona), that may not be a bad thing for Man Ure


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:12:57
yes the guy is a cunt, hes a cheat and a smug cunt cant be forgiven for the rooney incident blah blah blah, but that doesnt change that fact that he is the best player (maybe 2nd best) in the world, regardless of what hes done in the pass no one can deny the fact he is a world class player.
That said, 1 player does not make a team, admititly he will be missed, but i think man u have enought abuot them to cope,
Ok ribery is not in the same class as ronaldo and messi but in the premiership he has enough quality and alility to do what is needed. (assuming man u get him)


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:40:03
I think how utd spend this money is a big indication of what Glaziers intentions will be. Utd will probably just play 442 next year with rooney up top more. Agree with chubbs he is a great player but would not be in my top 3.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:41:19
why do people hate him so much? cos he dives? most players have dived Gerrard Owen and Joe Cole are prolific divers aswell! must be jealousy, that hes the best in the world has the money and girlfriends etc


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:43:45
He's not the best in the world. Messi is better than him.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:45:13
He's not the best in the world. Messi is better than him.

i disagree


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:46:38
why do people hate him so much? cos he dives? most players have dived Gerrard Owen and Joe Cole are prolific divers aswell! must be jealousy, that hes the best in the world has the money and girlfriends etc

I don't actually hate him - he's too good to hate.  I used to for obvious reasons but I got over it.  You surely have to concede though that he is a bit (a lot) of a dick?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:48:22
i disagree

In the CL final Messi looked a class above and actually had the right attitude and stayed on his feet etc.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:48:25
i think he has a big of arrogance about him, the best players usually have, i quite like him


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Chubbs on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:54:13
i also dissagree, does anyone here watch la liga week in week out? you cant compare a player who you see a few clips of  on youtube(which are notably his best bits) against someone who you see week in week out, good bad and ugly
there isnt much difference between the two but you need to take into account the opposition aswell, the only world class oposition they play agains are real madrid, and then you have the the good teams such as valencia, at madrid and sevilla, the rest are lower end prem top end champ level at best. i think now they will be both playing in the same league, a beter comparison can be made


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: JPC82 on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 21:56:24
Messi has showed in 10 previous games against british teams that he has really struggled, the final he done ok and got his goal, other than that hes been poor, we will soon see if Ronaldo can tear up La Liga like Messi has, i have no doubts he will


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 22:02:37
Of course he will, Robinho was one of the best players in La Liga at Real, Ronaldo is better, no question.

Will be interesting seeing him in a 'Galactico' team where he isn't necessarily the star attraction though.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: yeo on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 22:25:46
I miss him :(


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 22:31:22
Apart from the fact that it's probably the right time for Utd to cash in on Ronaldo anyway - as someone else said, he clearly wants to go and they'll not get that kind of money for him even in Jan - it's possible they need to sell to fund replenishing the squad. Thanks to the Glazers' generously loading the cost of their massively leveraged takeover onto the club, Man Utd are massively in debt - they're making good operating profits but having to spend nearly all of it just on servicing the interest payments (they're not even close to even starting to pay off any of the capital). They're not as bad as Liverpool, but if the TV deal shrinks radically next time its up for renewal they could both be in a lot of trouble


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 22:35:23
They're not as bad as Liverpool, but if the TV deal shrinks radically next time its up for renewal they could both be in a lot of trouble

...and PL games played abroad will become a reality...


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 22:44:03
Apart from the fact that it's probably the right time for Utd to cash in on Ronaldo anyway - as someone else said, he clearly wants to go and they'll not get that kind of money for him even in Jan - it's possible they need to sell to fund replenishing the squad. Thanks to the Glazers' generously loading the cost of their massively leveraged takeover onto the club, Man Utd are massively in debt - they're making good operating profits but having to spend nearly all of it just on servicing the interest payments (they're not even close to even starting to pay off any of the capital). They're not as bad as Liverpool, but if the TV deal shrinks radically next time its up for renewal they could both be in a lot of trouble

Doubt they will ever really be in trouble there will be a que of Russians, Arabs and Americans around the block looking to buy a club that makes large profits every season.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Doore on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 22:57:44
To throw in my little bit, and trying to concentrate on the football side, I think this may result in united trying to use Rooney a lot further forward.  I understand the job he does covering back on the left, but surely to get the best out of him he needs to be playing off a front man, much like he now does with England.  I wouldn't be surprised to see him playing off Berbatov a lot more next year - and if united bring in a couple of wingers (Valencia, Ribery, Silva perhaps?) a slightly more 4-4-2 could be played.

Either way, of course, I don't care.  Just musing.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: pauld on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 22:58:32
Doubt they will ever really be in trouble there will be a que of Russians, Arabs and Americans around the block looking to buy a club that makes large profits every season.
I know, was just trying to cheer myself up


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: axs on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 23:47:47
why do people hate him so much? cos he dives? most players have dived Gerrard Owen and Joe Cole are prolific divers aswell! must be jealousy, that hes the best in the world has the money and girlfriends etc

Seriously?

Why?

CHEATING SMUG CUNT FULL STOP


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Doore on Thursday, June 11, 2009, 23:56:30
What I find interesting in the diving debate is that when a foreign player dives, it is cheating.  When a British player dives, it still seems to be acceptable to call this the "foreign influence".  We have had an influx of foreign players for a long time now.  I think we can wrongly hold our own players in higher regard, fair play wise, than they actually deserve.

Steve White at Wembley anyone?


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, June 12, 2009, 00:05:23
That's completely different, the resulting pen was good for Swindon not some globe trotting brand. :)


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, June 12, 2009, 00:27:26
What I find interesting in the diving debate is that when a foreign player dives, it is cheating.  When a British player dives, it still seems to be acceptable to call this the "foreign influence".  We have had an influx of foreign players for a long time now.  I think we can wrongly hold our own players in higher regard, fair play wise, than they actually deserve.

Steve White at Wembley anyone?
Coxy and Macca got quite a lot of abuse from the Town fans last season for going down too easily.

I'll admit the reaction is different though. When it's a foreign player I tend to call them a cheat and get angry, and when it's an English player I tend to feel a bit embarassed about the game if I'm honest. I still think it's wrong no matter who does it though


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, June 12, 2009, 00:34:22
I hate Ronaldo's petulance more than anything. If he just got on with the game and used his abilities rather than create all his nancy boy drama then I wouldn't dislike him so much.

Gerrard has dived before and will no doubt do it again. I don't like diving but I like Gerrard because he roles up his sleeves and gets on with things and that's why he can be a matchwinner. Ronaldo has gobbed off, lashed out and behaved like a child on too many occassions.

Rooney's much like Ronaldo. You could forgive him for being a teenager and hungry for the game but he should be beyond it now.


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, June 12, 2009, 00:46:51
I hate Ronaldo's petulance more than anything. If he just got on with the game and used his abilities rather than create all his nancy boy drama then I wouldn't dislike him so much.

Gerrard has dived before and will no doubt do it again. I don't like diving but I like Gerrard because he roles up his sleeves and gets on with things and that's why he can be a matchwinner. Ronaldo has gobbed off, lashed out and behaved like a child on too many occassions.

Rooney's much like Ronaldo. You could forgive him for being a teenager and hungry for the game but he should be beyond it now.
That's a good point, it's so much more than diving. It's the toys-out-of-the-pram scenarios that are most infuriating - he acts like he's about 4 years old at times


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: pauld on Friday, June 12, 2009, 00:57:20
Two stories today - £80m for Ronaldo, and Setanta struggling to survive due to over comitting themsleves on TV rights for PL/SPL/Conf rights, the bulk of it in the PL but now in talks with new investors. What's the betting they emerge with new investment, pay the PL but stiff the SPL and Conference, driving several "lesser" clubs to the wall, like IOU Digital did for the Football League. The Premiership is eating football


Title: Re: £80m for ronaldo
Post by: lambourn red on Friday, June 12, 2009, 06:42:49
I hate Ronaldo's petulance more than anything. If he just got on with the game and used his abilities rather than create all his nancy boy drama then I wouldn't dislike him so much.

Gerrard has dived before and will no doubt do it again. I don't like diving but I like Gerrard because he roles up his sleeves and gets on with things and that's why he can be a matchwinner. Ronaldo has gobbed off, lashed out and behaved like a child on too many occassions.

Rooney's much like Ronaldo. You could forgive him for being a teenager and hungry for the game but he should be beyond it now.

Neither of them are in the same league as the world 10m board diving champion Mr Didier Drogba now that is a cheating CUNT