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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:14:39 »

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A motherboard is the heart of the computer which allows you to connect things to it (e.g. hard drive). The processor and the memory are components of a working motherboard. The problem is that a motherboard may not be able to handle a bigger processor so an upgrade of both may be necessary. Now this poses another problem. Because you have a Dell, you may not be able to fit a different type of motherboard in your machine. Before continuing this fascinatingly geeky prose - why do you want to upgrade your motherboard/processor. If your PC is getting slow it may mean you need more memory (RAM) not processor speed.


now i may not be a sad computer geek face like Si but i actually know that  :shock:


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« Reply #16 on: Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:16:08 »

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Quote from: "Rich"
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A motherboard is the heart of the computer which allows you to connect things to it (e.g. hard drive). The processor and the memory are components of a working motherboard. The problem is that a motherboard may not be able to handle a bigger processor so an upgrade of both may be necessary. Now this poses another problem. Because you have a Dell, you may not be able to fit a different type of motherboard in your machine. Before continuing this fascinatingly geeky prose - why do you want to upgrade your motherboard/processor. If your PC is getting slow it may mean you need more memory (RAM) not processor speed.


now i may not be a sad computer geek face like Si but i actually know that  :shock:



and whos the geek that learnt HTML coding all by himself in a week?  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:20:44 »

And who's got cock on his breath?

Answer: You
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday, February 5, 2006, 19:22:48 »

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And who's got cock on his breath?

Answer: You



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« Reply #19 on: Monday, February 6, 2006, 11:56:49 »

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You have 512MB of Ram - upping this to either 1 or 2 gig will speed things up a lot, and is a damn site cheaper than new mobo and processor (under a ton)!

Also, dell are sneaky fucks, you'll probably find it hard to get a mobo that fits in their case, they usually build their PC's to spec and build them in such a way that makes it almost impossible to upgrade them.

Also, for £350 - you can get a whole new PC - I build them for under £300 with minimum of 1GB RAM, AMD 3GHZ processor, 80GB HD etc etc etc...

Plus, if you buy that mobo you'll probably find the existing RAM you have wont work in it, so you'll be spending more cash on RAM...


But he has 1gb already. I have a hunch that he has onboard graphics (integrated) which could explain the slowness.


i do yes and have no way of knowing how to get rid of them.

everytime i go into System devices it is there. i have dissabled it but when i delete it or ask it to uninstall the minute i start my machine up again it tells me it has found new hardware etc and re-installs it. really annoying
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« Reply #20 on: Monday, February 6, 2006, 19:20:22 »

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Firstly, before you fork out a shit load of money there are a few things you need to do. If, for instance a bit of spyware/adware/a virus/or a legit program is causing the problem, an upgrade of hardware will make little difference.


Download hijack this and run it (do a system scan and save log file). It will give you a text document that is far from plain english. Copy all of the text from the text file and paste it into this forum. I will see if you have any issues with running processes.

http://www.mmdirect.de/downloads/hijackthis_199.zip

Next - have you defragmented your hard drive recently? If no do so. If you don't know how to just ask me in a reply. Also what size hard drive do you have and how much free space is left?

If answer those questions I will see if there is anything you can do. You have a lot of free memory left, although you are using half, which is a worry. My suspicions are that you have too much running in the background. But we'll address that after the hijack this thing is done.


this is what the report gave.

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 19:18:45, on 06/02/2006
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\bin\btwdins.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcdetect.exe
c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mctskshd.exe
c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsrte.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MPFSERVICE.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKSrvr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ScsiAccess.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\UAService7.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcshield.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\BTYAHO~3\SMARTB~1\BTHelpNotifier.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsshld.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKAgent.exe
C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe
c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcagent.exe
c:\progra~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsescn.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\DVDLauncher.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\Modem Event Monitor\IntelMEM.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\McAfee Shared Components\Guardian\CMGrdian.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\mps\mscifapp.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ybrwicon.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfAgent.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\YOP\yop.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ycommon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Creative\MediaSource\Detector\CTDetect.exe
C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\BTTray.exe
C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\BTStackServer.exe
C:\Program Files\BT Yahoo! Help\bin\mpbtn.exe
C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\browser\ybrowser.exe
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe
C:\Program Files\WinRAR\WinRAR.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\OWNER~1.HOM\LOCALS~1\Temp\Rar$EX00.750\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://uk.red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/btyahoo/defaults/sb/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/info/bt_side.html
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://uk.red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/btyahoo/defaults/sp/*http://uk.search.yahoo.com/
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://home.bt.yahoo.com/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://home.bt.yahoo.com
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://uk.red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/btyahoo/defaults/su/*http://uk.search.yahoo.com/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar = http://uk.red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/btyahoo/defaults/sb/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/info/bt_side.html
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://uk.red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/btyahoo/defaults/sp/*http://uk.search.yahoo.com/
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://home.bt.yahoo.com
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant = http://torrentsearcher.filesharingplace.com/ie/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) = http://uk.red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/btyahoo/defaults/su/*http://uk.search.yahoo.com/
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: McBrwHelper Class - {227B8AA8-DAF2-4892-BD1D-73F568BCB24E} - c:\program files\mcafee.com\mps\mcbrhlpr.dll
O2 - BHO: McAfee Privacy Service Popup Blocker - {3EC8255F-E043-4cae-8B3B-B191550C2A22} - c:\program files\mcafee.com\mps\popupkiller.dll
O2 - BHO: UberButton Class - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\common\yiesrvc.dll
O2 - BHO: YahooTaggedBM Class - {65D886A2-7CA7-479B-BB95-14D1EFB7946A} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\common\YIeTagBm.dll
O2 - BHO: SidebarAutoLaunch Class - {F2AA9440-6328-4933-B7C9-A6CCDF9CBF6D} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\browser\YSidebarIEBHO.dll
O3 - Toolbar: McAfee VirusScan - {BA52B914-B692-46c4-B683-905236F6F655} - c:\progra~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsshl.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Yahoo! Toolbar - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Companion\Installs\cpn0\yt.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Motive SmartBridge] C:\PROGRA~1\BTYAHO~3\SMARTB~1\BTHelpNotifier.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BluetoothAuthenticationAgent] rundll32.exe bthprops.cpl,,BluetoothAuthenticationAgent
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMAXPnP] C:\Program Files\Analog Devices\Core\smax4pnp.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MSKDetectorExe] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MskDetct.exe /startup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [VirusScan Online] "c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsshld.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [VSOCheckTask] "c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcmnhdlr.exe" /checktask
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MSKAGENTEXE] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKAgent.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SpeedTouch USB Diagnostics] "C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe" /icon
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [UpdateManager] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Sonic\Update Manager\sgtray.exe" /r
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MPFTray] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MCUpdateExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mcupdate.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MCAgentExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mcagent.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DVDLauncher] "C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\DVDLauncher.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IgfxTray] C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxtray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IntelMeM] C:\Program Files\Intel\Modem Event Monitor\IntelMEM.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMixerTray] C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvMixer\NvMixerTray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [McAfee Guardian] C:\Program Files\McAfee\McAfee Shared Components\Guardian\CMGrdian.exe /SU
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MPFExe] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MpfTray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MPSExe] c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\mps\mscifapp.exe /embedding
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [YBrowser] C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ybrwicon.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe"  -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [YOP] C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\YOP\yop.exe /autostart
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroFilterCheck] C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSKAGENTEXE] C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKAgent.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Creative Detector] "C:\Program Files\Creative\MediaSource\Detector\CTDetect.exe" /R
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk = C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe
O4 - Global Startup: BT Yahoo! Help.lnk = C:\Program Files\BT Yahoo! Help\bin\matcli.exe
O4 - Global Startup: BTTray.lnk = ?
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra button: BT Yahoo! Services - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\common\yiesrvc.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: @btrez.dll,-4015 - {CCA281CA-C863-46ef-9331-5C8D4460577F} - C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\btsendto_ie.htm
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @btrez.dll,-4017 - {CCA281CA-C863-46ef-9331-5C8D4460577F} - C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\btsendto_ie.htm
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://www.labatidora.net
O16 - DPF: {01A88BB1-1174-41EC-ACCB-963509EAE56B} (SysProWmi Class) - http://support.euro.dell.com/systemprofiler/SysPro.CAB
O16 - DPF: {0A5FD7C5-A45C-49FC-ADB5-9952547D5715} (Creative Software AutoUpdate) - http://www.creative.com/su/ocx/15015/CTSUEng.cab
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {1803B9EF-9905-4F34-AFC4-05D1BAB28801} (RegUserCfgUI Class) - http://us.dl1.yimg.com/download.yahoo.com/dl/controls/yregucfg/2005_6_10_1/yregucfg.cab
O16 - DPF: {4ED9DDF0-7479-4BBE-9335-5A1EDB1D8A21} (McAfee.com Operating System Class) - http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/shared/mcinsctl/en-gb/4,0,0,83/mcinsctl.cab
O16 - DPF: {5F0C30E4-1E72-4DCC-85E5-57810F1CA97B} (McUpdatePortalFactory Class) - http://www.amiuptodate.com/vsc/bin/1,0,0,8/McUpdatePortal.cab
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1125865506703
O16 - DPF: {85D1F3B2-2A21-11D7-97B9-0010DC2A6243} (SecureLogin class) - http://secure2.comned.com/signuptemplates/securelogin-devel.cab
O16 - DPF: {8FCDF9D9-A28B-480F-8C3D-581F119A8AB8} - http://static.zangocash.com/cab/Zango/ie/bridge-c10.cab
O16 - DPF: {BCC0FF27-31D9-4614-A68E-C18E1ADA4389} (DwnldGroupMgr Class) - http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/shared/mcgdmgr/en-gb/1,0,0,20/mcgdmgr.cab
O16 - DPF: {F6ACF75C-C32C-447B-9BEF-46B766368D29} (Creative Software AutoUpdate Support Package) - http://www.creative.com/su/ocx/15016/CTPID.cab
O16 - DPF: {FF0F0013-0151-153A-A3C9-08032B55E0CD} - http://uk.global-acces.com/7adpower/nonadult.exe
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{9268F586-420E-491D-AE1F-DEF45E499456}: NameServer = 62.6.40.162 194.72.0.98
O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe Systems Shared\Service\Adobelmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Bluetooth Service (btwdins) - WIDCOMM, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Belkin\Bluetooth Software\bin\btwdins.exe
O23 - Service: Creative Service for CDROM Access - Creative Technology Ltd - C:\WINDOWS\system32\CTsvcCDA.EXE
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\1050\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee WSC Integration (McDetect.exe) - McAfee, Inc - c:\program files\mcafee.com\agent\mcdetect.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee.com McShield (McShield) - Unknown owner - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcshield.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee Task Scheduler (McTskshd.exe) - McAfee, Inc - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\agent\mctskshd.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee SecurityCenter Update Manager (mcupdmgr.exe) - McAfee, Inc - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\Agent\mcupdmgr.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee.com VirusScan Online Realtime Engine (MCVSRte) - McAfee, Inc - c:\PROGRA~1\mcafee.com\vso\mcvsrte.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee Personal Firewall Service (MpfService) - McAfee Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee.com\PERSON~1\MPFSERVICE.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee SpamKiller Server (MskService) - McAfee Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MSKSrvr.exe
O23 - Service: NVIDIA Display Driver Service (NVSvc) - NVIDIA Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
O23 - Service: ScsiAccess - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\ScsiAccess.EXE
O23 - Service: SecuROM User Access Service (V7) (UserAccess7) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\system32\UAService7.exe
O23 - Service: YPCService - Yahoo! Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\YPCSER~1.EXE
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STFC Village

« Reply #21 on: Monday, February 6, 2006, 19:23:25 »

I like to read all posts, but to be honest, i just skim read that one
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« Reply #22 on: Monday, February 6, 2006, 19:26:46 »

Quote from: "STFC Village"
I like to read all posts, but to be honest, i just skim read that one


 
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:12:39 »

Ok mate, apart from some active x controls that you might want to delete, you largely look ok. It also seems like you have a seperate graphics card which looks good. What hard drive do you have and how full is this (right click the c: in my computer and select properties to find out). It might be worth a defrag if you haven't already done so. When is your pc slow (playing games, upon startup, or just in general)?
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:17:40 »

Also it might be cos your driver for your graphics card is fucked, although it seems to be running ok. Go to start>all programs>accessories>system tools>system info>components>display
and then tell me what adapter type is.

p.s. village is gay and ignore him  :old:
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STFC Village

« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:19:46 »

Quote from: "simon pieman"
p.s. village is gay and ignore him  :old:
That isn't a valid reason to ignore someone, you fucking Homophobe
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:24:49 »

Fuck off queer boy, of course it is a valid reason.

p.s. If you really are gay I really mean it  :|
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STFC Village

« Reply #27 on: Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:27:52 »

I'm not really a ghey, i'm just sticking up for Walrus and Sussex, as they say that your homophobic attitude makes them cry.

Personally, i think they're a pair of cock smokers
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:29:34 »

Sorry sussex and walrus. Not really of course - the power of suggestion.
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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday, February 7, 2006, 00:39:25 »

Homo's have feelings too  :|
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