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McLovin

« Reply #15 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 09:24:27 »

We'll take 5 strikers, but won't try any of the sub ones out properly, so when Rooney or Owen are suspended or injured, their replacements will not be confident in filling their shoes, as is Sven's usual friendly tactics.
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 09:54:59 »

Squad for 2002 World Cup
 1 SEAMAN David (GK)
 2 MILLS Danny
 3 COLE Ashley - *
 4 SINCLAIR Trevor
 5 FERDINAND Rio - *
 6 CAMPBELL Sol - *
 7 BECKHAM David - *
 8 SCHOLES Paul
 9 FOWLER Robbie
 10 OWEN Michael - *
 11 HESKEY Emile
 12 BROWN Wes
 13 MARTYN Nigel (GK)
 14 BRIDGE Wayne
 15 KEOWN Martin
 16 SOUTHGATE Gareth
 17 SHERINGHAM Teddy
 18 HARGREAVES Owen
 19 COLE Joe - *
 20 VASSELL Darius
 21 BUTT Nicky
 22 JAMES David (GK)
 23 DYER Kieron

That's 3 Goalkeepers, 8 defenders, 7 midfielders, 5 strikers
So it seems we may take another striker...and Vassell has the experience of 2002

The starred players are the only ones we're likely to take this time...only 6 players out of 23 with experience... :shock:
G Neville should have been there but was injured - The attack of the Meta-Tarsels (remember Beckhams foot on the front of the Sun  Oops )

Neville, Owen, Beckham, Campbell and Ferdinand survive from the 1998 squad, but Ferdinand was a non-playing squad member at the time.
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 11:11:46 »

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Carrick is a good shout for the squad

NO WAY Crouch tho

Bent or Vassell - interesting call to make

NO WAY Taylor over Young every time

Barry over Thompson tho - maybe u are right there

BUT - Chris Sutton is a much more experienced player and I think would be a useful surprise to have on the bench Cool


Sutton and no Crouch. :roll:  :jaw1:
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« Reply #18 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 11:47:43 »

Paul Robinson
Chris Kirkland

Neville
Young
Campbell
Terry
Ferdinand
Carragher
Cole
Bridge

Beckham
Wright-Phillips
Gerrard
Lampard
Carrick
Parker
King
Murphy
Cole

Owen
Rooney
Defoe
Sheringham


Thats the squad I'd pick
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 12:01:45 »

The strikers we should take if fit are: Rooney, Owen, Crouch, Defoe and Bent. Basically exactly the ones we're using now, to be fair to Sven he generally picks a good squad.
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 12:25:35 »

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The strikers we should take if fit are: Rooney, Owen, Crouch, Defoe and Bent. Basically exactly the ones we're using now, to be fair to Sven he generally picks a good squad.


I feel Owen, Bent and Defore are all too similair. The small quick type plus Bent, Defoe and Crouch dont have alot of expirence up front.

We saw at euro2004 we were a different team without Rooney, he drops off and picks up the ball and he is very intelligent player. The only possible replacement like for like (ish) is Sheringham. Again look what happened at Euro2004 when we lost Rooney.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 12:30:56 »

I think Bent is more like shearer, not as big but fast, good in the air, powerful, not small and nippy like Own and Defoe, an excellent finisher from range also.
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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 13:03:08 »

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Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
The strikers we should take if fit are: Rooney, Owen, Crouch, Defoe and Bent. Basically exactly the ones we're using now, to be fair to Sven he generally picks a good squad.


I feel Owen, Bent and Defore are all too similair. The small quick type plus Bent, Defoe and Crouch dont have alot of expirence up front.

We saw at euro2004 we were a different team without Rooney, he drops off and picks up the ball and he is very intelligent player. The only possible replacement like for like (ish) is Sheringham. Again look what happened at Euro2004 when we lost Rooney.


That's where I see Dyer as possibility.

Plus he should get some experience of playing just off Owen at some point this season.
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 13:04:54 »

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The strikers we should take if fit are: Rooney, Owen, Crouch, Defoe and Bent. Basically exactly the ones we're using now, to be fair to Sven he generally picks a good squad.


I feel Owen, Bent and Defore are all too similair. The small quick type plus Bent, Defoe and Crouch dont have alot of expirence up front.

We saw at euro2004 we were a different team without Rooney, he drops off and picks up the ball and he is very intelligent player. The only possible replacement like for like (ish) is Sheringham. Again look what happened at Euro2004 when we lost Rooney.


That's where I see Dyer as possibility.

Plus he should get some experience of playing just off Owen at some point this season.


Sadly, Dyer lives up to his name....
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McLovin

« Reply #24 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 13:08:43 »

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I feel Owen, Bent and Defore are all too similair. The small quick type plus Bent, Defoe and Crouch dont have alot of expirence up front.


They will never gain experience as long as Sven is in charge, they rarely get 90 minutes internationally.

I never buy the 'too similar' excuse either.  Quality strikers, with quality service will score goals, be it two target men or short arses.
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« Reply #25 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 13:12:56 »

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The strikers we should take if fit are: Rooney, Owen, Crouch, Defoe and Bent. Basically exactly the ones we're using now, to be fair to Sven he generally picks a good squad.


I feel Owen, Bent and Defore are all too similair.


That's why we need Crouch.
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« Reply #26 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 13:15:56 »

Who gives a toss?We've got a relegation to contend with!!!I cant be thinking about England.
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 19:34:21 »

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Why was Alan Smith in the squad.  He's no longer a striker and has a handful of matches for Man Utd in a new position, yet gets in ahead of Carrick, Parker etc (Although am I right that at least one of these two is injured?).  Also Smith's international career hasn't exactly been illustrious, to sya the least, typical big club bias methinks, poor old Danny Murphy has been so much better than Smith.


According to teletext Sven is lookig to try Smith in midfield! :shock: :nuts:
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 19:36:48 »

I'd take Teddy Sheringham so we've got the obligatory serial shagger who everyone loves
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, October 13, 2005, 19:38:57 »

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I'd take Teddy Sheringham so we've got the obligatory serial shagger who everyone loves


Plus he can play a bit of football aswell.....
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