The Spirit of '69 and our Day of Action

[No Longer Posh Red]

Thing is I don’t want an anonymous American consortium owning my club. American’s are fruit loops and don’t understand football - look at Carlisle.

Or Liverpool 🤷🏼‍♂️

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Off the pitch i'd a million % rather be Carlisle with their owners. They've just gotten it horribly wrong on the pitch.

We got lucky that Holloway is massively pulling out of the shit after Clem/Zav/Hart or whoever actually appoints the managers fucked it up with Kennedy.

I firmly believe we'd be below Carlisle now if we stuck with Kennedy or made a similar appointment.

and before anyone tries to give Clem and co some huge credit for appointing Holloway, imagine the shit we'd be in if Ollie was from Cumbria or southern scotland or something.

[horlock07]

and before anyone tries to give Clem and co some huge credit for appointing Holloway, imagine the shit we'd be in if Ollie was from Cumbria or southern scotland or something.

Fuck off with that, the position of whimsical west country yokel in Cumbria is already taken! 

[iParadise]

Thing is I don’t want an anonymous American consortium owning my club. American’s are fruit loops and don’t understand football - look at Carlisle.

https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/new-training-facility-lease-agreed

Investment.

Meanwhile, we're training leisure centre.

[horlock07]

https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/new-training-facility-lease-agreed

Investment.

Meanwhile, we're training leisure centre.

Don't get too carried away, Sheep Mount is basically an athletics track with football pitches run as a leisure facility by the Council via a third party contractor. What CUFC have done is take a lease on a small bit of it and laid out two pitches for their (and community use).

[DV]

Assuming what I read about Carlisle is true (as shown above it’s easy to exaggerate & make things sound a lot more positive than it is)

…then the feel like they are very much in a ‘short term pain, long term gain’ phase.

The infrastructure is being invested it. The playing squad is being invested in. Seeds have been planted.


Us, on the other hand we’re slowly plodding along towards death. We are just ‘lucky’ that the Holloway pills we are taking has *hopefully* put that death off for at least another year.

[Bob1978]

Assuming what I read about Carlisle is true (as shown above it’s easy to exaggerate & make things sound a lot more positive than it is)

…then the feel like they are very much in a ‘short term pain, long term gain’ phase.

The infrastructure is being invested it. The playing squad is being invested in. Seeds have been planted.


Us, on the other hand we’re slowly plodding along towards death. We are just ‘lucky’ that the Holloway pills we are taking has *hopefully* put that death off for at least another year.

Well at the moment they are looking at back to back relegations and non league football - that’s some short term pain.

[Crispy]

Where are the board room windows?

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

Where are the board room windows?

Above players entrance, middle of arkells.

[4D]

Well at the moment they are looking at back to back relegations and non league football - that’s some short term pain.

Sounds similar to us 

[Berniman]

Well at the moment they are looking at back to back relegations and non league football - that’s some short term pain.

That's the point, they are in the same situation as us but..  they are trying to do something about it as their investments and transfer dealings show.  Our version of that was hire a manager (to fix the fuck ups of the past few seasons) and hope he is capable of pulling something out of his rear orifice, and keep us up above the dotted line.

The difference is, they are investing and recruiting to put themselves in the best position to ensure that this isn't repeated again, whereas we are sticking our fingers in the dam that is holding back the National League, and we have been for the past 2 seasons at least. Morfuni only has a limited amount of fingers before it gives way, Carlisle don't.

[Jimmy Quinn]

Wiltshire Police are aware of our plans.

Let’s hope recent history between the clubs doesn’t mar the occasion as their sure to bring a large following considering their league position.

[Pericardinho]

Speaking as somebody who was at the first protest, and who shall attend every one in the future if possible;

I do have concerns about the protest being post match.

It shouldn't matter what the result on the pitch is, however a 3-0 thumping win will 100% dampen the numbers and will raise the voices of the happy clappers with wool over their eyes, especially when they will be exiting the north stand.

Would it not have been better to pick another fixture where it could've been done pre match? too late now obviously.

Was the Port Vale game picked because we'd expect a higher gate? due to our 'rivalry'? hence anticipating more protest numbers

[Bob1978]

That's the point, they are in the same situation as us but..  they are trying to do something about it as their investments and transfer dealings show.  Our version of that was hire a manager (to fix the fuck ups of the past few seasons) and hope he is capable of pulling something out of his rear orifice, and keep us up above the dotted line.

The difference is, they are investing and recruiting to put themselves in the best position to ensure that this isn't repeated again, whereas we are sticking our fingers in the dam that is holding back the National League, and we have been for the past 2 seasons at least. Morfuni only has a limited amount of fingers before it gives way, Carlisle don't.

No Carlisle had a good manager in place at the start of the season Simpson - signed a sack load of players then promptly sacked him and appointed a manager who plays a style of football completely different to simpsons. They’ve now signed another sackful of players and if it doesn’t work out no doubt they will sack the manager. We’ve been a shambles and still are off the field but have a chance under Holloway. Probably need to give the owners a little bit of credit there.

[TheSpiritof69]

Speaking as somebody who was at the first protest, and who shall attend every one in the future if possible;

I do have concerns about the protest being post match.

It shouldn't matter what the result on the pitch is, however a 3-0 thumping win will 100% dampen the numbers and will raise the voices of the happy clappers with wool over their eyes, especially when they will be exiting the north stand.

Would it not have been better to pick another fixture where it could've been done pre match? too late now obviously.

Was the Port Vale game picked because we'd expect a higher gate? due to our 'rivalry'? hence anticipating more protest numbers

Thanks for the feedback.

The Port Vale game was picked mostly because it fell around the right time since the first one. We don't have an abundance of Saturday home games to pick from. It is also on TV. Personally speaking, I don't see it as being any more high profile than any other game, and Vale rarely travel anyway, but that's irrelevant.

Re your pre-match or post-match comments, firstly, it's an early KO, so pre-match is trickier. In our opinion, for the nature of the protest, post-match works better. There is no hard stop time-wise, there is no event that fans are drifting off to go to etc, and it'd also be extremely disruptive to match going town fans if we did this pre-match.

The result thing is a very valid point; rightly or wrongly we think that those who are strong enough in their will to protest won't be swayed by the result one way or another. I'd be very surprised if there are people whose decision to protest against the majority owner is swayed by whether we beat Port Vale or not.

Hope that explains some of the thought processes here.