The Spirit of '69 and our Day of Action

[swindonmaniac]

Holloway:

“I am asking everybody who enjoyed what they saw today to please come back and if you are not enjoying it then you have got a choice.

“If you don’t like me or the club or what we are doing then don’t come, I believe that I will get thousands who will come.

“If you are going to try and convince someone by giving them a free hat then I think that is an absolute load of nonsense".


Ian - it is not all about you. In fact, it as absolutely nothing - nothing whatsoever - to do with you.

But if I remember correctly he did say don’t blame the players blame me ?. Yet he kicks off even when no one is blaming him.  As already said he needs to look into what the protests are about.
The guy really can be a prick.

[4D]

Exactly. The protest is about the ownership, the football is a result of that too.

[Oaksey Moonraker]

I listened to the full interview and Holloway made some valid points that no club including Swindon has a divine right to be in the EFL, you have to earnt it and clubs can get into a downward spiral of negativity.

Then he goes full on Kurtan Mucklowe from This Country with his orange hat rant. Maybe he is trying a bit of siege mentality and I noticed the players like Bycroft, who has been dropped, all hugging him post game. Suggests the players like him.

[Audrey]

The negativity doesn’t come from results - it emanates from the boardroom with 4 years of continuing decline both on and off the pitch.

It comes from having convicted criminals associated with the club.

It comes from lies from the owner - shares etc

It comes from the revolving door of employees

It comes from crumbling infrastructure

It comes from continued failure to pay the bills.

It comes from EFL raps on the knuckles ad nauseum

It comes from a failure to even acknowledge any of the above.

[digby]

Holloway said he'd be happy to sit down and chat to the guy who 'had words' with him at Bradford. (whether he actually would is a matter of conjecture !).

So would it be an idea for someone from So69 to offer to sit down and explain the situation to him, so it's made clear that the protest has absolutely nothing to do with him, or the players 

[Robinz]

Digby,

I think I understand your post and in a perfect world your ideas could and possibly would work.

However, it is not a perfect world and Swindon's current position is far from becoming a win / win situation.

In technical terms STFC ( the whole club) has entered into a "spiraling mentality" situation where it is close to  losing control.

I am just like the next person on here... when it comes to knowing what will happen next. Who knows

In a previous life i was involved with electronic design and if this type of "loop" issue (positive feedback) happened generally you would want to shut everything down very fast. Hopefully understanding and learning what issues caused the melt down. This should have happened years ago at STFC.

An opportunity was lost last summer when large numbers of long term ST holders still purchased their tickets and continued to feed the monster. Suggest that was the time to bring change to the club.

My opinion of the current situation and trying to stay positive is. Spirit of 69 has started fantastically well and the Trust must join their band and continue to work together as one. Then to bring everything they genuinely and confidently known to be  true concerning the current owners to the public domain in the hope to educate the 80% of loyal supporters who for years after years to come will continue to buy STs. Explain, no tell them the reasons why they should NOT continue to finance these owners with their next seasons ST purchases.    

In the mean time every genuine Swindon supporter needs to do their part to help the club and encourage Ian Holloway and this team with the hope that they can survive the real possibility relegation.

Just hope its not to late. Happy Christmas to all.

[tans]

There unfortunatley seems to be an element of fans that beileve because you support the protests you are not a real fan. Im looking at you Weyman and Clarke.

[Dr Pierre Chang]

Only caught the last few minutes of the OSC ‘live’ last night.

I think it’s fair to say that given how pissed off Vic Morgan was about the inaccurate Charlie Austin hall of fame ‘omission’, that the OSC won’t be backing the protests any time soon 

[4D]

The "if you're not happy don't come" comment isn't exactly understanding is it.

[tans]

Only caught the last few minutes of the OSC ‘live’ last night.

I think it’s fair to say that given how pissed off Vic Morgan was about the inaccurate Charlie Austin hall of fame ‘omission’, that the OSC won’t be backing the protests any time soon 

What did he say?

[Batch]

The "if you're not happy don't come" comment isn't exactly understanding is it.

It's a stupid comment, not turning up directly effects the transfer budget.

[Dr Pierre Chang]

What did he say?

In a nutshell, at pains to point out it was nothing to do with the club and that the decision was made by him and others.

The topic was then shut down before Dan could reply.

Funnily enough, no mention of the other calendar entries!

[Robinz]

Guys
Strongly suggest you don't pick up on every word spoken and put your spin on it.
Keep to the narrative of educating the fans who are either unaware or don't want to know of the goings on at the club which is currently.killing it.
Remember PR wins wars.

[Bob1978]

I think it’s fair to say there are lots of different opinions and perspectives in the fan base - as lin as we all get behind the team which we did on Saturday then all is good.

[Bob's Orange]

There unfortunatley seems to be an element of fans that beileve because you support the protests you are not a real fan. Im looking at you Weyman and Clarke.

There is a guy in our WhatsApp Group who left Scotland at 1am to make the protests and the game on Saturday. He was saying he was chatting to some people who were against the protest including some fella that seemed to think he was the world's greatest fan because he had left wherever he lived at 6am and was giving it the 'I'm so loyal blah blah'. Needless to say he was quickly put in his place.