The Spirit of '69 and our Day of Action

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Guess who?
Look at the nose 

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

No we don't, what we do is actually think of something that is different and will really impact them, not more of the same which wont.

No problem when people have an opposing view but please back it up with an alternative proposal.
And?

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

I genuinely wonder what some of these cunts will do when Clem and co are gone, which lets face it they will be eventually.

Gareth Gillman was a huge Power supporter back in the day and he dissappeared off the face of the earth in terms of online presence after Power left. That is despite several people verifying he was a real person and Swindon fan from before Powers reign.

Some of these lot are definitely more Clem fans than they are Swindon fans.

[Robinz]

Please dont give this guy the time of day...

Every time you do you give him more energy to go on.

And Bob, on this occasion I must disagree with you. The protest must go on and hopefully more loyal supporters will see the way this club is currently being run especially obvious is the facilities at the County Ground.

The fear of the unknown will play on the owner (s) mind. It will only be then they will take the hint and understand they are not wanted here.

Remember there is a fine line in being classed as terrorist or a freedom fighter.

This protest needs to be seen as a problem solver and not a problem maker.  

COYMRs  

[RobertT]

I genuinely wonder what some of these cunts will do when Clem and co are gone, which lets face it they will be eventually.

Gareth Gillman was a huge Power supporter back in the day and he dissappeared off the face of the earth in terms of online presence after Power left. That is despite several people verifying he was a real person and Swindon fan from before Powers reign.

Some of these lot are definitely more Clem fans than they are Swindon fans.

For reasons that befuddle me, I think this is the odd Celebrity worshipping thing.  Similar to how fully functioning grown men get a bit star struck if they bump into a player in the real world!!!!  By the way, I count myself in this - I had a chat with an ex-pro/Manager yesterday and had a moment or two where I thought about how weird that was, before checking myself and reminding myself that I'm probably further up the career world than they are these days!

Same thing likely happens with club owners - special people, right?  Then if they give you the time of the day (Clem is good at that), you feel some real affinity, like you too are special somehow.

As I said, it befuddles me, but I am also victim to it.

The reason I find that odd is they are working for a shitty small business that turns over less than I had to find in Opex savings each budget round!

[jimbob]

I’d have been there Saturday to protest (was there for the first) but I’m heading straight off after the game to Wales for what’s left of the weekend. I wish you all the best. Think you’ve anticipated that numbers won’t be as big as the initial one so just hope it maintains some kind of momentum. A turnaround in results (nothing to do with how the club is being run) combined with an early kick off will often sway those that were originally 70/30 to 50/50 I’d expect so will be less numbers sadly. Our age of fan demographic is I’d say ‘older’ so think that also has an impact. Was interesting chatting to a Grimsby fan pre match who said their dislike for Holloway was more about him being an alleged crook that taking them down (they were doomed already he said?). Unless we can remove Clem and co I can see us being the BEB (Brown Envelope Brigade) for the 25/26 season with STFC continuing as their Trojan horse.

[McGurk's Missus]

I stopped reading what Angry James was saying after the first sentence as it seemed like he had a mouthful of ''someone's'' cock whilst he was writing it.

I only hope AFH didn't get too jealous.

Building a media presence like So69 are doing, is exactly what a competent group do in order to gain more reach, influence and highlight their plight. It might even be something that STFC's own owner{s} could learn from. In any case, AJ might be a bit jealous {despite having priority on BJ duties ahead of AFH} in terms of media skills/contacts. Terry has some great contacts in the industry so it doesn't surprise me one bit that Dan, Terry, Rich et al have managed to bag some decent exposure {no, not that kind of exposure AJ} to date.

Not for one minute do I ever think that they are doing this to massage their own egos {this is likely the biggest difference between them and AJ}, they just want the club to be ran properly.

Edit: Yes I spat my tea out after reading that first paragraph back too

#ClemItsTime

[Robinz]

As stated previously
SO69 must be seen as part of the solution and NOT part of the problem.
Cool heads are required and walk away if provoked.
Without doubt there will be people who will want to provoke the active protesters.
For what it's worth...what a great job SO69 has done so far.

[NotHarryAgombar]

Exactly right.
The primary reasons SO69 has done such a good job thus far is they are real STFC and football fans - from the outset they emphasised the importance of avoiding relegation, and hence the need to support the team fully during games (which we orange hat wearers have done) and not to disrupt on pitch performances through protests (such as the throwing on to the pitch of items such as the tennis balls / plastic pigs which stopped games at other clubs in the past and might put us at risk of a points deduction).
However they have rightly highlighted the continuing shambolic off field mistakes - the camera in the toilet, the localised (national?) Bovril shortage, the closing of turnstiles, the fact that hall boys and girls weren’t offered hot drinks in freezing weather etc - and general lack of care for the stadium and fans. These ongoing issues - plus the absence of any expertise in running a football club being employed, other than coaching staff of course - are the reason he needs to sell, while he still can.

#ClemItsTime

[Leggett]

Good reply, agree with a lot of it, no shade thrown but...

the fact that hall boys and girls weren’t offered hot drinks in freezing weather etc -

... was a Trust announcement and sorted by them. Don't want the good work done by either of the groups to be missed, both deserve credit!

[Robinz]

NHA
You are so on the money.
This is the message that needs to be told and if supporters don't listen tell them again and again.
STFC is a local community based football club that has been a large part of our history.

It has been taken over by undesirables.

Swindon Town needs to be returned to people who understand and care about the future of the club and the district.

[Audrey]

Years ago, way before any kind of social media, fans had no inkling of any boardroom/owner shenanigans - of which, as we now know, there were plenty. Fans only had one insight into the club and that was entirely down to what was happening on the pitch.

Team does crap = reduced attendances. Tbh, nobody took much interest in what was happening behind closed doors. Sure, we all laughed when the ‘official’ attendances were given out in the 2nd half - usually a couple of thousand down on the actual number. We all kinda knew money was being skimmed off when fans were paying physical money at the turnstiles.

Thankfully now owners are under much more scrutiny and it’s harder to hide shenanigans - but just as difficult to get rid of the feckers.

So, in effect, what’s happening now is no different to how shoddily and corruptly clubs were run years ago.

It’s just more visible.

[Robinz]

Audrey
Dare say you are correct
But does that make it alright.

[Audrey]

Of course it isn’t right. I’d imagine the vast majority of, especially, smaller clubs are being butt-fucked in some way, shape or form. Some of it unethical, some downright illegal.

We all wanted Power out and we got Clem. We want Clem out, to be replaced by . . .

I’d hazard a guess of more of the same. There are very few altruistic owners who don’t want to take out more than they put in.

All we’re asking for atm is competency as this current bunch haven’t a clue.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

For reasons that befuddle me, I think this is the odd Celebrity worshipping thing.  Similar to how fully functioning grown men get a bit star struck if they bump into a player in the real world!!!!  By the way, I count myself in this - I had a chat with an ex-pro/Manager yesterday and had a moment or two where I thought about how weird that was, before checking myself and reminding myself that I'm probably further up the career world than they are these days!

Same thing likely happens with club owners - special people, right?  Then if they give you the time of the day (Clem is good at that), you feel some real affinity, like you too are special somehow.

As I said, it befuddles me, but I am also victim to it.

The reason I find that odd is they are working for a shitty small business that turns over less than I had to find in Opex savings each budget round!

Its a great optic for the importance for PR isn't it? Get it right early on and with some people you can do literally anything.