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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 08:59:56 » |
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It was Di Canios approach that started the decline...
At least we'd of been starting our decline from the Championship. Also blaming a manager for this is nonsense. He has no power to set playing budgets. Redknapp gets tarnished with this as well. People think these managers are playing Football manager and can sign off players coming in. If the Chairman was influenced by Di Canio and as a result spent too much, that's entirely on him. Maybe grow a backbone. |
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 09:25:01 » |
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2011/12 (L2)
After 10 games: 10th
Finished as Champions (+10)
…..aaaaw the Di Canio days
Similar under Macari in 85, after 8 games we were in 21st place with just 7 points with 2 wins and 5 defeats and a goal difference of -8 yet won the league with the record points total at the time of 102. That is not going to happen this season though. |
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 09:43:40 » |
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Had a look at our relegations in 46 game seasons with 3 points for a win.
Points and position after 10 games and final position.
Nothing conclusive other than a similar points total has seen us finish in the bottom two twice, so 2 down is no guarantee of a safety net.
Added the promotions for comparison & mainly to be reminded of better times.
1981/82 - 20pts (1st). Finished 22nd.
1994/95 - 17pts (5th). Finished 21st.
1999/00 - 8pts (21st). Finished 24th.
2005/06 - 7pts (23rd). Finished 23rd.
2010/11 - 12pts (16th). Finished 24th.
2016/17 - 11pts (18th). Finished 22nd.
2020/21 - 10pts (20th). Finished 23rd.
2024/25 - 8pts (21st). Finished ??.
1985/86 - 13pts (14th). Finished 1st.
1986/87 - 17pts (9th). Finished 3rd.
1989/90 - 13pts (14th). Finished 4th.
1992/93 - 18pts (4th). Finished 5th.
1995/96 - 23pts (1st). Finished 1st.
2006/07 - 22pts (4th). Finished 3rd.
2011/12 - 15pts (10th). Finished 1st.
2019/20 - 20pts (4th). In 2nd after 36 games.
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 10:55:58 » |
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At least we'd of been starting our decline from the Championship.
Also blaming a manager for this is nonsense. He has no power to set playing budgets.
Redknapp gets tarnished with this as well. People think these managers are playing Football manager and can sign off players coming in.
If the Chairman was influenced by Di Canio and as a result spent too much, that's entirely on him. Maybe grow a backbone.
Andrew Black did grow a backbone, and here we are.. |
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 11:32:14 » |
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Andrew Black did grow a backbone, and here we are..
He did more than that though. |
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 14:43:16 » |
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At least we'd of been starting our decline from the Championship.
Also blaming a manager for this is nonsense. He has no power to set playing budgets.
Redknapp gets tarnished with this as well. People think these managers are playing Football manager and can sign off players coming in.
If the Chairman was influenced by Di Canio and as a result spent too much, that's entirely on him. Maybe grow a backbone.
He did actually Black left Wray in charge who idolised Di Canio Di Canio got exactly what he wanted until Black put a block on it. He wasn't a football man and trusted Wray as a lot of company owners do. He had already warned Wray and Di Canio several times, Di Canio wanted 3 more playing in an already bloated squad - And acted. |
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 14:44:02 » |
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Even my Mother could have got us promoted with the money he spent and wasted!!
Ridiculous statement. Salford have been putting that sort of money in every year and even Wellens couldn't get them promoted. |
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 14:47:55 » |
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At least we'd of been starting our decline from the Championship.
Also blaming a manager for this is nonsense. He has no power to set playing budgets.
Redknapp gets tarnished with this as well. People think these managers are playing Football manager and can sign off players coming in.
If the Chairman was influenced by Di Canio and as a result spent too much, that's entirely on him. Maybe grow a backbone.
Correct, no power to set them. He has the power to not blow the budget by January though |
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 14:59:44 » |
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Who appointed Jeremy Wray at the time
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 15:32:47 » |
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He did actually
Black left Wray in charge who idolised Di Canio
Di Canio got exactly what he wanted until Black put a block on it. He wasn't a football man and trusted Wray as a lot of company owners do.
He had already warned Wray and Di Canio several times, Di Canio wanted 3 more playing in an already bloated squad - And acted.
There's no way you can spin this and it not be the owner / chairmans fault. Di Canio can't write the cheques. |
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 16:01:20 » |
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Ridiculous statement. Salford have been putting that sort of money in every year and even Wellens couldn't get them promoted.
£6m budget in 2011/12 Wonder what equates to nowadays |
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 17:59:19 » |
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£6m budget in 2011/12
Wonder what equates to nowadays
With a squad of 25 professionals they'd have to have averaged 4.6k a week in wages. All of them. That must be nonsense. |
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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 18:10:58 » |
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Clarke was meant to be on 8 I think.
And the squad ended up with far more than 25 when you consider the players Di Canio bombed out.
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 18:16:36 » |
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I still think 6m in 2011 is a massive ask
I'm not saying not possible. Just find it hard to believe.
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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday, October 8, 2024, 18:17:35 » |
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Suspect that may have been total budget including transfer fees, of which we paid a few.
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