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« Reply #30 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 15:01:34 »

Also, I can't help but when I see RA or write RA, I think of one of my former jobs. @Batch might know what I'm on aboot  Cheesy

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« Reply #31 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 15:11:04 »


Was it as High Priest of Ptolemaic Egypt?
 

Ah God of Crafts, maybe?

Not this time. But what I'm doing today, quite possibly and uncannily close - especially with the attire  Clap
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« Reply #32 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 15:12:50 »

Your avatar needs updating bambi.
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« Reply #33 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 15:25:32 »


Your avatar needs updating bambi.


Indeed. I thought things were slowly on the up. Time for things to look a bit tired, crest years to all drop again, the deflated golden football to emerge and the robin to fall off its perch.

It's all very sad when I have to manipulate the crest like that. I take no joy from it  Crying
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« Reply #34 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 15:51:04 »

Too far down the road with Clem now, he's a proven liar time and time again. Needs to sell up, and properly, not to another one of his mates who'll just continue to fuck us into the oblivion of non league. We go down, we're not coming back up again any time soon, it's too important to let these pricks gamble with our club.
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« Reply #35 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:10:50 »

The LSpod was great. Both spoke well. My takeaway was that Morfuni does not understand that his pursuit of a ďsustainableĒ club does not appeal, if sustainability equates to getting to a point that he does not have to put money in. Thatís not how football works. You have to speculate, hope to accumulate, and have big enough pockets to survive if that doesnít happen. Morfuni does not have the funds to do that, so needs to actively pursue an exit. Otherwise, weíll all have to grow excited at finished 12th in League 2, which Iím just not sure I can do.
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« Reply #36 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:14:44 »

Power said at the outset that Clem didnít have enough money to run the club.

Not that Power used any of his - howíd  he get away with it for so long.
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« Reply #37 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:19:17 »

Its a hard no from me.
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« Reply #38 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:44:57 »

One of my line managers early in my career gave me some advice that has stayed with me a long time: 'always under-promise and over-deliver'.   Morfuni's problem is he's done the opposite.  He talked a very good game early on, but has failed to live up to his own hype.

If, magically, the ground redevelopment started to progress.  And if we started to see investment in the squad - proper investment, that is, not the sale of our best players to fund cheaper replacements.  And if there was, finally, transparency about the club's financials - then I think there would be a path back.  But I doubt any of these things will happen.

The final point is the one that irks me the most.  Transparency & openness were words that Morfuni himself used repeatedly and we, as fans, warmed to the message.  It was well received.  And here we are, 2Ĺ years later, with none of that.  He's either unwilling or unable to explain why one of the larger clubs in League 2 cannot fund a competitive squad.  Unwilling or unable to produce a simple P&L summary showing the club's outgoings.  This is really simple stuff.  I'll find it difficult to trust him until he starts dealing competently with these basics.
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« Reply #39 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:45:44 »

It's a no here

I've no idea if he's a good or bad person, or just incompetent
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« Reply #40 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:51:19 »

I think he's an incompetent, but can only hope he morphs into a competent.
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« Reply #41 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:56:42 »

Otherwise, weíll all have to grow excited at finished 12th in League 2, which Iím just not sure I can do.

It doesn't excite me or you, but as it appears that others have found ways to use the club to 'move money through' it is now a profitable business for them and we will have to get used to it.
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« Reply #42 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:57:24 »

And if we started to see investment in the squad - proper investment, that is, not the sale of our best players to fund cheaper replacements. 
I imagine every football fan of every football club in the world would like this. But have you ever known a period in Swindon Town's history where it has not been the (necessary) case that we sell our best players and buy cheaper replacements?
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« Reply #43 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 16:59:24 »

But have you ever known a period in Swindon Town's history where it has not been the (necessary) case that we sell our best players and buy cheaper replacements?

And yet allegedly still lose 1M+ a season.

I think the quality of replacements has dramatically declined. I don't recall such a punty mcpuntfface approach.

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« Reply #44 on: Thursday, January 18, 2024, 17:23:32 »

Itís interesting that we donít believe that the club can be run sustainably, but (some) want the club to be fan owned.  Iím not sure where we think the funds will come from if we were fan owned, or is there an assumption that everyone would be happy to stump up extra cash each season
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