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« Reply #405 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 20:03:31 »

To be fair he looked decent at right back under Wellens two seasons ago before he was switched to the left.
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« Reply #406 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 22:47:21 »

One practical defensive point which may help to explain the preference for a back 3 is that we concede a lot of free kicks in our half and also corners.
Having Odimayo, Conroy and Crichlow as a back 3 (or 3 of a back 4) gives us height to defend against these set pieces - Mansfield and Carlisle both had a full team of very tall players, and apart from those 3, Grant, Gladwin and Simpson, the rest of the squad lack height.
As the last 2 games have proved, if we can keep a clean sheet then one goal brings all 3 points!
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« Reply #407 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 22:48:17 »

There's a lot to be said for a consistent bog standard full back.

Hunt's a bit of a victim of the need to be versatile
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« Reply #408 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 23:04:01 »

Difficult player to replace as he covers both sides and ably so. Thatís not to say heís irreplaceable, but we would have to have someone coming in who is an upgrade. If heís wanted by multiple clubs, maybe he actively wants to move on, in which case, maybe itís best.

Dominic Thompson for a second stint?
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« Reply #409 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 23:16:57 »

Difficult player to replace as he covers both sides and ably so. Thatís not to say heís irreplaceable, but we would have to have someone coming in who is an upgrade. If heís wanted by multiple clubs, maybe he actively wants to move on, in which case, maybe itís best.

Dominic Thompson for a second stint?
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« Reply #410 on: Monday, August 30, 2021, 23:24:16 »

Difficult player to replace as he covers both sides and ably so. Thatís not to say heís irreplaceable, but we would have to have someone coming in who is an upgrade. If heís wanted by multiple clubs, maybe he actively wants to move on, in which case, maybe itís best.

Dominic Thompson for a second stint?

Would be curious to see how Thompson did under a manager not named John Sheridan.
Would also probably offer more going forward as a LWB than Hunt.

If you could guarantee his poor form was all down to Sheridan and the real Dom Thompson was the one we saw against Ipswich, Iíd bite your hand off
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« Reply #411 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 07:44:56 »

Hunt offers nothing past being a bog standard full back imo

Bog standard is a bit harsh.  His consistency is impressive, particularly at RB.   Under Wellens was a 7+ every week.   
Not as good as a LB but can do a decent job there.

Agree he isn't going to win games in the final third and is not a wing back but he's a very good RB at this level.

However that means we have 3 so that may be one too many.  I also don't like playing both him and Odi in a back 4 with 2 holding midfielders, particularly at home as it's a big negative and easy to defend against.
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« Reply #412 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 11:53:55 »

Hunt is steady, versatile and reliable.
Decent at this level and need a squad.

Unless we have an adequate player lined up we need to keep, clearly unless itís an offer we simply canít refuse.
Hoping nobody goes out the door and we bring in another decent forward.

This squad has enough to make a reasonable challenge.
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« Reply #413 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 12:04:24 »

Positive itís 0-0, negative we are not playing great and a lot of the players are a yard off the pace constantly waiting for the ball and it gets intercepted.
Biggest irritation is goal kicks, they are pressing high so we canít play it short and as a result we are completely clueless what to do. The keeper seems to take a minute deciding what to do and then just proceeds to float it to the half way line for their centre back to head and then they are right on us attacking again.

Just working my way through the matchday thread as I like to do after the game.

I noticed this on Saturday and wondered what Swindon could actually do to counter what Mansfield were doing. By putting 3 players on the edge of our box, Wollacott literally HAD to go long. With Mansfield's centre backs towering over our players they were always going to win the ball in the air. Was there much we could do to counter this?
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« Reply #414 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 12:12:26 »

Just working my way through the matchday thread as I like to do after the game.

I noticed this on Saturday and wondered what Swindon could actually do to counter what Mansfield were doing. By putting 3 players on the edge of our box, Wollacott literally HAD to go long. With Mansfield's centre backs towering over our players they were always going to win the ball in the air. Was there much we could do to counter this?

Not guarantee it would have worked but we needed to push up and get Gladwin and Payne up near Simpson. Aim it there and see what happens.

Could have been a complete waste but when we were forced long from goal kicks our players didnít really adapt, move, change position, change tactic. Everyone went short leaving only Simpson in the Mansfield half.

Then when we went long even if he won it he had no one anywhere near him.

Same from throw in. If there is nothing on. Just get someone behind Simpson and play the line.
Again, not ideal, not Ďtotal footballí and a gamble as to whether weíd keep possession but (imo) better than trying the same thing over and over again and losing the call over and over again
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« Reply #415 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 12:31:19 »

Not guarantee it would have worked but we needed to push up and get Gladwin and Payne up near Simpson. Aim it there and see what happens.

Could have been a complete waste but when we were forced long from goal kicks our players didnít really adapt, move, change position, change tactic. Everyone went short leaving only Simpson in the Mansfield half.

Then when we went long even if he won it he had no one anywhere near him.

Same from throw in. If there is nothing on. Just get someone behind Simpson and play the line.
Again, not ideal, not Ďtotal footballí and a gamble as to whether weíd keep possession but (imo) better than trying the same thing over and over again and losing the call over and over again

Yeah I think you are probably right. By having more numbers around Simpson it gives you a better chance of picking up second balls and having an opportunity to start an attack rather than just giving the ball back to Mansfield again and again.

I also noticed that our throw ins seemed to lack the snap and sharpness that we had during the Tranmere game. It was almost like the players lacked the confidence to throw the ball to feet against Mansfield, I suspect because of the aggressive press?
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« Reply #416 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 13:31:24 »

Just working my way through the matchday thread as I like to do after the game.

I noticed this on Saturday and wondered what Swindon could actually do to counter what Mansfield were doing. By putting 3 players on the edge of our box, Wollacott literally HAD to go long. With Mansfield's centre backs towering over our players they were always going to win the ball in the air. Was there much we could do to counter this?

KHH had plenty of space if Wollacott had the confidence to try and find him. Alternatively if the ball could have found Simpson more instead of going over his head may have had the chance to hold it up more.
All easy to have opinions in the stand.
No problem with teams like Carlisle and Mansfield pushing right up. Only needs one ball and you are past the first line.
Conroy executed this a few times and noticed the second half as Mansfield tired a little and we turned the ball quicker the spaces started to appear.
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« Reply #417 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 13:33:17 »

Hunt is steady, versatile and reliable.
Decent at this level and need a squad.

Unless we have an adequate player lined up we need to keep, clearly unless itís an offer we simply canít refuse.
Hoping nobody goes out the door and we bring in another decent forward.

This squad has enough to make a reasonable challenge.

Jockster dosen't rate him😀
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« Reply #418 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 13:54:14 »

Two different things.

Someone on the TE get escorted out.
Bloke in the DRS was reported and it the the one the tweet/article is about
Thanks, the bloke I mentioned in the DRS was reported to stewards two seasons ago and nothing got done about it
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« Reply #419 on: Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 17:06:40 »

All 5 passes for the goal were forward passes. First half was nothing but backwards.

Every goal tells a story.

Including the crucial deflection from a Mansfield player ?
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