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« Reply #9465 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:00:35 »

If it ever gets so bad that we need a phoenix club, please don’t let the Trust anywhere near setting it up
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« Reply #9466 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:02:19 »

I've just emailed the Trust to expand on what I would hope a further update might include, thought I may as well cross-post the key bits here here so that people can tell me where I'm being unreasonable at least!

I am perhaps less bothered than some by the Trust statement brown nosing the club a bit - the club are clearly prickly egos to deal with, and if a few throwaway sentences about how great they are mean they engage better, then I'll swallow those happily.

Eminently reasonable points to my eyes!
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« Reply #9467 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:07:16 »

I've just emailed the Trust to expand on what I would hope a further update might include, thought I may as well cross-post the key bits here here so that people can tell me where I'm being unreasonable at least!

I am perhaps less bothered than some by the Trust statement brown nosing the club a bit - the club are clearly prickly egos to deal with, and if a few throwaway sentences about how great they are mean they engage better, then I'll swallow those happily.

There's a difference between 'polite and professional' and 'pathetic'
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« Reply #9468 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:14:09 »

Surely this is just a holding statement to say the club is now co-operating?
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« Reply #9469 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:16:28 »

Trust direct debit cancelled, for the second time. (was tempted back with the ground ownership sales pitch- its never gonna get developed is it?).
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« Reply #9470 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:24:03 »

Trust direct debit cancelled, for the second time. (was tempted back with the ground ownership sales pitch- its never gonna get developed is it?).
I looked on the trust website but couldn't work out how to cancel, did you just cancel the direct debit via your bank? .. is that the proper way?
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« Reply #9471 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:26:17 »

I looked on the trust website but couldn't work out how to cancel, did you just cancel the direct debit via your bank? .. is that the proper way?


Yeah thats essentially cancelling your membership (when it comes around for renewal, be it monthly or annually).
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« Reply #9472 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:41:04 »

Clem absolutely withheld the information from the EFL and seemingly his own CEO, and the Trust, and the Eady Trust. Shares transferred September 2022. Companies house published August 2023. nearly a whole year.

If the CEO doesn't know, I doubt the acting secretary did. The rules are *VERY* clear in the EFL regulations. Even I understood them.

This is purely self inflicted.

What I meant was that it was some kind of secret squirrel thing that nobody else knew, they just didn’t report it to the right channels.

It just cements the fact that the club wasn’t/isn’t being run properly
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« Reply #9473 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:44:22 »

 

is STFCBoo on Twitter the same as the guy/gal on here that parrots about joining the Trust if you think you can do better?
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« Reply #9474 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 11:59:56 »

Surely this is just a holding statement to say the club is now co-operating?

This is what I’d heard, so I’d expect there to be more details forthcoming, if not it was a total waste of time
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« Reply #9475 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 12:07:14 »

Surely this is just a holding statement to say the club is now co-operating?
I hope so, although would have been good to clarify this in the statement
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« Reply #9476 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 12:17:13 »

I hope so, although would have been good to clarify this in the statement

I guess you could say it's an ''holding statement'' for ''few months''.
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« Reply #9477 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 13:15:12 »

I guess you could say it's an ''holding statement'' for ''few months''.

Yeah, on re-reading it that does seem to be the case. Unacceptable.
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« Reply #9478 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 13:18:25 »

What are we up for other than the Standing/Barry stuff?

In the short/medium term what else is on the charge sheet?
Presume it’d be the Abramovich stuff
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« Reply #9479 on: Friday, December 15, 2023, 13:20:01 »

It just cements the fact that the club wasn’t/isn’t being run properly

Sorry. I think its deeper than that. Clem purposely didn't want the info out and it  has totally destroyed any remaining trust.

You'd think lawyers were all over the regulatory filing. He may be that dumb, but they aren't.

I get that it doesn't mean it was withheld to hide wrongdoing as such, but it may well have been withheld for reasons so as not to spook the Eadie Trust for example. Equally it may just be he didn't want to advertise a distressed asset while trying to flog players..

Who knows. Dumb all round.
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