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« Reply #16500 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 14:06:39 »

It’s things like the Morfuni and Skelton court case, we know it’s happening but there’s been no mention of it in the press since March. This could have serious ramifications on the club and it shows what a dodgy businessman Morfuni is, more people need their eyes opening to the fact this isn’t just naivety it’s just pure contempt from the ownership. Why isn’t he getting more of grilling about his general business dealings etc.

We’ve still never heard a peep from Kiely, Zav Austin still introducing himself as a director. There’s so much to after, I get legally journalists need to tread carefully but a lot is already in the public domain.
Who is Skelton?
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« Reply #16501 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 14:10:36 »

James Skelton, Axis director/former director and co-defendant with Clem in the case in March which as I understand it is about trying to make them personally liable (or possibly other businesses in the Axis group, potentially including STFC, liable, I'm not quite clear) for the debts of the Axis business that was wound up.

No idea of the legal rights and wrongs and whether the case is likely to succeed, but it definitely is relevant.

https://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=58890.msg1792750#msg1792750 The Adver article was posted here.
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« Reply #16502 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 14:20:16 »

Dan Wood at the Adver is covering the court case, though - yes? And his previous analysis of what could happen remains relevant now - little, if anything, has changed. There is a limited amount you can report on outside of court dates, for various reasons. The next one is due in the next month, I think. I'm sure Dan will be on top of it.

The Adver were also all over late payment to the emergency services.

In terms of not hearing a peep out of people. It can take months and months to get some stories into the public arena. And those stories can collapse if you get just one move wrong. There is so much in reporting/journalism that goes unseen. So many hours that go unnoticed. And often those unseen, unnoticed hours also go to waste. Sometimes, though, they make a major impact.

And yes, there is definitely a higher bar the media work to in terms of verification, sourcework, corroboration etc (which social media is rendering very old-fashioned, but imo remains v important). Our libel laws in the UK are stricter than most, and that is a difficult obstacle to get around for publishers.
I suppose regarding the court case just an update to that last article would help fans. Has anyone investigated what this means for the club, it has been nearly a year now and i don't know if we can be impacted or not.

I honestly do not underestimate the work you guys do but i do think constant rumours do not help and think this is where you guys can really help.

Last week as trivial as it was is a good example, rumours of no hot water available that you rightfully pointed out was false.

This week alone i and many more fans have been told the following

Under16 scholars have all been released as can't afford to keep them
The Clem court case could lead to the club being chased for money etc

I just think overall it would help to know these things as the club will not tell us
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« Reply #16503 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 14:24:15 »

Edited as read again!   STFC has no saleable assets so I don't think I would be worth going for.

However if held personally liable it will clearly impact Clem's ability to fund the club and he could potentially be banned as UK director and/or fail EFL tests.

I suspect this is more likely to make him sell than everyone wearing orange hats TBH
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« Reply #16504 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 14:25:17 »

Well, luckily we have a precedent for what happens when Clem needs a few million on short notice...
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« Reply #16505 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 14:59:29 »

Edited as read again!   STFC has no saleable assets so I don't think I would be worth going for.

However if held personally liable it will clearly impact Clem's ability to fund the club and he could potentially be banned as UK director and/or fail EFL tests.

I suspect this is more likely to make him sell than everyone wearing orange hats TBH
Can you fail the EFL test after being passed?
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« Reply #16506 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 15:13:47 »

Perhaps Clem could be a matchday guest?
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« Reply #16507 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 15:16:17 »

Who is Skelton?
Take a look at this thread

https://x.com/DanWood_Adver/status/1881980710728474906?t=gk4DoV7IfXxCxeb8TGiA3Q&s=19


(Edit : FU Tapatalk, refresh the thread when I open it so I can see this has been answered)
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« Reply #16508 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 15:23:04 »

Club reason for cancelling meetings is transfer window related.

Fucking hell

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« Reply #16509 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 15:26:59 »

I think it's a fair reason, but also should have provided a firm date for the rearranged meeting immediately

Yeah, I know the window date hasn't changed. But did you expect hall/Clem to realise?
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« Reply #16510 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 15:32:11 »

Pesky timezones

They must think we are all fucking thick
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« Reply #16511 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 15:37:14 »

Calendar error?
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« Reply #16512 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 15:55:57 »

Calendar error?

They are looking at the 2003 calendar by mistake 🤣
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« Reply #16513 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 16:05:25 »

Well, luckily we have a precedent for what happens when Clem needs a few million on short notice...

We'll end up with Kiely and the wives owning is the most likely scenario, sadly.

Crooks still firmly intact.
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« Reply #16514 on: Monday, January 27, 2025, 16:22:43 »

No one legit will be allowed to see the books for due diligence that’s for sure!
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