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« Reply #15 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 10:47:21 »

I am all Italy, might have something to do with the sweep..
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« Reply #16 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 10:49:35 »

I can remember 1982 when Italy won the World Cup and their celebrations all over Swindon that Sunday evening!
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« Reply #17 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:03:10 »

Turkey might do well this tournament, they've got the youngest squad and they've only lost one of their last 12 matches, and have beaten Netherlands, Russia and drew with Germany in the process.

A cagey opener, but Italy look good and have home advantage playing all three of their qualifiers in Rome. They will win the group and edge this game 2-1.

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« Reply #18 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:03:31 »

I have barely kept in touch with much football outside of STFC over the past few years but reading through the pre-amble Italy under Mancini are setup to be very attacking so are unlikely to be as dour as in previous tournaments.

As for the whole thing, I think the usual names like Spain and Germany are in decline and I think Belgium are probably never going to hit that height with their aging players. I watched France take Bulgaria apart at a partisan Stade De France and they looked excellent, fast, fit, strong, they will take some beating.

I just want England not to lose to Scotland and i'll be happy!

It's a year too late for Belgium. Hazard is dead. The back 4 are old and slow. Spain and Germany in a weird phase too, like you say.

It's the frogs to lose (Toulouse?), but Italy represent more value in the market for sure.
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« Reply #19 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:33:49 »

I still reckon Belgium will do quite well again. A bit like England (even though they have a younger squad than Belgique now) in that they'll both probably end up being the bridesmaids rather than the bride.

In other news, I have for some reason put a free £5 on Dries Mertens as Top Goalscorer. I think I meant to select Lukaku but fuck it, Mertens seemingly was 110/1 seems very generous especially each way to 4 places. Reckon they'll spank Finland *wanders off thinking about Belgium to win v Fin and Mertens to score a hattrick*

The only trouble is, his teammate is Lukaku but they've both had cracking seasons. One of them will carry that into the tournament and considering the group they are in, I expect them to rack up some goals early on. They are both "getting on" in footy terms though and PP words ring true in that for many of the Belgium side, it's a year too early. Mind you, if De Bruyne somehow becomes fit enough, you can't fully rule them out.

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« Reply #20 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:52:34 »

I've taken advantage of the 'offer' that Paddy Power have whereby if you put £10 on a top scorer bet, they will give you £1 bets for every shot on target that they have during the tournament. I've gone £5 EW on Griezmann at 22/1, I know he isn't their 'marksman' but he is a busy player and think should reward me with plenty of shots on targets as well as goals.
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« Reply #21 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:53:12 »

I think Italy will go very deep, there main concern being two old as fuck centre backs

Portugal look like they have a stacked squad too, but again reliant on some creaky centre backs. It looks like Frances to lose, but there’s already some rumblings of discontent from mbappe, and heaven knows they love an implosion

Can see England coming second in the group then losing to one of France/Germany/Portugal in the second round. Scotland could squeak through as one of the best placed third teams. Wales will be akin to Ireland in 2012 I fear
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« Reply #22 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 11:57:52 »

I think Italy will go very deep, there main concern being two old as fuck centre backs

Portugal look like they have a stacked squad too, but again reliant on some creaky centre backs. It looks like Frances to lose, but there’s already some rumblings of discontent from mbappe, and heaven knows they love an implosion

Can see England coming second in the group then losing to one of France/Germany/Portugal in the second round. Scotland could squeak through as one of the best placed third teams. Wales will be akin to Ireland in 2012 I fear

If we come second in the group, we play second in ESP, SWE, POL, SVK group.

Winning the group is the problem!
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« Reply #23 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 12:00:31 »

Oh right. Aim for that then, worked for us in 2018!
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« Reply #24 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 12:06:38 »

I've taken advantage of the 'offer' that Paddy Power have whereby if you put £10 on a top scorer bet, they will give you £1 bets for every shot on target that they have during the tournament. I've gone £5 EW on Griezmann at 22/1, I know he isn't their 'marksman' but he is a busy player and think should reward me with plenty of shots on targets as well as goals.

I have done the same with Sky Bet and Lukaku, I get a £3 free bet for every goal he scores
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« Reply #25 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 12:08:14 »

If we come second in the group, we play second in ESP, SWE, POL, SVK group.

Winning the group is the problem!

I think we will go out to Germany in the Q's after beating Poland in the 16's
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« Reply #26 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 12:08:19 »

I've taken advantage of the 'offer' that Paddy Power have whereby if you put £10 on a top scorer bet, they will give you £1 bets for every shot on target that they have during the tournament. I've gone £5 EW on Griezmann at 22/1, I know he isn't their 'marksman' but he is a busy player and think should reward me with plenty of shots on targets as well as goals.

Ahh I think that's what I've done as it mentioned the whole £1 for shots on target bets. Similarly, when Mertens isn't feeling so generous in assisting Lukaku, he does enjoy a good cut in from the flank and a shot from outside/edge of the box.

Good call on Greasyman Smiley I think the only think that put me off with French, German or Portuguese players is down to them probably having tighter games, being in the same group. After that though, yep I can see those players (if their team has got through) doing pretty well as usual.

I'm a bit torn on three outcomes for tonight's match, either;

0 - 1
1 - 1
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1 - 2

Hmmm, might look at who else is throwing around some free bets and whack on a grouped correct score. Also noticed that decent value for a fairly safe bet is "No goal before 32mins" @ evens. Openers are generally cagey and the "underdog" usually wants to bust a gut. It's later in these games when the goals tend to come (a bit like FA Cup 3rd Rnd ties), so 32mins seems safe for a stalemate. They can go rampant after that. Maybe put on an in-play "Italy to Win" after that time and will get kinder odds for it too Hmmm
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« Reply #27 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 12:09:33 »

I have done the same with Sky Bet and Lukaku, I get a £3 free bet for every goal he scores

Great offer from SkyBet!
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« Reply #28 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 12:11:38 »

Ahh I think that's what I've done as it mentioned the whole £1 for shots on target bets. Similarly, when Mertens isn't feeling so generous in assisting Lukaku, he does enjoy a good cut in from the flank and a shot from outside/edge of the box.

Good call on Greasyman Smiley I think the only think that put me off with French, German or Portuguese players is down to them probably having tighter games, being in the same group. After that though, yep I can see those players (if their team has got through) doing pretty well as usual.

I'm a bit torn on three outcomes for tonight's match, either;

0 - 1
1 - 1
or
1 - 2

Hmmm, might look at who else is throwing around some free bets and whack on a grouped correct score. Also noticed that decent value for a fairly safe bet is "No goal before 32mins" @ evens. Openers are generally cagey and the "underdog" usually wants to bust a gut. It's later in these games when the goals tend to come (a bit like FA Cup 3rd Rnd ties), so 32mins seems safe for a stalemate. They can go rampant after that. Maybe put on an in-play "Italy to Win" after that time and will get kinder odds for it too Hmmm

I've also had a nibble on Italy not to keep a clean sheet tonight at even money (with Bet365). I know defensively they have been sound but Turkey can hurt them and I think there is a reasonable chance of being able to double up just if Turkey score a goal
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« Reply #29 on: Friday, June 11, 2021, 12:15:39 »

Great offer from SkyBet!

Yeah you would expect him to score more than 3 goals in the tournament, so I will at least get my money back and be in with a chance of £75 if he manages to pop up with odd hattrick or something and actually win the Golden Boot.  I chose him based on their opposition in the Group stages, and potential opponents there on..  they should be good enough to go Q's or SF's
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