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« Reply #165 on: Monday, December 27, 2021, 16:12:33 »

England captains traditionally resign when their batting drops off or when they've fallen out with everyone. Actual tactical acumen is considered optional, which is really odd when you consider how much Brearley is deified.

I think Root will probably go after this series, but you're quite right about the lack of alternatives. Burns would have been the other guy, long term county captain, but they've just dropped him.

Iím very bored and so have crunched some numbers. The following is the batting average of our last few long term captains in their final ten tests as captain, their career batting averages and the results of those last ten tests:

Joe Root (not including the current test)-90.7 (😲)/50 LLLWLDLDLL

Alastair Cook-51.6/45.4 WWLWWWLDLL

Andrew Strauss-67.2/40.9 LDLDWWWLLL

Michael Vaughan-38.8/41.4 LLDWWDWLD

Nasser Hussain-61.6/37.2 WDWWWLWWWL

Michael Atherton-44.8/37.7 LWLLLLWWWL

Interestingly all those listed above, with the exception of Vaughan, batted above their career averages in their final ten tests. The other glaring fact is that Root is batting at a phenomenal average and yet this has seemingly no effect on the performance of the team. He has to drop the captaincy and give somebody else a go.

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« Reply #166 on: Monday, December 27, 2021, 20:12:31 »

Iím very bored and so have crunched some numbers. The following is the batting average of our last few long term captains in their final ten tests as captain, their career batting averages and the results of those last ten tests:

Joe Root (not including the current test)-90.7 (😲)/50 LLLWLDLDLL

Alastair Cook-51.6/45.4 WWLWWWLDLL

Andrew Strauss-67.2/40.9 LDLDWWWLLL

Michael Vaughan-38.8/41.4 LLDWWDWLD

Nasser Hussain-61.6/37.2 WDWWWLWWWL

Michael Atherton-44.8/37.7 LWLLLLWWWL

Interestingly all those listed above, with the exception of Vaughan, batted above their career averages in their final ten tests. The other glaring fact is that Root is batting at a phenomenal average and yet this has seemingly no effect on the performance of the team. He has to drop the captaincy and give somebody else a go.


The problem is that we don't have any players good enough for test cricket let alone test captaincy!
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« Reply #167 on: Monday, December 27, 2021, 20:16:39 »

The problem is that we don't have any players good enough for test cricket let alone test captaincy!


It really is a shambles. Iíve no idea whoís to blame but it seems certain that weíll continue to be poor for a very, very long time
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« Reply #168 on: Monday, December 27, 2021, 22:58:47 »

English cricket has always seemed to have suffered from a class structure issue. If you played the game with a certain upper lip / higher class attitude you would be OK with selection and the governing body
This type of"don't rock the boat" we will support you  Woke attitude does not work in Australia especially where sport is involved.
Sport has winners and losers..Australia, and especially when playing in Australia are winners. England as shown are generally losers.
Real shame when Stokes Woods and Root  must not forget Jimmy Anderson were really showing total commitment.
Yesterday sitting in a pub in Auckland watching the Aussie tail wagging thinking this can't get worse
But wait it did 30 odd for 4
Fuck I hate the Ashes series.
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« Reply #169 on: Monday, December 27, 2021, 23:28:02 »

Fuck I hate the Ashes series.

Only when they are in Australia, over here they are brilliant because either team can win
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« Reply #170 on: Monday, December 27, 2021, 23:42:59 »

Possibly you are right Posh.
Living in New Zealand, New Zealanders have a saying they support NZ and any team playing Australia
Great saying especially in the early 2000's when Jonny Wilkinson won the World cup in Australia for England.
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« Reply #171 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 00:14:50 »

Terrible decision by the umpire against Bairstow

Should have been given not out with the Aussies needing to review.

Mind you, silly sod should have hit it. Get the bat coming down straight and you have more chance.
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« Reply #172 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 00:24:00 »

Abysmal shot by Root. No foot movement.
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« Reply #173 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 00:30:37 »

Wood. Well done fella! One more duck to tie the record in a year!

32 year old debutant with a 5 for!
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« Reply #174 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 00:33:14 »

Robinson equals the record for England!

Boland has bowled 21 balls and got 6 wickets!
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« Reply #175 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 00:41:01 »

Joked with my son it would be finished by 1am - We only managed 12:50am!
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« Reply #176 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 01:56:04 »

Utterly embarrassing. They should be ashamed of themselves
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« Reply #177 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 04:46:40 »

What a load of crap England are
No pride or skill just over paid and over here.
No bottle and bet Ray Illingworth would be totally embarrassed should he be watching down right now
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« Reply #178 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 07:54:04 »

Went to bed at midnight or so thinking we'd take it to tea at least. What the fuck.
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« Reply #179 on: Tuesday, December 28, 2021, 10:08:36 »

After Stokes went early I jokingly asked whether Australia would need to bat again?

Was only mildly surprised when I looked this morning to see that they didnít.

Take England away from conditions that suit them and put them up against any decent opponents and they will let themselves down.

To get an idea of how bad England have been in recent times in Australia, Joe Root has never been in a team that has won a test match in Australia?
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