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« Reply #5070 on: Thursday, July 9, 2020, 10:15:59 »

Hmmmm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-coronavirus-vaccine-uk-brexit-covid-19-a9608856.html
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« Reply #5071 on: Thursday, July 9, 2020, 15:55:33 »

The money off eating out thing is purely just another poorly disguised attempt to encourage the governments (DC's) strategy of trying to go with herd immunity (and yes I'm aware it doesn't work without a vaccine).

And hey, soon Nando's will be able to serve up chlorinated versions of their supplied product so maybe they are hoping the public won't notice either of these shitty attempts to get us to eat the preferred type of chicken, from our "closest ally" and impose their strategy too.

I'm hearing the car park machines at hospitals will now be implemented with audible clapping noises, upon payment and receipt of your ticket.
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« Reply #5072 on: Thursday, July 9, 2020, 19:32:29 »

I honestly don't think the UK need worry about Chlorinated Chicken - all meat products are way more expensive over here, can't see them under cutting UK producers if that is the case.

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« Reply #5073 on: Thursday, July 9, 2020, 20:25:56 »

I honestly don't think the UK need worry about Chlorinated Chicken - all meat products are way more expensive over here, can't see them under cutting UK producers if that is the case.



Famous last words. Can certainly see all the franchise type chains doing it. Especially McDs, Nando's and suchlike. Until they face a backlash. Wouldn't surprise me if the UK Gov forced their hands on the matter anyway. Would also not be surprised if it is already going into the supply chain.
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« Reply #5074 on: Friday, July 10, 2020, 09:01:22 »

I honestly don't think the UK need worry about Chlorinated Chicken - all meat products are way more expensive over here, can't see them under cutting UK producers if that is the case.


US trade negotiators are very good at ensuring any "anti-competitive practices" which harm US producers (such as producing better quality at a lower price) are specifically banned in trade deals. And we are not in a strong position in these negotiations, the govt is desperate to strike any kind of deal and they know it. So this won't be a bar to the ongoing march of US pseudo-food - the UK can look forward to more expensive meat at much lower quality. Good time to go veggie Smiley
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« Reply #5075 on: Friday, July 10, 2020, 09:21:00 »

I honestly don't think the UK need worry about Chlorinated Chicken - all meat products are way more expensive over here, can't see them under cutting UK producers if that is the case.



Everything is going up over here in December anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/10/no-deal-brexit-will-raise-cost-of-uk-household-staples-say-retailers
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« Reply #5076 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 09:27:19 »

This is just peculiar...

Last 4 days deaths
England     147.    48.    82.    121
Wales           1.      0.       2.       4
N Ireland      0.      0.       0.       0
Scotland       0.      0.       0.       1

I know that the populations are varied, but even if you do it on that level it breaks down as;

England 7.24 deaths per million

The Rest 0.73 deaths per million
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« Reply #5077 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 09:29:30 »

There’s been 20-30 hospital deaths per day in England for a good few weeks now, I don’t know what numbers your using
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« Reply #5078 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 09:46:19 »

There’s been 20-30 hospital deaths per day in England for a good few weeks now, I don’t know what numbers your using

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-07-11/britain-coronavirus-death-toll-statistics
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« Reply #5079 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 09:47:33 »

There’s been 20-30 hospital deaths per day in England for a good few weeks now, I don’t know what numbers your using
Those are the govt figures

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Scroll to the graph at the bottom
Friday 48, Saturday 147, Sunday 21 (horlock missed out Sunday, but the other figures are as per UK govt for the preceding 4 days)
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« Reply #5080 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 09:51:21 »

Those are the govt figures

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Scroll to the graph at the bottom
Friday 48, Saturday 147, Sunday 21 (horlock missed out Sunday, but the other figures are as per UK govt for the preceding 4 days)

Admit it could be a reporting lag, but don't these usually roll up on Mondays?
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« Reply #5081 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 09:55:01 »

It must be coming down to the way deaths are recorded. I saw something mentioned somewhere that England count "suspected COVID" even without a positive test?

Also I don't know how true it is and don't recall where I read it, but it's been mentioned there's something in the fact that NHS trusts are "compensated" for deaths in England differently, and COVID deaths mean they can reclaim more costs or something? I'm sure someone more clued up than me can disprove that though.
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« Reply #5082 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 09:55:48 »

Admit it could be a reporting lag, but don't these usually roll up on Mondays?
There are a couple of days now showing as higher than the figures you had if that's what you mean (e.g Thursday now shows as 85, you had 82). Bottom line is over 600 people lost their lives to COVID last week, and we seem to be flattening out around that rate.
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« Reply #5083 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 10:04:23 »

There are a couple of days now showing as higher than the figures you had if that's what you mean (e.g Thursday now shows as 85, you had 82). Bottom line is over 600 people lost their lives to COVID last week, and we seem to be flattening out around that rate.

It's more the differences between England and the other parts of the union which catch the eye.
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« Reply #5084 on: Monday, July 13, 2020, 10:10:20 »

It's more the differences between England and the other parts of the union which catch the eye.
Sure. If you compare the UK's figures with the rest of the world (cue howls of outrage from the few remaining true believers who still think Johnson's doing fine on COVID) it's clear we are doing very badly compared with the rest of the world. If you take out the other home nations which make the UK's figures actually look quite a bit better and just compare England's deaths per million with the rest of the world, it's absolutely catastrophic. World-beating, even
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