Let's Get Political!

[REDBUCK]

Also, the effect on the economy of improved would be absolutely massive. Our productivity as a nation is shamefully low.

Its low yes but in what areas do you mean specifically or is it all areas.

IMHO you're making a big assumption that there are only upsides to what's proposed

[Batch]

I’d argue in this day and age that access to the internet should be treated as a public necessity in the same way as gas, electricity and water is.

surely libraries have public internet access.

[Ginginho]

Free broadband seems just plain wrong to me.  I pay for my broadband and can afford to. 

A lot of people simply can't afford broadband though.

My brother, for example, worked part time in a supermarket and simply couldn't afford it and had 4 kids at school. They had to go round my parents to use the internet to help with their homework.

But, good for you, you can afford to pay for it, so you're alright.

[Bogus Dave]

surely libraries have public internet access.

Yes, but using the water example we don’t expect people to have to go to another building to wash up or have a shower

[Pax Romana]

A lot of people simply can't afford broadband though.

My brother, for example, worked part time in a supermarket and simply couldn't afford it and had 4 kids at school. They had to go round my parents to use the internet to help with their homework.

But, good for you, you can afford to pay for it, so you're alright.

That's a rather shitty jibe.  My objection was not to providing free broadband but to providing it universally for free to people who are lucky enough to be able to afford it.  Every £ of child benefit, free school meals, OAP bus passes, tv licences etc. given to people who don't need it is a £ that can't be targeted where it is genuinely needed.

[Nomoreheroes]

Yes, but using the water example we don’t expect people to have to go to another building to wash up or have a shower

But we pay water rates though, right?

[McGurk's Missus]

*sings* Ohhhh theeeee Grand Old Duke of York...he had ten thousand...

[pauld]

*sings* Ohhhh theeeee Grand Old Duke of York...he had ten thousand...

He didn't have 10,000, a few dozen probably, maybe. And they weren't men, they were underage girls. Allegedly

[McGurk's Missus]

Was thinking 10k potential lawsuits. It doesn't look good.

Funny how he can't remember ever meeting this girl at all but can vividly remember going to Pizza Express ONCE. Just so happened to remember it, once someone mentioned it (with a chuckle). As if it were akin to handing out an OBE.

Selective memory is incredibly common in the guilty, so I'm told. Cognitive dissonance at play? Which would explain why he is probably coming across so blazé.

[pauld]

Was thinking 10k potential lawsuits. It doesn't look good.

Funny how he can't remember ever meeting this girl at all but can vividly remember going to Pizza Express ONCE. Just so happened to remember it, once someone mentioned it (with a chuckle). As if it were akin to handing out an OBE.

Selective memory is incredibly common in the guilty, so I'm told. Cognitive dissonance at play? Which would explain why he is probably coming across so blazé.

Blase, it's blase. Don't think it's as complex as that. There's two explanations:
1) He has a massive sense of entitlement and just thinks he can do what he wants because the rules don't apply to him. Like Johnson, Rees-Mogg et al.
2) That's one hell of a Pizza Express in Woking.
I'm going with option 2. I hear the dough balls alone are sensational

[horlock07]

surely libraries have public internet access.

Libraries, what are they?

Seriously though one can image that if Labour were to propose creating places where people couild borrow books to read, the Tory faithful would be screaming Stalin at them?

[Tails]

Libraries, what are they?

Seriously though one can image that if Labour were to propose creating places where people couild borrow books to read, the Tory faithful would be screaming Stalin at them?

I saw something earlier which showed the Conservatives screaming Communism at their top of the lungs when the NHS was first introduced.

[horlock07]

Was thinking 10k potential lawsuits. It doesn't look good.

Funny how he can't remember ever meeting this girl at all but can vividly remember going to Pizza Express ONCE. Just so happened to remember it, once someone mentioned it (with a chuckle). As if it were akin to handing out an OBE.

Selective memory is incredibly common in the guilty, so I'm told. Cognitive dissonance at play? Which would explain why he is probably coming across so blazé.

I have never been to a Pizza Express and on that basis I am concluding I am posher than the royal family. I assume it would be fairly easy to establish whether this stacks up as on would expect the protection team to keep records, I cannot image he just popped off there on his own. I also felt that the perspiration excuse was a stonker, it being an ailment he had then, but has has apparently got over now.

However it was all rather trumped by Lady Colin Campbell's (look her up on Wiki, when you read her background you can understand why she might be a bit different)  performance of GMB this morning where she was defending him less a case of 'hold my beer', more a case of hold my 'Dubonnet and Gin'

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1196359317676539904

[pauld]

However it was all rather trumped by Lady Colin Campbell's (look her up on Wiki, when you read her background you can understand why she might be a bit different)  performance of GMB this morning where she was defending him less a case of 'hold my beer', more a case of hold my 'Dubonnet and Gin'

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1196359317676539904

That's quite incredible. Maybe she thought the offence was "soliciting prostitution with miners" and couldn't understand why everyone was getting upset about Epstein paying burly blokes from Yorkshire and South Wales for sex?

[jayohaitchenn]

surely libraries have public internet access.

LIBRARY?! THAT'S FUCKING BOOK COMMUNISM