Brentford v Swindon Town Official Matchday Thread

[wokinghamred]

I thought there were two differences between the teams. We have no leaders, they did. Ward may talk to the ref, but he doesn't gee us up and get us going. Douglas had a poor game (apart from the pass for our 2nd), but in all the breaks he was talking to all their players, getting them fired up.

The second was inexperience. The longer the game went on, the more we played it out from the back, but they were pushing up on us more and more. We invited them on to us, and that increased their momentum. There is a time to play it long.

Sorry to join a bandwagon, but Hall is poor. He may be inexperienced, but he needs to man up and quick.

And how the hell was Trotta the MoM ?

[wokinghamred]

oh yeah - and they scored 2 comedy goals - we never get those.

[Ticker45]

Once again my away record of not being very good continued. Did not expect to get much change out of a Brentford side going well, being full of experienced players and would quite have happily settled for a draw but 'twas not to be.

As said elsewhere we were good in parts diabolical in others, played some nice controlled stuff then gave the ball away in dangerous places and hey ho under the cosh again. Got to say that defensively we are all over the place at the moment. Missed McEveley badly as they did a job on Byrne (who is never a left back) exactly the same as the play-off, pulled him around all over the place trying to mark Donaldson and left big gaps exploited this time by McCormack.

I keep saying that as a team we are on a steep learning curve but we definitely require some steel to go with the nice football as I would hate to be looking over the shoulder come March.

As an afterthought, how is it we seem to get referees (and assistants) who just do not seem up the job. I can only say that it is painfully obvious that none have them have ever played the game at a serious level and get sucked in by the non-fouls and divers yet miss the nasty little incidents - it really pisses me off.  

[Not that Nice If I'm Honest]

oh yeah - and they scored 2 comedy goals - we never get those.

I don't think you can call their first a comedy goal - brilliant free kick

But there was a good deal of comedy just before when slipped.

Was I the only one that thought he was odds on to score after slipping ?

He was a bit of a twat though, baiting the crowd afterwards - it's times like that when you need the lad that hit the keeper !

[Ardiles]

I thought the celebration was fine.  After he slipped, we were giving him heaps of abuse and making fun.  And then he scored...so why shouldn't he give a little back?  If fans are going to dish it out, they have to be prepared to accept it as well.  The celebration/baiting was good-natured, so can't really see the problem.

[wokinghamred]

I don't think you can call their first a comedy goal - brilliant free kick

But there was a good deal of comedy just before when slipped.

Was I the only one that thought he was odds on to score after slipping ?

He was a bit of a twat though, baiting the crowd afterwards - it's times like that when you need the lad that hit the keeper !

I thought it was inevitable after he slipped. Great free kick, though.

[Not that Nice If I'm Honest]

I thought the celebration was fine.  After he slipped, we were giving him heaps of abuse and making fun.  And then he scored...so why shouldn't he give a little back?  If fans are going to dish it out, they have to be prepared to accept it as well.  The celebration/baiting was good-natured, so can't really see the problem.

I agree about giving it and taking it.

He was getting alot from the Town fans, but his celebration was a bit rabid.

No problem with it, but he was lucky he directed it at the milder end of the Town support, or he might have got something chucked at him - not condoning it, but it does happen

[@mwooly63]

I don't think you can call their first a comedy goal - brilliant free kick

I fail to understand why we never put a man on the post,
Wes never moved and the ball went across him ffs

Whereas their keeper made a great save v pritchards free kick

[Christy]

Was I the only one that thought he was odds on to score after slipping

Never mind the slip bit, I thought he was odds on after the ref gave them a second extremely dodgy free kick on the egde of the box in a matter of minutes.

Brentford have a team full of highly organised, quality players - and leaders - at this level, who carry with them that borderline level of nastiness, aggression and bullying, which together should see them comfortably promoted.  I am continually dumbfounded that they, like Orient for example, are allowed to get away with it. Just about all of their five players booked gave the ref some thinking to do, and guess what...

As for us, as others have mentioned, we lack leadership and character. Despite playing some magnificent attacking football, there was a certain inevitability that we'd come home with nothing.  This was a game that cried out for 4-5-1, with two wide players countering their full backs who bomb on.  Byrne, who I felt did much better than I expected, was often left exposed against Donaldson and McCormack.  Pritchard's effort was yet again exceptional, otherwise, depending on what happens in January, I'm inclined to think 7th will be as good as it gets....I'd take that right now, and would have been chuffed with that in August.

[ronnie21]

As an afterthought, how is it we seem to get referees (and assistants) who just do not seem up the job. I can only say that it is painfully obvious that none have them have ever played the game at a serious level and get sucked in by the non-fouls and divers yet miss the nasty little incidents - it really pisses me off.   

Did you see the Man City/Liverpool game . . those matches are supposed to be controlled by the cream of the reffing talent, how the fuck the lino can give an offside when he was clearly on by two metres and the ref missed penalties at either end is beyond me, just gotta be grateful we get a decent ref occasionally!

[jayohaitchenn]

I thought it was inevitable after he slipped. Great free kick, though.

Better than the slip, he went to bang the ball in an empty net after the third goal and missed

[leefer]

I fail to understand why we never put a man on the post,
Wes never moved and the ball went across him ffs

Whereas their keeper made a great save v pritchards free kick

Agree...been saying for years that if you have a man on the post covering that half of the goal and the keeper on the other it takes something special to find the net.

Oh...and the wall these days hinder the keeper more than helps,in the old days the ball was a lot harder to lift over or round a wall...the balls these days make it a lot easier.

[@mwooly63]

I thought it was inevitable after he slipped. Great free kick, though.

From Brentfords youtube

[Red Frog]

I don't think you can call their first a comedy goal - brilliant free kick

But there was a good deal of comedy just before when slipped.

Was I the only one that thought he was odds on to score after slipping ?

He was a bit of a twat though, baiting the crowd afterwards - it's times like that when you need the lad that hit the keeper !

Oh Christ, don't start again. 

[LucienSanchez]

Wes seemed to be hiding behind the wall for the free-kick, it definitely went his side. And Ward should have done better with the third. Hall or Ward lost their man for the second. All avoidable goals...