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« Reply #60 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 19:35:15 »

When pdc departed,kmac was surely not simply intended as a short term appointment ie if you're looking short term you get someone in with experience to continue the promotion push not someone who can develop our youth system.I guess what I'm getting at is I'd be very surprised if his contract was only 3-4 months.
On the contrary I'm pretty sure that the oracle that is Fredi stated in his rant that KMAC was working without a contract. Judging on the majority of that rant yielding the truth so far then this wouldn't surprise me!!
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« Reply #61 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 20:09:53 »

I actually feel a bit sorry for KMac. Some of our retarded fans didnt give him a chance from the start, simply because he isnt Paolo Di Canio. Fighting a losing battle from the start.

Even if he got us up, and we lost the first game of the season in the championship, these cunts would be calling for his head.
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« Reply #62 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:01:35 »

I honestly don't really care who is our manager. I'll back whoever is in charge as long as I can because I think short termism is the worst thing in football.

If MacDonald goes then he'll just be replaced with another bloke who will do one of three things:

- fail miserably and not be relieved of his duties soon enough
- plod along in mid table playing dull football and cause endless debate on this forum where nobody really pays any attention to what each other are writing
- be successful and leave before the job is done
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« Reply #63 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:10:09 »

I honestly don't really care who is our manager. I'll back whoever is in charge as long as I can because I think short termism is the worst thing in football.

If MacDonald goes then he'll just be replaced with another bloke who will do one of three things:

- fail miserably and not be relieved of his duties soon enough
- plod along in mid table playing dull football and cause endless debate on this forum where nobody really pays any attention to what each other are writing
- be successful and leave before the job is done

I'm sure we can come up with a few more scenarios than 3 as to what happens to STFC managers.
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« Reply #64 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:11:41 »

I'm sure we can come up with a few more scenarios than 3 as to what happens to STFC managers.
Wouldn't that then just be a potted history of our post-war managers? It all boils down to more or less those 3 outcomes or at least it has done in my time following Town.
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« Reply #65 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:14:21 »

Wouldn't that then just be a potted history of our post-war managers? It all boils down to more or less those 3 outcomes or at least it has done in my time following Town.

What about Colin Todd and Roy Evans?
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« Reply #66 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:15:05 »

Before my time.
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« Reply #67 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:27:40 »

Before my time.

Both walked out, with the side doing no better than crap to ok, when realising they been told a crock of shit by the owners.

If MacDonald does stay, then at least he should have some idea what he's letting himself in for...this line being very illuminating...
 
"And that's the thing with Swindon - we don't know about finances at this moment."
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« Reply #68 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:31:07 »

The problem here Samdy, is that if the use of youth is to be the future, then it needs to be very loudly shouted out to te fan base, as Town fans are notoriously quick to jump onto the backs of local youngsters.  You have fans like JTR who consider their investment in a season ticket a risk, as it appears, we might not have the hoped for expensive promotion chasing squad.

Steve Davis at Crewe has said, that if you use a lot of kids, you're just as likely to go down as up, and have to be prepared to accept this.

Done properly, youth development is expensive, and only a cheap option if not done properly. Unfortunately we're still waiting for clarity from the Board, as to what we might expect from next season.

Aarghhh.  I've obviously not been very clear in my original post, which I'm now going to edit.
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« Reply #69 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:32:36 »

Todd was Di Canio without the winning, wasn't he? Lots of dodgy foreign imports and lots of money spent.

I should think the last few months will have told MacDonald more than enough about the conditions he will be operating under but presumably he realises that his chances of finding another managerial role are very slim unless he proves himself here.
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« Reply #70 on: Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 21:38:40 »

Todd was Di Canio without the winning, wasn't he? Lots of dodgy foreign imports and lots of money spent.

I should think the last few months will have told MacDonald more than enough about the conditions he will be operating under but presumably he realises that his chances of finding another managerial role are very slim unless he proves himself here.

I don't know why I should give a monkeys about him, I don't even know that bloke. But I really hope he does do well for that reason (in addition to STFC being successful)
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« Reply #71 on: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 04:16:57 »

 I think we the fans have a gut instinct of when we have a good manager or not. A prime example of this is Macari, when he was sacked there was mass protests, because we knew that we had a manager who would get us places, and the facts speak for them selves, and to the same degree PDC, even after the start he made in the promotion year. Now we come to Kmac, im afraid i dont get the same confidence and aural from him and the way the team has performed since he took over has been at times absolute dross, Doncaster as a example, it seems like he cannot get the players to play for him or instill the passion that PDC had them playing with. As someone else has said he is 2 steps up the ladder from Malpas, i think just maybe 1 step, i think next season we will be fighting off relegation as ive no faith in him.
 Another thought, im sure that when Jed came in, he said that there would be a similar budget as there was for this season, or am i hearing and seeing things Bad Mood
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« Reply #72 on: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 06:10:00 »

I think we the fans have a gut instinct of when we have a good manager or not. A prime example of this is Macari, when he was sacked there was mass protests, because we knew that we had a manager who would get us places, and the facts speak for them selves, and to the same degree PDC, even after the start he made in the promotion year. Now we come to Kmac, im afraid i dont get the same confidence and aural from him and the way the team has performed since he took over has been at times absolute dross, Doncaster as a example, it seems like he cannot get the players to play for him or instill the passion that PDC had them playing with. As someone else has said he is 2 steps up the ladder from Malpas, i think just maybe 1 step, i think next season we will be fighting off relegation as ive no faith in him.
 Another thought, im sure that when Jed came in, he said that there would be a similar budget as there was for this season, or am i hearing and seeing things Bad Mood
Yes, just like that time when we were 3-1 down to Brentford in the play off semi and just laid down and died...oh, wait Huh?
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« Reply #73 on: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 06:12:18 »

Todd was Di Canio without the winning, wasn't he? Lots of dodgy foreign imports and lots of money spent.

Sort of, I think there was an agent tie up and he brought in a load of crap. He jumped ship as soon as he possibly could - as early as October. I'd rate him as the worst manager we've had in my time, worse than Malpas and Heart.
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« Reply #74 on: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 08:02:00 »

I think we the fans have a gut instinct of when we have a good manager or not. A prime example of this is Macari, when he was sacked there was mass protests, because we knew that we had a manager who would get us places, and the facts speak for them selves, and to the same degree PDC, even after the start he made in the promotion year. Now we come to Kmac, im afraid i dont get the same confidence and aural from him

I think you can count Macari, Hoddle and PDC in that "gut instinct" - every other manager that left we've been a bit "meh".

Wasn't even that upset when Ossie left as he didn't have a clue once the Macari team spirit and fitness had been filtered out (demonstrated at every other club he has been at)
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