Prawn Brigade Boxes

[No Longer Posh Red]

I reckon we would average around 10-11k in the Championship.

We averaged 8,089 HOME fans this season, if you add to that the 2,050 away fans that Peterborough averaged it would suggest that you are not far out.

I guess we would probably get more home fans than this season (based on the teams we would have to play), however Peterborough had more than 3,300 away fans four times so that may well balance out.

[Hoboken]

Does it have a concourse shell prepared though? And even if it does the space is small. When in the concourse of the stand i've looked up and just can't get my head around the idea. It's never clicked with me to be honest.Same when looking at it from outside too. I just can't see it working without significant impact on the upper tier of the stand. Why do it there when its the best stand of the 4? It aint borken so fix the bits of the ground that are.

I'm guessing they will put boxes there as the view is great. For the money being forked out, you'd expect a decent view.

[Hoboken]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/churchward82c/3871980900/

We talking about the middle part here?

Oh dear...they look like they'd take out my seats....row J...

[bigbobjoylove]

We averaged 8,089 HOME fans this season, if you add to that the 2,050 away fans that Peterborough averaged it would suggest that you are not far out.

I guess we would probably get more home fans than this season (based on the teams we would have to play), however Peterborough had more than 3,300 away fans four times so that may well balance out.

I'd imagine Peterborough away is one to look forward to as an away fan at that level? Being able to stand on an old-fashioned terrace and all that.

Are Posh going to have to turn it into seating at some point? Some sort of rule about spending a maximum of 3 years in the Championship or something if I remember.

[No Longer Posh Red]

I'd imagine Peterborough away is one to look forward to as an away fan at that level? Being able to stand on an old-fashioned terrace and all that.

Are Posh going to have to turn it into seating at some point? Some sort of rule about spending a maximum of 3 years in the Championship or something if I remember.

I've heard that as their three years are up & that they will have to convert before next season. Although in all likelihood if they start to convert one end they may get some leeway before they have to start at the other end.

The other option (and by far the cheapest), would be to just put seats in both ends, similar to what we have done with the Town End & the Bank.

[jonny72]

If you look at what franchise charges for quite modest boxes, it makes sense: http://www.Franchise.com/commercial/hospitality/

Those prices aren't that high, when you consider you're getting a 3 course meal and the plush surroundings. Think it's more about appealing to a different demographic and maximising the revenue streams. We could generate a few extra quid if we just had better food and drink options around the ground for example.

I reckon we would average around 10-11k in the Championship.

Would be higher than that, probably 12k plus on average. Everyone goes on about our attendances the last time we were in The Championship, but they've gone through the roof across the board since then. We could probably go higher but would be constrained by our capacity - there would be plenty of sell outs.

[Berniman]

Would be higher than that, probably 12k plus on average. Everyone goes on about our attendances the last time we were in The Championship, but they've gone through the roof across the board since then. We could probably go higher but would be constrained by our capacity - there would be plenty of sell outs.

There would be a few full houses but I reckon I am about right for the average, maybe 10.5k - 11.5k.

[Ardiles]

Well there's only one way to find out...

[jonny72]

There would be a few full houses but I reckon I am about right for the average.

Did you do a spreadsheet though? I did a while back comparing our attendances with other clubs / league averages over the last 20 years or so, which is how I came up with the 12k plus average for The Championship.

[corner]

If you look at what franchise charges for quite modest boxes, it makes sense: http://www.Franchise.com/commercial/hospitality/

Their clubPlatinum is prity much the same price as our sponsors and directors suites.

[Reg Smeeton]

Those prices aren't that high, when you consider you're getting a 3 course meal and the plush surroundings. Think it's more about appealing to a different demographic and maximising the revenue streams. We could generate a few extra quid if we just had better food and drink options around the ground for example.

Would be higher than that, probably 12k plus on average. Everyone goes on about our attendances the last time we were in The Championship, but they've gone through the roof across the board since then. We could probably go higher but would be constrained by our capacity - there would be plenty of sell outs.

Not really, what has tended to happen, is that there's been a shake out of the smaller attended clubs in Div 2, and a replacement by bigger attended clubs. So in one of our later seasons in Div 2, 98/99. You had Bury, Crewe, Grimsby, Tranmere, Stockport, Port Vale, Oxford and us, all of whom averaged < 10,000.

[jonny72]

Not really, what has tended to happen, is that there's been a shake out of the smaller attended clubs in Div 2, and a replacement by bigger attended clubs. So in one of our later seasons in Div 2, 98/99. You had Bury, Crewe, Grimsby, Tranmere, Stockport, Port Vale, Oxford and us, all of whom averaged < 10,000.

Maybe but the fact remains that attendances in The Championship have been steadily increasing over the last 20 years or so over which time they've gone up by 70%, and up by around 20% since we were last there.

[leefer]

Doubt it, we didnt sell out many games when we were in the Premier League

20 years on.....we would sell out every game if we were in the Premiership......we would sell 10,000 season tickets for a start.

[Berniman]

Did you do a spreadsheet though? I did a while back comparing our attendances with other clubs / league averages over the last 20 years or so, which is how I came up with the 12k plus average for The Championship.

Nope, mainly because after I thought about it and summed everything up, I came to the conclusion that..  I had a life and really couldn't be arsed.  

Isn't that what the 80% is for?  I spend my days at work playing with spread sheets, why the fuck would I want to carry on for something that doesn't really matter.  The crowds will be what they will be...

I just reckon I am right   That's my spread sheet.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

I think it's a good idea to be honest. It's what we have lacked as a club for some years now. We fell behind on this front a long time ago as already mentioned in this thread even clubs like Donny managed to get some boxes put up to get them extra revenue.

Yes it means reduced capacity but the chances are we won't sell out every week anyway. Imagine in the Championship under a 13,000 capacity if we got around 11,500-12,500 every game and sold out the boxes? It would be brilliant financially for the club and it's possible.

For longer term plans I would say put some boxes in the DRS then rebuild the SB and the TE to regain the capacity lost in the DRS and to improve the dated facilites currently on offer. The SB can be done cheap. Whack a lego style stand up with a roof there. It's actually fairly deep so you could easily get a 3,000 seater stand with a roof there which would then become the sole away allocation.

The TE can be extended a bit further back into the car park behind it making it a deeper stand with more capacity. Again this could be done pretty cheaply and quickly and would increase capacity.

In terms of the Arkells that's probably the biggest and toughest to tackle in terms of a possible redevelopment. But the easiest thing would be to build a stand that replicates the DRS with boxes.

I reckon all the above would give us an allocation of around 18,000 maybe 20,000 at a push which is probably more than enough in all honesty.