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« Reply #30 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 09:27:44 »

Thompson is a product of the youth team which works directly against any suggestion of scrapping the youth set up.


Tell that to di canio then as it's him who is dismissive of the youth set up.
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« Reply #31 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 09:29:51 »

Thompson is a product of the youth team which works directly against any suggestion of scrapping the youth set up.

How many teams have youth players in their first 11? Storey is 18 and L Thompson is 17 yet we are expecting to see them play regularly? What other youth players do we have that people think should be getting game time but aren't?

Don't think anyone said the younger ones should be playing regularly. If you need to utilise them to cover injuries you should expect that it is a learning experience for them and try to build them up, not just write them all off as shit.

FWIW, I would like to see Storey getting more game time - he would provide that turn of speed missing while Williams is injured.

Oh yeah, and if Bostock isn't injured and isn't playing, why do we have him? He is surely the creative midfielder of which PdC speaks.

And another "Oh yeah", PdC makes a big deal about how fit he gets his players with all the extra training, so 2 games a week for a couple of weeks shouldn't be an issue.
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« Reply #32 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 09:37:48 »



FWIW, I would like to see Storey getting more game time - he would provide that turn of speed missing while Williams is injured.



So asides from Storey (who did get game time yesterday) who else is there?

What other youth players is Di Canio ignoring when they should be playing?
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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 09:46:26 »

We have a first team squad (i.e with squad numbers) of 25 and that's not including Rooney, Risser, Caddis or Cox. That only includes Storey and Thompson from the youth team (it also includes Smith, who is unlikely to play ever) but it really should be enough to get us through a few injuries.
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« Reply #34 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 09:51:23 »

But who else from the youths should be playing?

People are moaning they aren't used enough so they must have some in mind that should be getting game time.
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« Reply #35 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 09:51:43 »

So asides from Storey (who did get game time yesterday) who else is there?

What other youth players is Di Canio ignoring when they should be playing?

The youth team manager for a start, I would speculate. Bodin is clearly far outside the inner circle, and there doesn't appear to be any constructive dialogue around youth development. Unless you know otherwise.
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« Reply #36 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 09:54:38 »

The youth team manager for a start, I would speculate. Bodin is clearly far outside the inner circle, and there doesn't appear to be any constructive dialogue around youth development. Unless you know otherwise.

Maybe you can name a youth team player that should be getting more game time. We have Storey (who is on the fringes), any others?
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« Reply #37 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:01:05 »

Maybe you can name a youth team player that should be getting more game time. We have Storey (who is on the fringes), any others?

Actually I was making a different point. I don't even think there should be as many youth team players in the squad as there were last night, given the number of players PdC has bought, but he (rather too forcibly) admits that its enforced rather than through any youth development policy. I think even you would be hard-pressed to find an occasion when he has mentioned an interest in bringing through youth.
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« Reply #38 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:02:09 »

Nobody is saying the youth lads should be playing yet. The majority won't make it but to dismiss all of them is wrong and will do nothing for their confidence.
Harry Grant from last year is a prime example. Was a second year scholar and a good one at that. Never looked at by Di canio in training or youth games and released. Given a 2 year pro contract at Sheffield Wednesday.
I would personally have had him around the first team squad before Louis Thompson who was only in his first year. At least to have a look even if in the end wasn't deemed good enough.

Swindon will always bring the odd lad through if they are given a shout and do no worse than other clubs in our position. Crewe buck the trend and to compare to them is never going to be fair,which is what Di canio did. No lower league clubs compare to them. They put alot more into their youth set up,thats how they operate. Their kids will get a chance as their fans know that is how they are and the pressure wont be as great. clubs like us don't gamble on youth as results are everything and managers risk their jobs on results.
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« Reply #39 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:07:29 »

Nobody is saying the youth lads should be playing yet. The majority won't make it but to dismiss all of them is wrong and will do nothing for their confidence.
Harry Grant from last year is a prime example. Was a second year scholar and a good one at that. Never looked at by Di canio in training or youth games and released. Given a 2 year pro contract at Sheffield Wednesday.
I would personally have had him around the first team squad before Louis Thompson who was only in his first year. At least to have a look even if in the end wasn't deemed good enough.

Swindon will always bring the odd lad through is they are given a shout and do no worse than other clubs in our position.

You mention one lad that wasn't offered a contract. What about those that were?
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« Reply #40 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:11:35 »

What more do people expect?

Should he be lauding up the youth system when we currently have only one (18 year old) prospect that may be ready for first team football?

Honest question..... what more do people want?
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« Reply #41 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:16:24 »

You mention one lad that wasn't offered a contract. What about those that were?

What about them? Storeys touch isn't good enough in Di canio's opinion and i don't know what he thinks of Bedwell but he slated them all as a group last night.
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« Reply #42 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:18:39 »

What about them? Storeys touch isn't good enough in Di canio's opinion and i don't know what he thinks of Bedwell but he slated them all as a group last night.

You use the not signing of one player to say PDC doesn't give a shit about youths while ignoring the fact the he did offer contracts to others. A tad selective isn't it?
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« Reply #43 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:25:11 »

You use the not signing of one player to say PDC doesn't give a shit about youths while ignoring the fact the he did offer contracts to others. A tad selective isn't it?

Have you read his quotes from last night? The contracts may have been given the from above for all i know but I know he doesn't watch the youths. He is dismisive of the youth set up and you've defended it up the thread. You've kinda gone full circle in this thread..

you've misquoted me above too as i don't think he should have signed him,my point was that he didn't even look at the lad.
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« Reply #44 on: Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 10:26:46 »

What more do people expect?

Should he be lauding up the youth system when we currently have only one (18 year old) prospect that may be ready for first team football?

Honest question..... what more do people want?

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