Bristol City

[reeves4england]

100,000 ?

If only we could get 10% of those expressing an opinion through the turnstiles we would need a bigger ground.

......oh.......sorry 15%

I never said it was expressed by 100,000 different people

[Simon Pieman]

We rarely sell over 10,000 so we may as well clear the stratton bank and put a casino and hotel over there

[Not that Nice If I'm Honest]

I never said it was expressed by 100,000 different people

So it was 10,000 people expressing the same idea 10 times each, then we would need 150% of them to turn up to fill the current ground.

Maths is on my side

[4D]

** nostalgia alert**

I remember the days we would get over 10k for a mid-table game against Barnsley,  and 13 to 14k when we played Bristol City. If we can get back to a championship level I think we could average 10k.

[Frigby Daser]

We rarely sell over 10,000 so we may as well clear the stratton bank and put a casino and hotel over there

I thought the casino was going between the Town End and North Stand?

[Batch]

If we can get back to a championship level I think we could average 10k.

Is it enough to stay give us a realistic chance to stay there though?

This year there are two teams under 10K average, Peterborough and Doncaster, with Barnsley on just over 10K. There are eight teams with over 20K averages and another 3 with 18K averages.

Nah, fuck it. Of course we will stay there.

[4D]

We are quite comparable to Barnsley

[Ardiles]

** nostalgia alert**

I remember the days we would get over 10k for a mid-table game against Barnsley,  and 13 to 14k when we played Bristol City. If we can get back to a championship level I think we could average 10k.

Seriously?!  We average 8,000 right now in League 2.  Do you really think that two promotions would add only another 2,000 to the gate?  Just 10 days ago we had 29,000+ fans at Wembley, a proportion of whom would certainly be persuaded to come along more regularly if Championship football was on offer.  And then you have the significantly increased away attendances as well.

I am fairly sure we would average well above 10,000 in the Championship.  That is why the infrastructure development piece is so important because, as Red Rag pointed out, it would have to go hand in hand with success on the pitch.  No way of proving this, but my hunch is that two promotions and a fully redeveloped, town centre stadium would add at least 50% to our present gates, and probably more.  Attendances in the low to mid teens should be perfectly achievable...with more than that for the very big games.

[Reg Smeeton]

We are quite comparable to Barnsley

Insofar as both have had one season in the top flight...but Barnsley have had 60 odd seasons in Div2 against our 18, which makes them a bigger small club.

[REDBUCK]

The trend is fairly obvious

Wigan- new ground moved up the leagues. Premier League regulars
Reading-  new ground. 2 seasons in Prem, look set to make it back
Swansea- new ground. Prem
Cardiff- new ground, challenging for Premier League
Blackpool- redeveloped ground, up there
Brighton- new ground timed perfectly with promotion to Championship

10 years ago we were playing these clubs every season

Nothing to do with the manager or team then, just the stadium

[4D]

Insofar as both have had one season in the top flight...but Barnsley have had 60 odd seasons in Div2 against our 18, which makes them a bigger small club.

I don't quite get the "bigger club" mantra if a club has had a higher standing; more success at consistency maybe! Support wise, I remember when Barnsley used to average around 5k, crowds up to 16-20k when doing well in a higher league - we are on a par with that (except I think we'll always average more than 5k).

[4D]

Seriously?!  We average 8,000 right now in League 2.  Do you really think that two promotions would add only another 2,000 to the gate?  Just 10 days ago we had 29,000+ fans at Wembley, a proportion of whom would certainly be persuaded to come along more regularly if Championship football was on offer.  And then you have the significantly increased away attendances as well.

I am fairly sure we would average well above 10,000 in the Championship.  That is why the infrastructure development piece is so important because, as Red Rag pointed out, it would have to go hand in hand with success on the pitch.  No way of proving this, but my hunch is that two promotions and a fully redeveloped, town centre stadium would add at least 50% to our present gates, and probably more.  Attendances in the low to mid teens should be perfectly achievable...with more than that for the very big games.

Depends on how well we do . In all honesty there is no reason we couldn't average 11-12k, but we only managed 8k home fans against Rovers and that's when we are top of the league in a local derby (Ok, it's only league 2).

[Benzel]

Well my theory for the Rovers attendance is that we've had Wembley and near 4000 people renew their season tickets this month, I doubt any bugger has a penny to their name!

[Reg Smeeton]

Nothing to do with the manager or team then, just the stadium

There's plenty of examples of how a new or redeveloped stadium can increase attendances...even the scum, with their shithole by the sewage works have had bigger crowds at the Kassam, than at The Manor.

[kerry red]

It's the old chicken and egg scenario.

Is it 'Build it and they will come' or is success on the pitch a prerequisite for more fans?

If a few millions are thrown at a revamped stadium but the progress on the pitch stalls, then all we will get is the moaners saying the money should have been spent on the team.

It is a very difficult balancing act - but the board must know what sort of financial commitment they are prepared for.

My view is that without success on the pitch or at the very least the prospect of it, no more fans will turn up no matter how good any new stadium may be.

Coventry and Derby are another couple of clubs with new grounds but underachieving on the pitch despite decent crowds