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Barry Scott

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 21:18:49 »

England and Rooney failing amuses me. Since 2010 I fucking hate them.

@nochee I was at The Shaw Ridge Tavern for Euro '96. I'm sure I remember a telly or 2 getting smashed when we went out.
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 21:47:57 »

I must be only one who thinks that anymore than a yellow for that is bollocks.  Rooney's still an arse, but he kicked the bloke...a bit...so what?  Hardly fucking dangerous, he hardly fucking touched him.

Where have you been for the last 10 years? Kick an opponent off the ball like that and it's a straight red.

@nochee I was at The Shaw Ridge Tavern for Euro '96. I'm sure I remember a telly or 2 getting smashed when we went out.

I was there for the Scotland game and one got smashed, think it was a Scottish fan after the Gazza goal.
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« Reply #17 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 07:28:58 »

A ridiculous sending off and he deserves his punishment.

Disappointed that most of the press reaction has been about whether we should take him rather than criticizing Rooney himself for even making it an issue.

There does seem to be a distinct imbalance in much of the printed media in this country where certain people (Rooney, Harry Redknapp spring to mind) can seemingly do no wrong, I guess because they are so quintessentially 'English' in their approach to football.

You then get someone like Cappello with an incredible track record in management who the press can't get out the door fast enough, even though he has the highest winning percentage of any England manager, ever.
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« Reply #18 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 07:49:43 »

There's no point in playing him in the friendlies if he's missing 3 games, we need to sort out a system without him for the group stage.

I agree with Donkey. Yes, by the rules it's a red, but I hate the rules. Punching someone in the face is properly violent, but red cards for shoving someone over, or kicking out like he did aren't dangerous. The reactions of some players are worse than the 'assaults' on them! Football is too soft.
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« Reply #19 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 07:52:11 »

I like many of you have become detatched from the national side. The last decent tournament I can remember watching was either the WC in 98 or 02. I think since then (for me) players have been marketed as 'superstars' and have nothing in common with you or I. Why should I idolise someone who £100k+ a week, when they think it's ok to smash grannies or shoot people with air rifles? This is part of the beauty of supporting Swindon, you feel more connected to the players as they don't seem so arogant or self righteous.

That for me is why I couldn't give a fuck about England.
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« Reply #20 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 07:55:01 »

In one, Jimmy.  The bond between the man on the street and the player wearing the England shirt has gone now.  England football means next to nothing to me now.  And that's me, as a football fan.
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« Reply #21 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 08:05:42 »

Deserved what he got in my opinion. He's England's best player but I don't think England are ready to win any tournament yet so with or without Rooney, it's irrelevent.

@nochee, who's the Brazilian player?
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« Reply #22 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 08:17:24 »

Deserved what he got in my opinion. He's England's best player but I don't think England are ready to win any tournament yet so with or without Rooney, it's irrelevent.

@nochee, who's the Brazilian player?

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« Reply #23 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:00:23 »

Rooney is a clown. A brilliant player, but a clown. It's easy to come up with lines like "we wouldn't have won it anyway" but come next summer most of us will be watching the games and hoping to see England progress as far as possible. If losing Rooney means we go out one stage earlier then he's let everybody down, from the team to the fans.
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« Reply #24 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:04:16 »

I like many of you have become detatched from the national side. The last decent tournament I can remember watching was either the WC in 98 or 02. I think since then (for me) players have been marketed as 'superstars' and have nothing in common with you or I. Why should I idolise someone who £100k+ a week, when they think it's ok to smash grannies or shoot people with air rifles? This is part of the beauty of supporting Swindon, you feel more connected to the players as they don't seem so arogant or self righteous.

That for me is why I couldn't give a fuck about England.

Seconded....some of these tossers should watch the rugby world cup very closely to see what it means to play for your country.
Secondly, someone mentioning Euro 96 is fitting, since for me this is the last time that the feeling of supporting England was on a par with that for STFC.
Such is the state of things, for me it has now been reduced to beyond indifference, almost to resentment.
Very sad.
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« Reply #25 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:16:45 »

some of these tossers should watch the rugby world cup very closely to see what it means to play for your country.

Going out on the piss and jumping off a ferry?
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« Reply #26 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:23:10 »

I was going to say 'England', but changed it to the more general 'country'....yes, the England rugby team have acted like arseholes  - the silly pricks.
BUT, on a more general note, look at the way they sing the anthem, how they are pumped up for the games and the effort put in...and I firmly believe this is purely down to wages...I honestly think they are more in touch with the general public (the other side of the coin to what JGIAA was saying above)
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« Reply #27 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 11:34:22 »

Playing football for England means jack shit to players these days. Why risk losing your place in your home team where the real money is....

Cricket is a good example of where you get paid jack shit UNLESS you play for your country. As regards Rooney - the bloke has no brains so nothing should surprise us about his behaviour. I have invested years of emotional energy in supporting England but after the last time I have decided to devote that emotional energy into supporting The Red Army... Hmmm
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« Reply #28 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 11:38:32 »

Cricket is a good example of where you get paid jack shit UNLESS you play for your country.

Not quite so true now with the IPL sadly- Kieron Pollard barely plays for the Windies and makes plenty of dosh, as do Gayle and Dwayne Bravo. Not really affected the English side yet, but it's definitely starting catch up with the Windies.
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« Reply #29 on: Friday, October 14, 2011, 11:53:29 »

England football means next to nothing to me now. 

I only had a vague awareness of when the last two qualifiers were. In fact somebody in the office said "are you watching England tonight" to me and I didn't even know it was on.

I'll still watch them if I remember and come 2012 will want us to do well. But I don't care if I miss it these days - much like the Premiership.
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