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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 19:56:49 » |
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Summerof69 makes a very good point about Unions being hypocrites. It amazes me that these outdated organisations still wield so much influence.
The leaders of these organisations are champagne socialists in the truest sense. Look at their salaries, pensions and benefits in kind (paid for by union subs and in some cases, even the fucking taxpayer!)
As for the strikes, a ridiculous waste of time (and taxpayers money) that will achieve nothing. Time for the public sector to be culled massively. The create no wealth. 60% are nothing but self serving parasites.
I only wish Maggie destroyed the Unions when she had the chance.
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Genius, Gentleman Explorer, French Cabaret Chantoose and Small Bets Placed and someone who knows who they are changed my signature but its only know that I can be arsed to change it....and I mean all the spelling mistakes.
Was it me? It can't have been an interesting enough event for me to remember - fB.
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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 19:59:49 » |
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I only wish Maggie destroyed the Unions when she had the chance.
The bitch should have been fucking jailed for what she did to the miners. The Unions aren't perfect but at least we haven't got kids climbing up chimneys. Thanks to our fantastic capitalists we now get children in other countries to go up the chimneys. |
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Ironside
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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 20:01:23 » |
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The bitch should have been fucking jailed for what she did to the miners.
The Unions aren't perfect but at least we haven't got kids climbing up chimneys. Thanks to our fantastic capitalists we now get children in other countries to go up the chimneys.
Don't let your emotions get in the way of reasonable debate chalkie. |
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Genius, Gentleman Explorer, French Cabaret Chantoose and Small Bets Placed and someone who knows who they are changed my signature but its only know that I can be arsed to change it....and I mean all the spelling mistakes.
Was it me? It can't have been an interesting enough event for me to remember - fB.
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« Reply #33 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 20:02:21 » |
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This "step" is about reducing public expenditure rather than increasing provision.
I don't share your optimism that any government will address that issue in a meaningful way.
The introduction of NEST is a baby-step that has been watered down since first proposed and I don't belive it will have any major impact.
This isn't having a pop at any specific government but a modern-day politician that will do what is necessary rather what they believe will be popular is very rare. It's certainly not Cameron and nor was it Blair or Brown.
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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 20:04:35 » |
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Don't let your emotions get in the way of reasonable debate chalkie.
What's wrong with what I said? |
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Ironside
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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 20:06:28 » |
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What's wrong with what I said?
I know you hate maggie dude, i might have been fishing a little! |
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Genius, Gentleman Explorer, French Cabaret Chantoose and Small Bets Placed and someone who knows who they are changed my signature but its only know that I can be arsed to change it....and I mean all the spelling mistakes.
Was it me? It can't have been an interesting enough event for me to remember - fB.
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« Reply #36 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 07:55:30 » |
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Summerof69 makes a very good point about Unions being hypocrites. It amazes me that these outdated organisations still wield so much influence.
The leaders of these organisations are champagne socialists in the truest sense. Look at their salaries, pensions and benefits in kind (paid for by union subs and in some cases, even the fucking taxpayer!)
As for the strikes, a ridiculous waste of time (and taxpayers money) that will achieve nothing. Time for the public sector to be culled massively. The create no wealth. 60% are nothing but self serving parasites.
I only wish Maggie destroyed the Unions when she had the chance.
It already has- and yeah who needs teachers, police, fire, ambulance, environmental heatlh, health services, social services, armed forces, coastguard, etc etc, the market is all we need. And as for unions, diamond miners in Africa don't have them and it hasn't done them any harm has it? |
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Ironside
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« Reply #37 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 09:45:55 » |
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It already has- and yeah who needs teachers, police, fire, ambulance, environmental heatlh, health services, social services, armed forces, coastguard, etc etc, the market is all we need. And as for unions, diamond miners in Africa don't have them and it hasn't done them any harm has it?
Yes but diversity co-ordinators, yoof outreach workers, street football managers and all the thousands of non jobs that you see advertised in the Guardian can all fuck off because they are pointless and nothing but a drain on public spending. As for diamond miners in Africa, I truly couldn't give a fuck. |
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Genius, Gentleman Explorer, French Cabaret Chantoose and Small Bets Placed and someone who knows who they are changed my signature but its only know that I can be arsed to change it....and I mean all the spelling mistakes.
Was it me? It can't have been an interesting enough event for me to remember - fB.
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« Reply #38 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 10:28:10 » |
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Yes but diversity co-ordinators, yoof outreach workers, street football managers and all the thousands of non jobs that you see advertised in the Guardian can all fuck off because they are pointless and nothing but a drain on public spending.
As for diamond miners in Africa, I truly couldn't give a fuck.
Didn't realise you read the guardian, thought you were more a Sunday Sport type of fella. Yeah I guessed you aren't too concerned with the plight of anyone else, must be great being part of the master race. |
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« Reply #39 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 11:41:26 » |
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It's only right and proper that cunts like DMR pay back their rightful wack to us older folk, who've lived through 50's austerity, 60's break up of the British Empire, and the value of Stirling becoming worthless, so screwing our savings....70's inflation meaning that public sector pay, only just covered the cost of beer and food....80's mass unemployment, and the 90's when rampant capitalism allowed events like Black Wednesday, when a handful of speculators could plunge millions into negative equity....and then we have to bail out then bankers in the noughties. All so that young tax dodging cunts can avoid having to go off to some global conflict like my father and grandfather and great grand father before him
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« Reply #40 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 11:49:25 » |
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The first step for the Government should be to announce that the current pension scheme is to be closed to new entrants, replacing it with a standard defined contribution scheme.
Then they should address the affordability of the existing scheme.
At least things wouldn't get any worse in that regard.
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Paolo Di Canio, it's Paolo Di Canio
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« Reply #41 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 12:33:46 » |
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At least things wouldn't get any worse in that regard.
I fear you grossly underestimate the ineptitude of the powers that be. |
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« Reply #42 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 12:45:22 » |
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They'll never let it get (much) worse for fear of the political fall out.
Yes, there's quite a furore about the current plans. But that would pale into insignificance at what would happen if the scheme went completely bust.
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« Reply #43 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 12:50:28 » |
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One load of pensions that should be reviewed are the MP's pensions. They are even more luxurious than the Public Sector ones. I lost count how many times it had to be topped up in the last Parliament.
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« Reply #44 on: Wednesday, September 21, 2011, 13:18:11 » |
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The first step for the Government should be to announce that the current pension scheme is to be closed to new entrants, replacing it with a standard defined contribution scheme.
Then they should address the affordability of the existing scheme.
At least things wouldn't get any worse in that regard.
The government haven't offered final salary pensions for years. I've been a civil servant for over four years and I haven't got one. |
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