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« Reply #90 on: Friday, May 27, 2011, 21:43:16 » |
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Wilson and Hart were both partly to blame for last season but the board were more responsible than either of them IMO.
I don't get this. Out of Wilson, the players and the Board, the Board are least culpable in my view. If anything, the Board are guilty of being too loyal to Wilson, but Wilson is guilty of wasting the Board's money on shit signings and the players are guilty of doing all their talking in the Adver/Old Town bars and fuck all on the pitch (with a couple of exceptions). |
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« Reply #91 on: Friday, May 27, 2011, 22:03:09 » |
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wilson out protests already at their ground today.
imo there are plenty of better candidates and he's fucked already.terrible mistake by their chairman
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« Reply #92 on: Friday, May 27, 2011, 22:24:37 » |
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I don't get this. Out of Wilson, the players and the Board, the Board are least culpable in my view. If anything, the Board are guilty of being too loyal to Wilson, but Wilson is guilty of wasting the Board's money on shit signings and the players are guilty of doing all their talking in the Adver/Old Town bars and fuck all on the pitch (with a couple of exceptions).
Good post. The board / Fitton played a big part in last season. I dont think anyone can accuse them of not investing though. Ditto this season - if only for PDC's wages and backroom staff - so far. |
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« Reply #93 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 12:23:59 » |
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I don't get this. Out of Wilson, the players and the Board, the Board are least culpable in my view. All the problems last season started with the sale of Greer which was a board decision. Not only did that weaken the team it also undermined Wilson because it was clear that decision was taken over his head. Likewise the sale of Austin, and both sales were made very late in the transfer window giving very little time to sign adequate replacements. Overall Im a big fan of the board and what they've done for the club, but they made the biggest mistakes last season. I just hope they've learnt the lessons. |
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Arriba
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« Reply #94 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 12:31:27 » |
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All the problems last season started with the sale of Greer which was a board decision. Not only did that weaken the team it also undermined Wilson because it was clear that decision was taken over his head.
Likewise the sale of Austin, and both sales were made very late in the transfer window giving very little time to sign adequate replacements.
Overall Im a big fan of the board and what they've done for the club, but they made the biggest mistakes last season. I just hope they've learnt the lessons.
i agree mostly,but not about austin. i heard what he got as his signing on fee and wages.he would have been mad not to leave when he did.could have broken his leg and never played again. the board couldn't stop that move. |
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« Reply #95 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 12:31:50 » |
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I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Wilson had more than enough resources to find replacements. Despite these resources he completely and utterly failed in epic proportions, other managers would have (and did) managed on a fraction of what Wilson had to work with.
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« Reply #96 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 12:33:03 » |
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Likewise the sale of Austin, and both sales were made very late in the transfer window giving very little time to sign adequate replacements.
I think there was a lot more to the Austin sale than we'll ever know though. By all accounts he was a total cunt and keeping him was simply not a option. |
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« Reply #97 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 12:46:34 » |
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By all accounts he was a total cunt and keeping him was simply not a option. Dot Cotton's been feeling a bit like that recently. |
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« Reply #98 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 13:09:42 » |
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i agree mostly,but not about austin. i heard what he got as his signing on fee and wages.he would have been mad not to leave when he did.could have broken his leg and never played again. the board couldn't stop that move.
Agree although the fact that it was obvious a good 6 months before he left that we would need to replace him and his goals makes it look very poor indeed that they didn't get a replacement in. They have paid the price of gambling with what they had instead of splashing out on a new striker. |
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« Reply #99 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 13:11:55 » |
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Agree although the fact that it was obvious a good 6 months before he left that we would need to replace him and his goals makes it look very poor indeed that they didn't get a replacement in.
They have paid the price of gambling with what they had instead of splashing out on a new striker.
I wish that people would stop saying there was no money when they quite clearly was. They were willing to splash out on a new striker to the tune of AT LEAST 300k. The money WAS made available and it does my head in that people keep saying it wasn't. |
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« Reply #100 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 13:26:27 » |
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And whose responsibility is it to get a replacement in anyway? The boards?
Asides from making funds available for transfers and wages which they quite clearly DID as a nailed on FACT no matter how much some people deny it, what else are they supposed to do?
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« Reply #101 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 13:27:43 » |
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I wish that people would stop saying there was no money when they quite clearly was.
They were willing to splash out on a new striker to the tune of AT LEAST 300k. The money WAS made available and it does my head in that people keep saying it wasn't.
You dont know what strings were attached to spending that sort of money. Would it have been available for a 26 year old player? Honestly think that Fitton would not have resigned if he (and the rest of the board) had felt his policies were blameless in our relegation. |
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« Reply #102 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 13:33:15 » |
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You dont know what strings were attached to spending that sort of money.
Would it have been available for a 26 year old player?
Honestly think that Fitton would not have resigned if he (and the rest of the board) had felt his policies were blameless in our relegation.
How fucking terrible for him. 300k +, plus wages to spend on a striker in league 2 but he was restricted by age. Come on. The vast majority of managers in League two would loved to be 'shackled' to such a degree. And we don't know if it would have been available for a 26 yr old do we? So I don;t see how that could be used as an argument anyway. And still. Why are people saying the board were not willing to splash the cash when it is FACT that they were? It's a fucking undeniable FACT. |
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« Reply #103 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 13:52:26 » |
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£300k on a striker who was so young he might not have been able to help us much anyway. Long term planning, not the firefighting that was required in january.
Fitton's had his say on it, will be interesting to see if Danny Wilson will comment, or whether he will continue his dignified silence.
Im not interested in having this argument with you anymore. I dont think weve heard both sides of the story. It doesnt matter that much to me in terms of my view of Danny Wilson. Overrall I think he did a great job, and was a top bloke, but 3 crucial free signings were a disaster for him, Prutton, Dossevi and Pericard.
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« Reply #104 on: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 13:59:44 » |
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Don't make comments and then say you don't want to discuss it. People shouldn't go about saying things that are just not true. £300k on a striker who was so young he might not have been able to help us much anyway But the money was there, wasn't it? You could say the same thing about any striker as well. Remember Thorpe and Cureton? Going by your argument we had might as well not bother signing anybody. Besides, that lad did quite well for Plymouth IIRC so you've kinds shot yourself in the foot. Long term planning, not the firefighting that was required in january. Again, what were the board supposed to do? They tried making links with other clubs, set up a scouting network and made funds available for transfers and wages. What else could they possibly do? |
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