Adver News: Di Canio emerges as surprise favourite

[nevillew]

Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle, even Macmahon, & Wise.

Bring me sunshine ?

[herthab]

Ahhh yes, three managers who had little if any managerial experience before coming to the town. Three managers who seemed a huge risk at the time. We could also include Steve McMahon in that list too, (remember him? He won us a trophy too you know).

None of the managers in the list above had anything that Paul Bodin doesn't have. I think we should give him a go, (pehaps in partnership with Martin Ling).

My point was that we've had more success with managers that had no previous link with the club.

If Bodin gets it, solely on the fact that the board decide he's the best candidate, fine.

If he gets it due in part to his history with the club, I won't understand it.

It's never worked before.

As to the managers we've taken on who had no prior experience, in the main they've done a decent job. I would rather have a big name, ex player in charge, who's hungry for success, than someone employed partly due to sentimentality.

[Reg Smeeton]

 The problem with picking a new boss, is that it's such an inexact science. Take Nigel Adkins, has now had 3 promotions from L1 in 5 years.

 Had a fairly modest career as a player keeping goal for Scunthorpe...on finishing, managed Bangor City for a couple of years in the LoW in the mid 90's.  Jacked that in to go to Uni, and had been physio at Scunny for some years, before getting a crack as caretaker, the rest being history.

He'd be about the same age as Zippy, but crucial differences....Bangor won the LoW a couple of times when he was there, and Uni thing suggested an ability to think outside the box a bit.

If we were in Scunny's shoes, I don't think anyone would have been too impressed with giving the job to the physio, who had a bit of non league experience 10 years ago.

Anyone remember Richard Dinnis?  He was given 1st Division Newcastle in 77, when Gordon Lee quit, he had no pro football experience, because he was a school teacher....lasted about 5 mins, and Newcastle got relegated. Certainly no Dr Jozef Venglos.

[flammableBen]

I don't think we should appoint Richard Dinnis then.

[deltaincline]

As far as I can see, Bodin has shown zero in ambition terms to want to break into management since he quit Bath. You dont get to 46 years of age without getting at least one shot at managing - even as an assistant - at league level if you have real ambition and desire burning away.

He strikes me as a bit of a plodder, happy to sit in the background earning his corn out of the glare of the spotlight. He said himself in the press last week that he didnt know if he could cut it when it comes to signing players etc.

Absolute legend that he is, is he really the type of management character we want to kick us back into shape?

[pauld]

As far as I can see, Bodin has shown zero in ambition terms to want to break into management since he quit Bath. You dont get to 46 years of age without getting at least one shot at managing - even as an assistant - at league level if you have real ambition and desire burning away.

He strikes me as a bit of a plodder, happy to sit in the background earning his corn out of the glare of the spotlight. He said himself in the press last week that he didnt know if he could cut it when it comes to signing players etc.

Absolute legend that he is, is he really the type of management character we want to kick us back into shape?

Couldn't you have said much the same about Adkins a few years' back though?

Like Reg says, there's no template for picking the right manager. Don't think many would have picked out Paul Lambert as the superstar he's currently reckoned to be a few years back either. There's as much luck as there is judgement in making the right appointment

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

It's all about getting the right man for the club. Look at Lambert as Pauld says. Didn't really do much at Wycombe or Colchester but went to Norwich and has set the world alight there. I doubt Poyet would have done as well as he's done at a different club either. Brighton suits him. He even admits that. Certain managers go with certain clubs. We need to find one that works for us but it's not easy. Maybe someone like Trollope would actually do really well here? We just dont know.

[BANGKOK RED]

I've got a hunch Trollope could do great if he can get the players he wants.

[Abrahammer]

I am warming to the prospect of Trollope.

Look at the managers who got teams out of league 2 this season.  Sheridan, Knill (mostly) and Waddock.

None of those names are exciting high(ish) profile but they know that standard an awfull lot more than a Di Canio or even a Hoddle these days.

[Peter Venkman]

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/862445-paolo-di-canio-interested-in-replacing-avram-grant-as-west-ham-manager

Paolo Di Canio 'interested' in replacing Avram Grant as West Ham manager

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/862445-paolo-di-canio-interested-in-replacing-avram-grant-as-west-ham-manager#ixzz1LuV7SVVG

[Bob's Orange]

Can someone post the template for appointing a new manager please? Thanks.

[Peter Venkman]

Can someone post the template for appointing a new manager please? Thanks.

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[Bob's Orange]

Thanks JJ.

I'd go for Gladstone Small based on that template.

[Costanza]

Paolo Di Canio would ditch Swindon the moment a big club comes along. It's what Lou Macari (earned it), Ossie Ardiles, Glenn Hoddle, Colin Todd and Dennis Wise all did it. While Paul Sturrock went back to 'his club in England' Plymouth, Di Canio would do the same with West Ham came knocking.

It doesn't bother me to be honest because we're a small football club and you cannot prevent the lure of higher leagues.

We "got over" relegation when Dennis Wise was appointed, luckily he put the club in a good position before buggering off to Leeds. I can see why people want an exciting appointment but I must admit, I'm far more interested in Town bringing a manager in who can stop the slide and possibly put us in a situation where we can push for promotion.

Speculation is fun.

Also, the debate of appointing a fascist must be a TEF first.

[iffy]

I think having a town connection can be a bad thing. I think the fans would be sentimental about a Calderwood or similar coming in. They'd get a break from the fans that they might not deserve.

On the other hand, pedigree is something to look for. Lambert was a protege of O'Neill. Loads of top managers have played for Ferguson. Brendan Rodgers learned from Mourinho. I'd rather someone who had played for top managers and learned from them than someone who had played for Swindon at some point.