The New Manager Rumour Samdy's Moobs are feeling tender Thread

[Sippo]

But if he was to be appointed and be successful would it matter then?

Where's Gordon Strachan nowadays?

[pauld]

But if he was to be appointed and be successful would it matter then?

That he's a Nazi? Yes

[LucienSanchez]

I'd have Di Canio... his political leanings mean nothing to me, and that salute is a Roman salute, not a tribute to Hitler. There is, believe it or not, a difference between having fascist views and being a Nazi/racist.

[Don Rogers Shop]

Exactly Lucien

[pauld]

I'd have Di Canio... his political leanings mean nothing to me, and that salute is a Roman salute, not a tribute to Hitler. There is, believe it or not, a difference between having fascist views and being a Nazi/racist.

It's done by Lazio Ultras as an explicitly fascist gesture in tribute to Mussolini - calling it a "Roman salute" is just spin. Nazism was just the localised German version of Fascism, there hasn't been a single fascist government ever that has not been racist, including Mussolini. I don't want this kind of shite associated with our club, thanks.

[mrverve]

Be aware that fascism doesn't always mean racism.

[herthab]

That he's a Nazi? Yes

Don't think he's ever come out and said he was a Nazi Paul. Facism is as broad as socialism in it's veiws and aims and while it may be particularly distasteful to us, it is veiwed somewhat differently in Italy.

 

[herthab]

It's done by Lazio Ultras as an explicitly fascist gesture in tribute to Mussolini - calling it a "Roman salute" is just spin. Nazism was just the localised German version of Fascism, there hasn't been a single fascist government ever that has not been racist, including Mussolini. I don't want this kind of shite associated with our club, thanks.

That's rubbish Paul. Although Facism and Nazism shared some political and ideological viewpoints saying they're the same is like saying the Labour Party and The Socialist Workers Party are the same.

[redbullzeye]

Excerpt from the Telegraph


Football hooliganism and Right-wing extremism have historically made easy bedfellows, but this is no ordinary case.

As a boy, di Canio was initiated as an "ultra", or extreme supporter, of SS Lazio (the initials stand for Societá Sportiva), a team founded by Italian army officers in 1900 and the preferred club of Benito Mussolini, "Il Duce", one of the founders of fascism.

The player has, in his autobiography, praised Mussolini as "basically a very principled, ethical individual" who was "deeply misunderstood".

He has the word "Dux", the Latin equivalent of "Duce", tattooed on his arm.

Lazio's connection with fascists has not waned over the years. When di Canio gave his first salute, in a game against the city's other major club, Lazio's hated rivals AS Roma, last January, the crowd included Il Duce's granddaughter Alessandra Mussolini.

"What a delightful Roman salute!" she exclaimed afterwards.

"I was deeply moved.

"I will write him a thank you note."

There is still no black player in the Lazio squad and only a few years have passed since the Curva Nord, the stand where the ultras congregate for home matches, displayed a banner "Team of Blacks, Crowd of Jews" to taunt their counterparts at Roma, who are traditionally extremely Left-wing in leaning.

Di Canio, who has also played for Sheffield Wednesday and Charlton Athletic, maintains that he cannot see what the fuss is about.

He told the Italian news agency Ansa yesterday: "I am a fascist, not a racist.

"I give the straight arm salute because it is a salute from a 'camerata' to 'camerati'," he said, carefully using the Italian words for members of Mussolini's fascist movement.

"The salute is aimed at my people. With the straight arm I don't want to incite violence and certainly not racial hatred," he said.

But, as in Germany, encouraging fascism is a crime in Italy.

Whether di Canio is charged by anyone other than the footballing authorities remains to be seen.

The Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, is on his side, saying that Di Canio is "an exhibitionist but a good lad" and his salute "did not have any significance".

If Di Canio escapes heavy censure, he would not be the first footballer to do so for a similar offence.

In 1996, Mark Bosnich, the Aston Villa goalkeeper, gave a fascist salute to the fans of Tottenham Hotspur, a team with a strong following among London's Jewish community.

He said afterwards he was not aware of that fact at the time he raised his arm. Bosnich was fined £1,000.

On a visit to Berlin in 1938, the FA ordered all of England's footballers to give the fascist salute to their German hosts even though Adolf Hitler was not present.

[BANGKOK RED]

I haven't read anywhere that he is racist.

Fascism simply does not necessarily equate to racism. 

[RJack]

Former Southend Manager Steve Tilson has also put his name forward for the job so i'm led to believe.  Did alright at Southend until the club went tits up and they had to sell all their best players.

It's well documented that Di Canio is a great admirer of Mussolini but political views aside i would still take a gamble on him. Yes he's a bit of a lose cannon but no more than McMuck was as swindon manager.

Di Canio has also done some credible things in football too like the game where he was through on goal and would of quite easily scored but he saw the keeper down and rather the score he kicked it out so the keeper could be treated.  He got a lot of admiration for that as not many other players would have done what he did in that situation

[Saxondale]

Well if berlusconi says hes a 'good lad' then surely that clears his character.

Bunga bunga party anyone?

[LucienSanchez]

I'd like our politicians more if they Bunga Bunga'd at weekends...

[alanmayes]

Former Southend Manager Steve Tilson has also put his name forward for the job so i'm led to believe.  Did alright at Southend until the club went tits up and they had to sell all their best players.

No thanks,he's just taken Lincoln out of the league and down to the Conference.

[dave_bambers_right_sock]

How about Maradona? That would be truly entertaining.

If Maradonna was made manager we could get back a certain Mr Austin as they'd have a thing or two in common


 

I'd like to buy the world a coke
And snort it all with me,
And cut it with a razor blade
In rows of two or three