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« Reply #45 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:34:42 »

Bloody one trick pony.

Better than being a no trick pony....step forward Jason Drysdale!
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« Reply #46 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:36:10 »

Surely the whole point in Wilson buying players is to improve the side? He's been quoted in the past that he'll only bring in players he feels are better than we've already got.

If that means Manky finds himself on the bench, so be it. I don't really understand fans loyalty to players.
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« Reply #47 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:38:49 »

Surely the whole point in Wilson buying players is to improve the side? He's been quoted in the past that he'll only bring in players he feels are better than we've already got.

If that means Manky finds himself on the bench, so be it. I don't really understand fans loyalty to players.

I have to agree with this, if everyone showed blind loyalty to players from the season before then you would never start with any new players.  Lets judge Cadis and Kev on performances this season before deciding who should be first choice right back.
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« Reply #48 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:42:07 »

Well, seen as this season hasnt started so neither have played a single first team game - and completely ignoring all of last season (!!) how do you pick?!?!

If you showed blind loyalty of course you'd still get new players, players would still leave the club and the manager would still want to bring in new players to improve the teanm

All of our players, played there part in a very good season last season. I dont see why all of a sudden it should be forgotten?
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« Reply #49 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:44:01 »

yep that's football herhab.sides will always try to improve on what they have.
doesn't matter what level of football it is.that is the harsh reality of the game for those who play it
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« Reply #50 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 13:20:36 »

Well, seen as this season hasnt started so neither have played a single first team game - and completely ignoring all of last season (!!) how do you pick?!?!

If you showed blind loyalty of course you'd still get new players, players would still leave the club and the manager would still want to bring in new players to improve the teanm

All of our players, played there part in a very good season last season. I dont see why all of a sudden it should be forgotten?

Players should be picked on how they are performing in training and who is the better player in Wilson's eyes.  Yes we had a good season last year but if we signed better players in the summer and are looking to progress and push on for automatic this season then we shouldn't be concerned about dropping anyone just because they had a good year last year.

I think Kev is a good player who had a good season last year, hes better going forward than defending although he was one of the main players who got caught out at Wembley.  Alot of Celtic fans thought Cadis was very unlucky to not be there first choice right back last season and rate him higher than Ferry and Cuthbert so hes obviously a player with undoubted quality.  If Cadis is the better player (we don't know this at this stage) then I see no reason why Kev's form from last season should come into it.
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« Reply #51 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 13:23:51 »

because right now, we dont know at this stage if Caddis is better.

we know what Kev is capable of because we all saw it last season.
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« Reply #52 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 13:27:01 »

because right now, we dont know at this stage if Caddis is better.

we know what Kev is capable of because we all saw it last season.

YOU don't know who is better. I bet Danny Wilson does.
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« Reply #53 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 13:39:51 »

because right now, we dont know at this stage if Caddis is better.

we know what Kev is capable of because we all saw it last season.

So on that basis Ferry should start and Prutton should be on the bench right? because at this stage we don't know if Pruttons better.

We know what Ferry is capable of because we all saw it last season.
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« Reply #54 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 14:35:28 »

I think Prutton may have played a game or two in pre-season.
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« Reply #55 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 14:40:00 »

Big Kev is an important part of the squad - We are going to need to rotate a bit more this season and his versatility at right or left back is a key bit of that - I think he will start at the weekend - Caddis hasnt had time to gel with his new charges yet - unlike Ferry who played all last season and we know what he can offer ... Also expect Caddis to challenge JPM as much as Kev
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« Reply #56 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 14:41:40 »

I think Prutton may have played a game or two in pre-season.

I think Cadis may have played a game or two in pre-season for Celtic, don't think match fitness will be an issue.  Only thing would be how quickly he will gell with our players but that may have happened quicker than we know as he will have had almost a week training with the squad.
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« Reply #57 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 14:56:25 »

if a manager fancies a player,gelling,previous form,training,other players doing ok, etc etc doesn't mean fuck all.he'll play that player as he wants him in the side.
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« Reply #58 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 18:14:05 »

I think Smith is greatly improved and heh as been helped by having a decent GK coach and the experienxce of Lucas, I wouldn't have any worries if smith had to come in.

It is nice to see we have a strong squad, I think we are 2 players short of a promotion charging squad and that is a comanding central defender and cover for the right wing if JPM got injured

Smith is a great shot stopper not seen many better in the lower division, but a shocking flapper with crosses and very poor distribution. If you think back to great keepers like Banks, apart from the save against Brazil everything seemed easy for him his positioning was outstanding, nothing spectacular, not a born shot stopper; being a defender in my days, give me a steady eddy any time, not a shot stopper/flapper they do not give confident vibres through the team. Yes he was outstanding against Charlton, but that just concretes my point really.
Kevin couldn't read a game as long as he has a hole in is bottie.
We currently have the best midfield on paper we've had for many a season, I can see him as an attacking midfielder, but as a full back. its heart-attack time for me, its just my opinon, and if he plays on Saturday which I'm sure he will, then I will sit in my seat and be extremely nervous.
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« Reply #59 on: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 18:28:32 »

because right now, we dont know at this stage if Caddis is better.

we know what Kev is capable of because we all saw it last season.

The point is we don't need to know. DW needs to know though and I think Caddis has come to be first choice, not bit part. Irrespective of whether Amankwah starts on Saturday, if Caddis shows in training what Wilson bought him for, he'll very quickly be in the starting 11.

All that wasn't really my initial point though, which was more to do with how fans latch on to players and become defensive if their position's under threat.

If Amankwah shows he is better than Caddis NOW, he'll play games, if not he won't. What he did last season has got fuck all to do with anything.
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