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« Reply #120 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 19:58:00 »

I've seen the odd BSS game this season, the standard is absolutely dire. We have nowt to fear

They'll put 10 men behind the ball. Will we be able to break them down?
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« Reply #121 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 19:59:31 »

the other side of the coin, Reg, is that a number of premiership teams have players who wouldn't look much out of place here...
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« Reply #122 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 19:59:48 »

I should bally well hope so. They're a BSS team for a reason
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« Reply #123 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 20:10:09 »

But Paynter did great in the lone role, it was only when Revell arrived that he lost his mojo

Through making several posts on the forum. I think I am beginning understand what Wilson is trying to do, and why he is making the comments he is making, especially after the Norwich match about keeping working on it.  So what's not happening?  Macca is effective, he gets crosses in.  Tope doesn't seem to fit the role; and most importantly, where it is needed most the central striker whomever it is does not have the confidence to make a nuisance of himself.  Norwich will be considered a one-off, and the same team will be out on Saturday at Tranmere.  Wilson made an excuse for the striker(s) on Saturday, they didn't get any service.  

There is a plan, there is a system but Douglas being injured and Tope and Revell not providing has shown up the frailties.  Eight of the team are functioning correctly, but until Douglas comes back, and there is penetration from both left and right, the central striker is going to be marooned.  Once there is service from left and right, that will show who should be central striker.  It would make sense with the extra work to be done for the central striker to play one player for each half, plus subs obviously.  This is the position with all the competition.

When O'Brien gets back and Austin has got fully match fit, there are more options.  When Tope goes, Macca can switch to the left, and there are three of them to fight it out in the middle, as Hutchinson can't be arsed.

The 4:5:1/4:3:3 formation might explain why the offer for Macca was not taken, but two rules are being broken for two positions.  Don't ask a player to do what they are not capable of (Cloughie) and play to personnel (Andy King stated this many times).  So there has to be a change in personnel in January.
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« Reply #124 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 20:43:21 »

part of me agrees with what you've put crozzer but part of me thinks you might be over thinking it.

It could as simple as our strikers arent good enough.
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« Reply #125 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 20:50:51 »

I've seen the odd BSS game this season, the standard is absolutely dire. We have nowt to fear

Our team isnt that different to the team that lost at Histon 12 months ago.

Team look mentally fragile without Douglas. If they have a good 10 minutes at the start of the game I could see us crumbling, like we did vs Hartlepool.
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« Reply #126 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 22:19:38 »

part of me agrees with what you've put crozzer but part of me thinks you might be over thinking it.

It could as simple as our strikers arent good enough.


If you include the two wide players (presumably midfield/strikers) and the central striker as "strikers" as simply being not good enough, possibly I am over thinking it.  4:4:2 would appear to be the way to go, but we look weak down the left.   
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« Reply #127 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 23:21:11 »

Look, cut all the bullshit. We just need a fucking striker.

We currently have a posse of players who 'might' do the job, but are struggling for whatever reason. I don't include Austen in that posse as he's an unknown. The rest of em though clearly are not up to the job we need them to do.

Whoever said that about eight of our players are usually firing on all cylinders, was spot on. We have been indifferent lately and we deffo miss Douglas.  We're still a decent side though. If we can start scoring goals again, the rest of the side will sort its self out.

Quoting Rapid Vienna's starting line up against a second rate bunch of sweaties god knows how many fucking seasons ago, does not give me a hard-on. Ditto all the other smart-arsed 'interesting facts' that bear fuck-all relevance to Swindon Town's current lack of goals.

Keep it real, for fucks sake! 
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« Reply #128 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 23:37:47 »

the other side of the coin, Reg, is that a number of premiership teams have players who wouldn't look much out of place here...


True....there are always players who must have done something right once when a scout was watching or something, who aren't in fact very good. Then, of course, there is the "corruption" in football exposed in the recent Keegan thing, whereby Wise got a player signed as a favour to an agent, he wanted to keep sweet.

I've often wondered why Everton signed Lukey Dukey...was it a Scottish football mafia thing?

The classic example of this type must be Paolo Vernazza who is still only about 28, but gradually went from Arsenal in 2000, and England U21, to last season Woking, via a number of gradually smaller stepping stones.
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« Reply #129 on: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 23:55:49 »

Look, cut all the bullshit. We just need a fucking striker.

We currently have a posse of players who 'might' do the job, but are struggling for whatever reason. I don't include Austen in that posse as he's an unknown. The rest of em though clearly are not up to the job we need them to do.

Whoever said that about eight of our players are usually firing on all cylinders, was spot on. We have been indifferent lately and we deffo miss Douglas.  We're still a decent side though. If we can start scoring goals again, the rest of the side will sort its self out.

Quoting Rapid Vienna's starting line up against a second rate bunch of sweaties god knows how many fucking seasons ago, does not give me a hard-on. Ditto all the other smart-arsed 'interesting facts' that bear fuck-all relevance to Swindon Town's current lack of goals.

Keep it real, for fucks sake! 

The point made by Wilson on Saturday was that the team were getting into good positions and not getting the ball in the box.  He felt sorry for the strikers not getting any service.  We could have Michael Owen up front but somebody has to give him the ball.  Cureton was golden boot in the Championship and he couldn't do shit for us and we got relegated the season before.

We are playing some weird formation which is like a defensive 4:3:3, just wanted to know the origin of it.  Yes, this all too complicated and elaborate for a bunch of sweaties, a decent striker would be a good start, but usually they work better in twos at this level.  If you are going to start with one striker and two sort-of strikers on the wings who fuck-off back to midfield and don't get the ball, you'd better have a bloody decent striker in the middle who can go get it.  So you need three strikers with this set-up two of which can play wide midfield as well.  If we haven't got one decent striker, then perhaps you have to think about doing something different.
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« Reply #130 on: Monday, October 26, 2009, 00:23:24 »

Missed Oxford by a whisker.......hopefully we can scrape past Woking..
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« Reply #131 on: Monday, October 26, 2009, 09:17:10 »

I've seen the odd BSS game this season, the standard is absolutely dire. We have nowt to fear

Same as - dire is being kind. They will raise their game, all non-league sides do when they play the pros, but we have more than enough to see them off with ease. We could have caught a cold by drawing Oxford Utd away or similar but we haven't we have drawn a side who have been on a downward slide these past three years. They are pretty well supported for a side in there division and will bring more than enough to fill there section of the Arkells. Can't think of a better draw for us to get into the second round.
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« Reply #132 on: Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:25:51 »

Fola Onibuje plays for Woking or at least he did when they beat one of my local teams Hythe Town in the qualifying rounds
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« Reply #133 on: Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:29:38 »

Fola Onibuje plays for Woking or at least he did when they beat one of my local teams Hythe Town in the qualifying rounds

Paul Weller came from Woking.
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« Reply #134 on: Monday, October 26, 2009, 12:39:26 »

Fola Onibuje plays for Woking or at least he did when they beat one of my local teams Hythe Town in the qualifying rounds

It would appear according to Wiki he's moved onto Grays already.
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