Tony Adams is a wanker thread

[STFC_Gazza]

gazza altering what he aqctually said,and you picking holes in miniscule detail is daft.

Gazza putting a quick rough estimate as was working, and then posted what he actually said at lunch, was not much difference in what was said to be honest.

[nevillew]

Gazza putting a quick rough estimate as was working, and then posted what he actually said at lunch, was not much difference in what was said to be honest.

Or possibly Gazza posting a 'knee jerk' type thing to start with then backing down when challenged ?

[sheepshagger]

Or just Gazza posting complete bollocks ?

[land_of_bo]

Or just Gazza posting complete bollocks ?

Yeah, one too many disco biscuits

[Bennett]

THE EXACT QUOTES ARE...

"Swindon are not a producing club.

"a lot of lower league clubs used to be producing but all the academies have put pay to that. So there's no way you can grow your way out of trouble anymore. Theo (Walcott) for instances was a Swindon bouy who was snapped up young by a bigger side."

"I think yo've got to be realistic about the situation. I don’t think Swindon has got a great level of support financially off the pitch"

"If you look at League One I wouldn’t imagine Swindon would be in the top half in terms of salaries paid. So you pretty much year in and year out go where your wage bill is"

"whether its Danny Wilson, Stevie Coppell or Alex Ferguson, it's irrelevant who's in charge of Swindon Football club - you're going to get the same result. No manager and no coach in the world can make gold out of wood its just impossible to do"

i don't see where the issue is with any of that.
we've not had an amazing ratio of local lads to first teamers. amusing the bouy bit though.

fitton etc have not thrown money at the club where we can see but i think that's a good thing, infrastructure over rapid growth any day of the week.

we've not paid mega bucks in wages (probably after being burnt a few times in the past)

i think he's effectively saying we'll end up mid table which given we're not going for boom/bust football is a good assessment

[The Professor]

I've not read the article, only the comments made on here but I have to say that for many years Swindon have not been a producing club.  The youth system has been a major disappointment for many years, not having the structure or resources put in to make it succesful. We've got by with journeymen players, experienced pro's whose careers are on the decline & free transfers generally.
However one of the factors that make me encouraged by the Fitton takeover is that we now appear to be placing an increased importance on producing first teamers from within. More resources & support are available to this area of the club's business.If some of them really make it & show they are the business then they will move on to clubs in the Premiership or Championship, maybe even to European sides.  That is how Swindon Town will survive & may even flourish.
If Tony Adams pronouncements are his view of the club then he doesn't know what the situation was like in the Fifties.  Swindon Town really were a club bumping along in third division.  Bert Head was appointed & realised that Swindon had to embark on a youth policy. Over a period of 2 to 3 years he transformed the side & showed that Swindon was (and still is) a football town.  Given time it will happen again but Andrew Fitton isn't going to come in & throw money at improving the side with rash purchases.  He's made that plain although the side will be strengthened as & when necessary by sensible purchases.  The signing of Cox, Cuthbert, Douglas, McNamee, Greer & others demonstrate this. The current team has more ability than for several years.
The club is in transition. We have tried living beyond our means & now, given the current economic climate as it affects the game, the club is being run on a sensible & more businesslike basis. We will become a producing club again as we once were. It won't happen overnight & it will take time but I hope to live long enough to see the next generation of Ernie Hunts, Mike Summerbees or God be praised, another Don Rogers running out onto the County Ground pitch in front of packed stands.

[BANGKOK RED]

Good post Professor, I liked that.

[Arriba]

yeah good post prof.
i cannot see us sorting the youth out(the c of e)unless major changes are made unfortunately.
it needs major restructuring imo.
adams was spot on about the academys.we lose lads to chelsea,southampton and reading regularly.
our set up requires money to compete with them.

we are brining in youth players from other clubs, but are failing the local youngsters currently.

[TOWNEND TONTO]

I may take more notice of this interview if it came from a ex footballer i respected,rather than someone who spent large parts of a carer drunk and had no success at all in any of his management jobs.
As for the sober Mr Adams most of the rubbish hes been comming out with makes me wonder if being on the wagon is realy worth it.

For what its worth I dont think their is much wrong at Swindon apart from being a few players short of a good side.
I remember when Colin Todd took over and we signed fucking loads of players all in a few weeks.Most turned out to be panic buys,on big wages and were shit.So take your time DW.

Just remember the young bull and the old bull on the top of the hill.

[The Professor]

Thanks for the compliments.  I don't think the youth structure at Swindon is yet the finished article & I'm sure the number & proficiency of the coaching set up will improve.  However I'm not sure that if I were young enough or talented enough to be considered suitable for joining a club I'd join a Premiership set-up. Personally I reckon I'd get more chance of making it with a League 1 or 2 club with a reputable set-up. So many good young English lads join Chelsea, Man Utd & never make the break through. Perhaps if they joined their local league club they'd progress further and earlier.  That young Chelsea lad Mancienne looks very good & he's gone out on loan to Wolves (I think) - difficult to see him becoming a first team regular for Chelsea for a while.

[Spencer_White]

WHO'S THAT SNIFFING ON THE TOUCHLINE?
WHO'S THAT SLOSHING AT THE BAR?
ITS TONY ADAMS AND HIS MATE
HE LOOKS A FUCKIN STATE
AND HES NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE A MOTOR CAR





genius.

[Danjackson10]

that was the one that was sung over and over and over when we were away to wycombe and he was boss

[jimbob]

i aint read the whole thread but i think i got the gist (sp) from the title and i seem to remember him giving us shit a few years ago again in an adver interview via nwide....anyone else remember that?

[Arriba]

Thanks for the compliments.  I don't think the youth structure at Swindon is yet the finished article & I'm sure the number & proficiency of the coaching set up will improve.  However I'm not sure that if I were young enough or talented enough to be considered suitable for joining a club I'd join a Premiership set-up. Personally I reckon I'd get more chance of making it with a League 1 or 2 club with a reputable set-up. So many good young English lads join Chelsea, Man Utd & never make the break through. Perhaps if they joined their local league club they'd progress further and earlier.  That young Chelsea lad Mancienne looks very good & he's gone out on loan to Wolves (I think) - difficult to see him becoming a first team regular for Chelsea for a while.

depends what you mean by making it.
many at prem clubs wont make it in the prem,but will slip down the leagues to establish themselves as pro footballers. their chances of becoming pros are better than kids in centre of exellences

[The Professor]

I think that it's one you could argue either way. How often do schoolboy internationals never reach the top in the Premiership or go on to achieve success at full international level & other kids who come through from lower league sides do?  I remember reading that Alan Ball never played for his school team - he wasn't good enough. Seems incredible yet at 21 he was playing in the World Cup Final.
I guess the truth is that it is difficult, not to say impossible to predict how far a 15 year old will go in the game at that age.  All you can do is coach them in the basics, encourage them to practise their ball skills & increase their tactical awareness.  The rest is pot luck