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« Reply #150 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 15:57:52 »

Hannan shows his true colours, pimping himself on 'fair & balanced' Fox News.



Presumably he would prefer the US system of healthcare provision which leaves a whopping 15% of the population without cover.  Cock.
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« Reply #151 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 15:59:58 »

I think my favourite part of the lunatic coverage of the NHS was an article saying how Steven Hawking would have been forced to die if he'd been born in Britain under the NHS

For those who don't know, Hawking was born in Britain and treated, repeatedly, on the NHS. Never let the truth get in the away of a good bit of sensationalism eh lads.
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« Reply #152 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 16:06:20 »

The American system is a sham, the NHS is a mess but the American system would be devastating to the country if ever adopted. As soon as you start going down the money versus life route then your asking for trouble.

What worries me most is that this MEP is supposed to represent us in some form or other and he doesn't seem to have a clue...... typical MP.
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« Reply #153 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 16:17:05 »

This blog is a good read, an American view based on experience of the NHS vs the American system

http://potentialandexpectations.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/this-americans-experience-of-britains-healthcare-system/

She concludes:

"given a choice between the two systems, I’d choose the NHS in a heartbeat."

As someone whose wife has primary progressive MS, I agree, we have to visit the NHS on a regular basis and the care we receive is nothing short of excellent.
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« Reply #154 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 16:44:52 »

Thanks for posting that link.  I hope it goes viral and brings home a few truths about the US system.
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« Reply #155 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 16:54:42 »

I heard Hannan on the radio last night and some of his untruths and misinformation showed
that he's a man who never uses or has used the NHS.In the above video,his ignorance is
shown up time and again.I laughed when i heard the interviewer mention the Daily Mail - an icon
of rationable debate  Wink

Here's another video of Hannan on Fox News in the US.

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flammableBen

« Reply #156 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 16:57:30 »

The American system seems terrifying. Not to have that safety net, that whatever happens you've got access to healthcare, is wrong.

Apperently  medical bills are their biggest cause of bankruptcy.

Edit: The crazy thing is that their healthcare system ends up being more expensive than ours anyway. So much for inefficiency of a nationalised system.
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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #157 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 17:08:52 »

If people want private healthcare then they can pay for it as private health insurance. If everyone opted out of the NHS contributions I reckon the government would just hike up tax so you'd get the same net wage.


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« Reply #158 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 17:18:40 »

Oops! I saw the title and thought this was a thread about Richard Littlejohn...
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flammableBen

« Reply #159 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 17:21:31 »

On a vaguely related medical/political/reporting note, I just found it rather amusing that today's Mail and Telegraph have managed to end up with complete opposite headlines.

One's "Babies to get Swine Flu Jab" and the other is "No Swine Flu Jab for Children" (quotes might be a bit off.). I wonder which one is right.
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Rich Pullen

« Reply #160 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 18:04:54 »

This U.S. conservative attack on the NHS is nuts... What are they afraid of? I suppose it's all money related.
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« Reply #161 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 18:05:57 »

I think your forgetting how right wing middle america is
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« Reply #162 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 18:26:47 »

I don't think the American way is right but I also don't think that the NHS is right either!  Some sort of middle ground needs to be found!
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« Reply #163 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 18:38:41 »

I think your forgetting how right wing middle america is

 Oh really ! Wasn't it Middle America that shifted to the Left ? Hence the appointment of Obama.
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« Reply #164 on: Friday, August 14, 2009, 18:39:50 »

As Tony Benn said, the NHS is like a free Buffet and the trouble with free buffets is that you always take more than you need. Or words to that effect. And he's right, but i'd be the last person to call for more regulation to be added to a country already sucked dry and flaccid by over regulation. Maybe we could have a couple of new quangos to look into it?
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