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« Reply #90 on: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 11:53:58 » |
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So Hamiliton has been disqualified from the Aussie GP now then. What's the point of watching the 'races' when the results are subject to change pretty much on a daily basis throughout the following week?
Because he 'lied' to a steward? Ridiculous. The whole sport is. |
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« Reply #91 on: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 16:16:50 » |
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A F1 driver who is liberal with the truth, who would have thought it? Not like the 'cheating square-head' http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5023004.stmStill, at least it makes F1 slightly more interesting |
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« Reply #92 on: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 19:15:21 » |
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It's not really a sport though is it? It's just a big PR/Promotions company.
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« Reply #93 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 09:52:15 » |
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The season became a joke before it ever started when the FIA announced a rule change regarding the championship standings decided on race wins, and then changed their mind when it broke their own policy making procedure/rules.
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« Reply #94 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 10:10:12 » |
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If they had been this harsh with disqualifying people in the past I don't think Schumacher would have won any championships at all.
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« Reply #95 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 13:00:56 » |
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Ridiculous. The whole sport is.
It's not really a sport is it? Snooker, Darts, Chess and Chuckie Egg are all sports, F1 is not. |
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« Reply #96 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 13:06:48 » |
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F1 doesn't descend into farce as so much as dive off a mountain into the Grand Canyon of farce.
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« Reply #97 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 13:35:06 » |
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If they had been this harsh with disqualifying people in the past I don't think Schumacher would have won any championships at all.
Aah, but he drives for Ferrari, so a completely new set of rules would have been introduced just for them! The FIA bend over for Ferrari! |
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« Reply #99 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 14:39:20 » |
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Having looked at the footage and audio between the driver and team, there was obviously confusion as to whether Hamilton should have stayed in 3rd or 4th place which they tried to clarify at the time with the stewards. If they then lied about the facts afterwards they obviously need to be punished but I don't understand why that should affect the results of the race.
The stewards should have made a decision on 3rd and 4th and neither driver should have been excluded. Then separately they should have given penalties for the lying (if there was any), either financial or for the next race.
Fucking about with the results so much after the race is just stupid and one of the many things F1 continually does turning the whole championship in to a farce. It wouldn't surprise me if they revise the results of races and championships from 50 years ago, its the kind of crazy shit they do.
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« Reply #100 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 14:59:44 » |
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At least the first rounds of the touring cars are on ITV4 this Sunday, which will provide a refreshing change from Formula One.
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Wir lassen uns unsere Liebe nicht nehmen
Nicht von den Bullen und nicht vom DFB
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« Reply #101 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 15:27:45 » |
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I agree, but that was 3 seasons ago now. Hamilton was unfairly treated all through last season and still somehow managed to win. Ferrari got away with lots of indiscretions last year that had their car have been silver they would have got done for. How many seasons should Maclaren be punished for before people stop harking back to that season? From what I heard members of the Ferrari team were not exactly honest, hence the reason that Ross Braun lost his job. I don't see them constantly getting the decisions going against them. |
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“Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.” ― Marcus Aurelius
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« Reply #102 on: Friday, April 3, 2009, 16:15:49 » |
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Totally agree with jonny72. Except I don' think the rules as they stand allow that kind of common sense from the race stewards. Absolutely, but I'd bet that kind of thing goes on between teams all the time in one form or other. But two wrongs don't make a right granted. And McLaren do seem to have ballsed up again now, and looking at it in isolation you'd say the stewarsd probably got it right in the end. I say probably, because whilst the FIA are claiming glasnost, has anyone actually seen a proper transcript of what was said in the steward's meeting(s)? I've seen snippets of "he said, she said..." and the radio comms/onboard footage but I have no idea exactly what Hamilton et al said in that meeting. Either way, in the context of one decision I'm not saying the right one hasn't been reached. But add it to all the other shenanigans from last year and the diffuser row. The average fan must surely be put off by not knowing if a race result is the final result. The fact is, McLaren should have been clear on the rules AND been able to get sound and correct guidance during the race. But having been screwed over in the past they are justifiably paranoid. |
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« Reply #103 on: Monday, April 13, 2009, 21:10:24 » |
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Jenson Button will find out if his car is legal tomorrow apparently as thats when the FIA decide.
Have a funny feeling they'll deem it illegal!
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« Reply #104 on: Monday, April 13, 2009, 21:17:10 » |
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it will only be legal once they have painted the car red
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