So, the fans are split...

[DV]

If ou want a relegation dogfight and to go back into league 2 then do just that.

Fitton needs to realise that if he wants to acomp[lish his 3 year plan on a shoestring he needs the right management team in place to do this. At the moment he is just delaying the inevitable

....and who is the right management team. We are not heading towards League Two for fuck sake

for what its worth I dont expect a response, fuck off bart

there we go.

[Simon Pieman]

Do you think we could persuade the bus driver to have a bit of an accident and run over Malpas?

[STFC Bart]

Well you have got one!!

Under Malpas, we will not match last years 13th place finish, and will struggle to stay out of the bottom four. Fitton set a 3 year target to get into the CCC. Now this is season one. Unless we see animprovement on last year (13th), this 3 year plan is going to be difficult to accomplish.

Say we get relegated or struggle to stay up at best- to get promoted in 2 seasons will be tough going as there will be very little room for error.

Fitton is all for doing this on a shoestring- to achieve this you need an experienced management team who can wheal and deal and get the maximum out of an average set of players.Do not believe Malpas or his team have the ability to achieve this. Fact is with almost the same set of players 12 months ago under a diferent management team we were doing much better.

[ronnie21]

There endeth the lesson from the Rev. Bart!

[leefer]

Amen.

[STFC4LIFE]

BART WHO WOULD YOU REPLACE MALPAS WITH?
Try ignore that.

[DV]

last season we finished 13th, we 16th a whole 7 games into the season.

That gives us no indication where we will finish or whether will be in a relegation fight.

I agree that we need to progress past 13th this season but Malpas might do it (he might not) but we wont know unless he is given the season.

Dont make assumptions on where we will finish now because there is a very small chance of it being accurate.

Unless we are in SERIOUS trouble and by that I mean in the relegation zone in the new year than stick with Malpas and judge whether we have progressed at the end of the season.

It'll be easier to compare because final positions can be compared.

We're off form at the moment but there are easily much worse teams and a fair few of them. Our form results wise hasnt been any better or worse than last season.....I think the panic buttons are being hit a bit too early.

[STFC Bart]

The danger signs are there for all to see- total tactical ineptness(Leeds), perservering with players who basically aint cutting it (Aljofree).

I ould go for Cotterrill or Holloway

[Simon Pieman]

Well you have got one!!

Under Malpas, we will not match last years 13th place finish, and will struggle to stay out of the bottom four. Fitton set a 3 year target to get into the CCC. Now this is season one. Unless we see animprovement on last year (13th), this 3 year plan is going to be difficult to accomplish.

Say we get relegated or struggle to stay up at best- to get promoted in 2 seasons will be tough going as there will be very little room for error.

Fitton is all for doing this on a shoestring- to achieve this you need an experienced management team who can wheal and deal and get the maximum out of an average set of players.Do not believe Malpas or his team have the ability to achieve this. Fact is with almost the same set of players 12 months ago under a diferent management team we were doing much better.

Bart, I'm interested in how you have come to your conclusions. What is your reasoning for saying we will struggle to stay out of the bottom four?

[cib]

I haven't got a problem with complaining about players, I just think shouting abuse for the sake of it at a game is counter productive. Take Aljorfree on Saturday, up to the incident with the fans he hadn't put a foot wrong, but they still abused him. Why?

I have to agree, Saturday was embarassing hearing the amount of abuse being spouted by some of our fans to our players. Aljofree looked pretty solid for the game (maybe being pulled out of position a couple of times), but got a fair bit. I took my girlfriend and, although not entirely clued up on football, didn't understand the amount of shit that was being directed at our own players from kick-off to the final whistle especially considering we walked away with a good draw and played well at times.

It is really embarassing to be honest. Fans are allowed their opinion, but to travel 200 miles and slate your team all game just illustrates that that small minority are either a) retarded; b) too pissed up (if possible) or c) both.

The fans just need to get behind the team, and the management. We're 7 games into a tough season with i still believe a good squad. An inconsistent start, but it is still too early to say Malpas can't turn it round, we know the players have got it in them just need to get on a good run. Not jumping on the players backs as soon as they run out the tunnel.

[Reg Smeeton]

Fact is with almost the same set of players 12 months ago under a diferent management team we were doing much better.

  Fact is at the same stage last season we'd won 2 league games, been knocked out of the LC by a CCC side at at CG, and beaten a L2 side in the Paint Pot.

  As you say Bart, much better.

[DV]

The danger signs are there for all to see- total tactical ineptness(Leeds), perservering with players who basically aint cutting it (Aljofree).

I ould go for Cotterrill or Holloway

Leeds was one game and they are the best side in the league. Having an extra man guarntees you nothing. Look at Brighton on Saturday, Walsall had a man sent off after about 20 minutes and another sent off after 40 and they bloody won 1-0!

Sure tactics and Leeds were questionable im not denying that but all managers make mistakes. On saturday Ferguson took off/moved his hard working wingers who stopped Chelsea going forward and bought on Ronaldo and it was all Chelsea after that. One mistake/wrong decision doesnt make a season. Neither do two or three.

Aljofree has played like everyone else....some good games some bad games and the odd terrible game. He hasnt been any worse than alot of other players but seems to be getting all the stick.

[Simon Pieman]

I can understand why people have been frustrated at the team and want the management to improve the issues which are quite evident on the pitch.

I don't understand why people do boo the manager or particular players. I want us to win and if I'm at the game I think supporting the team is more likely to make that happen. In truth, I walked out 10 minutes early at the Leeds game. I'd rather do that than boo, unless we were a club in crisis, then I'd have to dig out the orange gubbins and go round the back of the Arkell's stand once again.

[michael]

I stayed to the end of the Leeds game to avoid the rush

[DV]

Last Season after 7 games. w2 d4 l1 Points 10

This season after 7 games. w2 d2 l4 Points 8

As Reg said, hardly a world of difference on a results level.