british

[Spencer_White]

i might be a spaz but apart from brez and pssibly nallis is our entire squad british? Surely in this day and age that is pretty unusual? when was the last time we had a totally british squad, i reckon maybe 89?

Yeah, its been good recently.

[Nemo]

Barry Corr is Irish, so technically not British. Thought that would fit with the pedantry of the thread.

[reeves4england]

Like it STA, good pedantic work.

Interestingly, my grandad was born in Prague in Austria-Hungary, my Mum in Prague in Czechoslovakia, and a cousin in Prague in the Czech Republic.  My dad's family is from L'viv in Ukraine, which has been called Lemberg (by the Germans when they ran it) and Lvov by the Russians and Poles.

Stalingrad was orignially Tsaritsyn, and is now Volgograd.  Leningrad was St Petersberg, Petrograd for a few years and now St Petersberg again.

All these changes in the 20th Century...by far my favourite century from a European History point of view.

I may have had a point when I started...but I may not have.

Oh, I reckon Brezovan's first name is Petr, rather than Peter...

It is St Petersburg, not St Petersberg.
This may seem like an irrelevant point, but infact it makes the whole thing with the name changing look quite funny. Petersburg is Peter's Town, with the Dutch suffix 'burg'. The reason for the name change was that Petersburg sounded too German, despite it being a Dutch name.

Asleep yet?!

[donkey]

It is St Petersburg, not St Petersberg.
This may seem like an irrelevant point, but infact it makes the whole thing with the name changing look quite funny. Petersburg is Peter's Town, with the Dutch suffix 'burg'. The reason for the name change was that Petersburg sounded too German, despite it being a Dutch name.

Asleep yet?!

Nope

I always get the berg/burg bit mixed up...I blame my little dylexsia. 

Right about the name change to Petrograd, of course.  I think it says a lot about the Russian leaders that after communism they chose to rename the city after the time of the Tsars instead of a time when there was a least some form of government representing a wider cross section of people (the Provisional Government).  Having said that the Prov Gov was not elected, so...

[janaage]

Barry Corr is Irish, so technically not British. Thought that would fit with the pedantry of the thread.

I would put that down to pedantry, I put that down to fact.  I don't think too many Irish folk would like to be called British.

[herthab]

They live within the British Isles.

So they're British whether they like it or not.

[BANGKOK RED]

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks

Istanbul (Istanbul)
Istanbul (Istanbul)

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks

Istanbul

[wheretherealredsare]

Red pedantry ... it's St. Peterburg (Санкт-Петербург as she is written out here)

[janaage]

They live within the British Isles.

So they're British whether they like it or not.

I take it this is intended to be filed under the 80% bollocks catagory.  If that's the case how come on your passport it reads The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.  Why would Norn Ire be named separately if it's part of GB?  And Republic of Irelanders are 100% not British.

Soldiers are we, whose lives are pledged to Ireland......

[flammableBen]

Jan, stop being so easy to wind up.

[janaage]

 

I think my age is starting to catch up with me.  It's because I love a decent chat about this kind of thing, nice emmotive (sp) subject.

[flammableBen]

I think my age is starting to catch up with me.  It's because I love a decent chat about this kind of thing, nice emmotive (sp) subject.

okeydokey then.

Switzerland is still European even if it isn't a member of the EU. Same goes with Ireland, British Isles, British.

Or something.

[janaage]

Switzerland is in Europe geographically yes, but in a political union sense no.  However that's irrelevant to the Ireland/GB issue, the point I made regarding Ireland was Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, so how can Eire be, if NI is not?

[BANGKOK RED]

Errrrrm

WAY off topic I know but where has the 'forum' button gone from the top of the screen? I can now only access threads from the 1st screen.

*EDIT*

It's back again now.

apologies for my outrageous interjection.

As you where!

[donkey]

Red pedantry ... it's St. Peterburg (Санкт-Петербург as she is written out here)

Really?!  I had no idea at all.  Good work on the Cyrillic alphabet, btw.

NI is not part of GB as have been stated earlier, but is part of the UK.  What I can't understand is why the media cover Eire as if they were part of Britain.  It may be because so many people of Irish origin live here, but if that's the case why not afford the same courtesy to Poland (or historically Germany, France, Norway and Denmark).  I reckon it's all down the lack of home nations at USA 94 and the Beeb and ITV having to cover something.