McGovern in centre midfield

[Arriba]

becks and bentley,both wide players,not wingers. but lennon and swp play the same postion and would possibly be more classed as wingers.
no right or wrong answers really

[sonic youth]

dell boy former pro?mmmmmm

im sure he posted before he'd played against/for Southampton in the FA Cup

yes but i think he inferred that we shouldn't ask further questions.

No one has ever asked me who I've played for as far as I can remember, Southampton was one of the sides, Brentford was another, if I give the other club than Reg Smeeton will look me up and then you know what a bad player I actually was.

my mistake, i think it was the famous friends thread i was thinking of.

anyway, we are ever so fortunate to have the esteemed presence of an ex-pro amongst us.

Its all total bullshit Sonic, you know the truth you can take the piss with your rapier wit, but I have the scars and memories to prove otherwise.

hehehe

how come you're allowed to take the piss out of me when i get fucked around by a job agency, but i can't make a glib remark about you being an ex-pro?

[flammableBen]

Dell Boy, your burns suck, if you'd burned people at a higher level then you'd know why.

I've had many speedy professional wingers trying to roast me f in my day thanks Flammable, and those were the days when you were allowed to give them a good kick in the first five minutes and get away with it, if you didn't they would torture you for the rest of match, it was the only way to slow down some of those buggers down.

What the fuck does speedy wingers have to do with your burning ability? I think my point has been made.

Someone seems a bit touchy.

What the fuck are you on about, obviously too many people brought you pints today. :roll:

Nah I'm sober. No alcohol has passed my lips for a few days now.

I just think that comments like, "Well if you'd [insert patronising shit here] then you'd understand. Are a really shit way of trying to make yourself look knowledgeable by putting down the other person. In general it just makes you look like a bit of a knob.

Hence the burning thing. I don't really give a shit about the whole winger bollocks.

[Arriba]

you both get touchy at times imo.

[dell boy]

i think dell is wrong but right too :?
if someone is running at you as a defender with the ball then it is the hardest thing to judge.
but if the delivery from a slower player is lethal enough then pace is irrelivant.
its all down to the individual defending each situation.
pace and delivery then you are up against it big time.

yup, summed it up really....

Wingers job is to get the ball into the box for the strikers, JPM is slower than Roberts and less tricky but has a much better delivery, hence I'd rather have him out wide.

All the pace and ability to beat the full back is pointless to the team, if your final ball is pants.

Right the delivery from the wing can be played into the box from the half way line, near the area, etc etc.
The most frightening thing for a defender is when he gets to that bye-line, and to go past the defender you need not just skill but pace to get thre, someone like JPM does not have that pace to get to the bye-line but he can produce a deadly pass from inside the opponents half.

At the end of the day whats easier to stop, a good crosser of the ball, mark tight, or a player who will take you on with pace get to the bye-line and then deliver.

[Batch]

NO DV.

Having a midfielder playing wide does not automatically make him a winger, Beckham was never a winger at least not from every single England match that I can remember him playing in.

Rather he was a Right Midfielder DV. His job was NEVER to skin the opposing fullback, take it to the byline and the whip in a cross, ect ect.

If you remember Beckham's balls came from deep in midfield, regardless of what position he was playing in.

Becks was a world class midfielder DV, be it in the centre or on the right, but he was NEVER a winger. There is a BIG difference.

Difference of opinion.

You have a goal keeper, two full backs, two centre backs, two wingers, two central midfielders and two strikers.

If you play furthest right or left of the midfield you are playing on the wings, therefore a winger.

Beckhams job has always been to get crosses into the box for the strikers, which is exactly the job of a winger?!

No that is not correct - if you played Pook, Easton, Peacock and Allen in the middle who is the winger? Answer none of them, they are playing four across the middle of the park.

If, they are lining up as you typed them

Pook - Easton - Peacock - Allen

Then Pook and Allen are the wingers because they are playing out wide.

I agree with Dell. You can play a 'narrow' midfield 4 without out and out wingers. They are right and left midfielders, a position I have played many times a fair few year ago. I was definitely not a winger!

[DV]

probably the pacey guy if he's got a good delivery.....in Swindon context Roberts doesnt and the assist column would suggest JPM is harder to stop!

[neville w]

Alf Ramsey didn't have wingers

[Simon Pieman]

I think we should sign Beckham and play him on the right because he's always played there, except for a spell at Real Madrid where he played centrally to accommodate Figo.

[wheretherealredsare]

Any chance of a signed shirt, an old pair of boots or an autographed ball?







from Flamma Bleben I mean. Just anything but a signed photograph.

[flammableBen]

Don't think I have any spare shirts, don't have any football boots or a ball. I'm sure I can find something lying around to sign. I could sign my name across your tits if you want?

[wheretherealredsare]

No thanks, as you'd become neBelb ammalf and I would always look down on you. Some things should be revered for eternity.

[red macca]

Our best wide option imo is actually comminges hence the reason Jpm gets time to deliver the ball.Roberts and comminges just does not work so we need mcgovern back on the wing asap

[McLovin]

That and the fact McGovern looks more lost in the centre than he does on the wing. He's disappointed me in every position, to be honest.

[herthab]

That and the fact McGovern looks more lost in the centre than he does on the wing. He's disappointed me in every position, to be honest.

That's what his missus says as well.............................