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janaage
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« Reply #90 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:22:09 »

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A COMPLETE BOYCOTT IS THE ONLY WORTHWHILE PROTEST


Would be a good time to do it, FA cup season ticket holders don't need to go.  But some people won't do it, therefore having 50 people outside the ground won't work.

I'm really lost for ideas now.
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« Reply #91 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:29:00 »

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A COMPLETE BOYCOTT IS THE ONLY WORTHWHILE PROTEST


Would be a good time to do it, FA cup season ticket holders don't need to go.  But some people won't do it, therefore having 50 people outside the ground won't work.

I'm really lost for ideas now.


same here.

If staring into the financial abyss, having months of varying protests, increasing criticism on forums, increasingly hostile media etc doesn't bring home the message then I don't see how more of the same is going to change matters.

The only things that will talk now are money, or very very very very direct action on one person.  The sort that I wouldn't post about or get involved in.  Can't see the 2nd happening anytime soon and the first is beyond our influence right now.
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« Reply #92 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:35:03 »

i have a plan

as we now need floodlights by half-time, lets get the 2nd half delayed by 'pullin the plug' on them, then staging a protest on the pitch-stylie??  

who's in?? I'll bring the wire-cutters  Smiley
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« Reply #93 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:38:09 »

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i have a plan

as we now need floodlights by half-time, lets get the 2nd half delayed by 'pullin the plug' on them, then staging a protest on the pitch-stylie??  

who's in?? I'll bring the wire-cutters  Smiley


You could be onto something actually, letters, protest and boycotts wont work, so what about sabotage instead? Sure it's risky but 1/2 an idea maybe (I don't necessarilly mean the floodlights of course)
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« Reply #94 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:44:10 »

While there is still a club to fight for I will attend a protest irrespective if the "self appointed professional strategists" deem it futile. For some on here it seems more like a tussle over inflated egos rather than standing up for what is right despite the odds being stacked against you.

It seems some fans only want to be part of a large protest with a guaranteed outcome. Unfortunately if you added to the numbers instead or reading about them in the adver then attendances would have been higher.

Has Diamandis given up despite his past record and future issues. You bet he hasn't, and as proud Swindon fans neither should we. I won't be beaten into silence or non attendance by him or others who have given up. I'd would prefer to protest and lose than sit in the pub and say I told you it wouldn't work.
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« Reply #95 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:47:29 »

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While there is still a club to fight for I will attend a protest irrespective if the "self appointed professional strategists" deem it futile. For some on here it seems more like a tussle over inflated egos rather than standing up for what is right despite the odds being stacked against you.

It seems some fans only want to be part of a large protest with a guaranteed outcome. Unfortunately if you added to the numbers instead or reading about them in the adver then attendances would have been higher.

Has Diamandis given up despite his past record and future issues. You bet he hasn't, and as proud Swindon fans neither should we. I won't be beaten into silence or non attendance by him or others who have given up. I'd would prefer to protest and lose than sit in the pub and say I told you it wouldn't work.


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Cant say any more than that really !
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« Reply #96 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:49:29 »

All this bitching looks like people trying to out busy-body each other anyway. There is no right or wrong answer. If there was, it wouldn't have come to this.
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« Reply #97 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:50:52 »

All this bitching looks like people trying to out busy-body each other anyway. There is no right or wrong answer. If there was, it wouldn't have come to this.
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« Reply #98 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:52:37 »

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All this bitching looks like people trying to out busy-body each other anyway. There is no right or wrong answer. If there was, it wouldn't have come to this.


i don't really see the points being made as bitching tbh
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« Reply #99 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 19:54:06 »

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All this bitching looks like people trying to out busy-body each other anyway. There is no right or wrong answer. If there was, it wouldn't have come to this.


i don't really see the points being made as bitching tbh


Well I do so nuh  Cool
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« Reply #100 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 20:00:31 »

I'm not suggesting all action is futile, I just think a level of reality in expectation needs to be made.  Most fans don't give a shit but I did suggest Mr Average STFC fan probably doesn't reside on here anyway.

If you want to do something that will make an impact, then I'm afraid it has to be some form of action being described by others on here, the sort that most will say "I won't condone that sort of action".

Turn up on Mikes front garden

Force some sort of problem at the ground for the clubs Exec bunch

Interrupt the match itself

Invade the pitch

Storm the Board room

These are the things that the person causing the problem might have to listen to and be worried by, but they are the sort of thing 99% of the people on here would not do.  I certainly couldn't claim I'd do any of them.

We are talking the sort of things that are wrong to do, the sort of things we might just have to say are beyond our love of the club etc

Dunno, just ramblin I guess.
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« Reply #101 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 20:04:46 »

from thisis (sometimes little nuggets can be found), the sort of thing I mean and a very passionately worded post:



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If it were up to me (and this is my own personal opinion), I would arrange to have as many fans as possible at the County Ground, from as an early a time as we were able. We would then blockade entry to or exit from the ground, by sitting in the car park entrances.

This would be conducted in a civil manner and without malice. The idea being; to cause as much matchday disruption as possible.

The outcome, if sufficient fans attended, would be to delay matchday traffic and the arrival of players, officials, STFC employees - to the extent that the game may have to be delayed or called off.

The FA cup revenue is essential to this football club and can be used as a huge bargaining tool to make those that don't want to listen, listen.

If money is their motive, it can also be ours. The point is no longer about supporting the club through thick and thin. This is really the end and our actions must mirror the gravity of our situation.

Some may still disagree, vehemently stressing that this or any similar course of action is not in the best interest of STFC.

If this statement is the case, then answer me this: -

What means enough to make you want to stand up and voice your opinion and tell everyone about it until you're blue in the face?

Your partner?
Your children?
Your job?
Your hobbies?

Then ask yourself why? - The answer is as simple and as pure as the driven snow....

PASSION.

Football is my passion, Swindon is its home. Saturday's are everything to me, the lifelong, long-suffering Swindonian, and nothing else in the world compares to the anticipation, nervousness, excitedness or indeed dread as 3pm comes around again.

I never want to lose that feeling.

I never want to lose Swindon Town Football Club.

Sadly, it is dying. On life-support for as long as anyone can remember and dissolving into the ether.

I am not going to let that happen and neither should any one of you.

Apathy no more.

Apathy no more.
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« Reply #102 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 20:16:44 »

just a thought/purely hypothetical/shoot me down if you like/say thats never gonna happen but....

IF we are to survive but had to relocate, for instance to the 'nam to do it, would folk be 'happy' on the basis that we still had a club to support?
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« Reply #103 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 20:22:13 »

i ddoubt i'd travel to chippenham for footy. i'd probably just watch supermarine now and then.

i don't understand the argument that protests aren't worthwhile. even if they weren't, what's the problem with at least trying? i'd rather waste my time on futile efforts than sit idly and watch things unravel.
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« Reply #104 on: Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 20:25:20 »

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I'm not suggesting all action is futile, I just think a level of reality in expectation needs to be made. Most fans don't give a shit but I did suggest Mr Average STFC fan probably doesn't reside on here anyway.

If you want to do something that will make an impact, then I'm afraid it has to be some form of action being described by others on here, the sort that most will say "I won't condone that sort of action".

Turn up on Mikes front garden

Force some sort of problem at the ground for the clubs Exec bunch

Interrupt the match itself

Invade the pitch

Storm the Board room

These are the things that the person causing the problem might have to listen to and be worried by, but they are the sort of thing 99% of the people on here would not do.  I certainly couldn't claim I'd do any of them.

We are talking the sort of things that are wrong to do, the sort of things we might just have to say are beyond our love of the club etc

Dunno, just ramblin I guess.


I disagree with that. Most fans do give a shit, of course they do it's their club as well as yours and mine.

The problem is the same as it's been from the start, getting information out. The Club can come out in the Adver, on the OS and in the local tv media. What can we do? If the Trust say something the club counter by saying that the Trust is a minority of supporters and then proceed to dismiss them as busybodies, or out for their own agenda. Most fans will swallow this.
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