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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 13:42:00 »

Hmmmmm, seems like a lot of work.

I have been considering uni though. How old do you have to be to get 'paid' to go to uni as a mature student?
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 13:57:01 »

i'm on a sports journalism course at brighton uni...

the only one in the country with NCTJ accreditation (national council for the training of journalists)

we've had kevin mitchell (cheif sports writer at the observer) andy afford (ex england A spinner, now editor of some cricket mag that i've forgotten the name of) and others with hundreds of published articles and they all seem to put becoming a journalists down to a number of things...

this sort of professional training is a good start but will no means land me a job as a journo. first thing to realise is the pay is gash; only around 14k for a trainee. freelance work pays pittance and is unpredictable and where before shorthand was a journalist's key skill, now all you need is a tape recorder and a notepad if you can be bothered.

it's easy to slate ritson and the rest of the sports desk but the job is a hard one. generating stories to fill boring days (like we seem to have everyday) is quite a task.
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 14:01:24 »

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http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/swindonnewsheadlines/display.var.1274784.0.on_the_trail_of_the_tags.php

Great campaign this, no wonder the police are right on the case of the criminal masterminds invloved.

I'm no graffiti lover, most of it is pointless shite and basically vandalism. but there are slightly more important things to crack down on in the town

I look forward to the vision of Swindon in the future where you can get mugged in marginally more pleasant surroundings and the mugger wont have paint on his hands. Fantastic


surely a campaign to rid our streets of the moronic tagging bastards is a positive move?
of course there are far worse crimes but i applaud the adver in this graffiti campaign.
its a start at least


I'd rather the local police and newspaper cracked down on drug addicts and the related crimewave they bring than a few scrotes putting bad graffiti up.

I agree that its not pretty or to be encouraged in any way, but does it actually make the steets of the town any safer?  Its purley an aesthtic move rather than actually doing anything positive. Just the type of work the local police love.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 14:16:50 »

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i'm on a sports journalism course at brighton uni...

the only one in the country with NCTJ accreditation (national council for the training of journalists)

we've had kevin mitchell (cheif sports writer at the observer) andy afford (ex england A spinner, now editor of some cricket mag that i've forgotten the name of) and others with hundreds of published articles and they all seem to put becoming a journalists down to a number of things...

this sort of professional training is a good start but will no means land me a job as a journo. first thing to realise is the pay is gash; only around 14k for a trainee. freelance work pays pittance and is unpredictable and where before shorthand was a journalist's key skill, now all you need is a tape recorder and a notepad if you can be bothered.

it's easy to slate ritson and the rest of the sports desk but the job is a hard one. generating stories to fill boring days (like we seem to have everyday) is quite a task.


Thanks for confirming there is a course at Brighton!  Cheesy
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 14:19:32 »

shut up you fat bitch.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 14:42:47 »

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this sort of professional training is a good start but will no means land me a job as a journo. first thing to realise is the pay is gash; only around 14k for a trainee. freelance work pays pittance and is unpredictable and where before shorthand was a journalist's key skill, now all you need is a tape recorder and a notepad if you can be bothered.

it's easy to slate ritson and the rest of the sports desk but the job is a hard one. generating stories to fill boring days (like we seem to have everyday) is quite a task.


Well, speaking as someone who's in the job - although not a sports journalist - hopefully I can add a bit of insight.

Yes, a degree is very helpful indeed, as is a post grad, but none of them at all will guarantee you a job in the business. Plenty of it is about being actually good at writing and finding out stories, being able to cultivate contacts, and also generate stories. Some of it is about being in the right place at the right time. Someone previously mentioned doing your own site and writing your own reports - this would certainly help if the reports were good and eye catching.

You're right to say that it is easy to slate Ritson, but believe me, it is a lot harder than it looks to fill column inches when there's fuck all going on. When you're sat there on a Sunday afternoon with a blank sheet and a deadline ...

The pay is bollocks for new starters but if you stick around it can rise to an acceptable level.

I'd also add that with the way newspapers are going these days, with more an more emphasis on the internet, web skills are becoming key. Also, if you can handle a video camera or know a little about editing, you'll be a shoe in for jobs.

Remember kids, the more skills you have, the more employable you will look to the editors!!!
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 19:39:47 »

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i'm on a sports journalism course at brighton uni...


I'd seriously look into doing some work experience at the Argus, along side your course, as something to add to your cv. It's something that gets people to the top of the pile when I'm sorting out who gets an interview.

I'm a cunt though  Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 19:41:32 »

I don't earn much more than £14k

Big deal if it gets you a career in the long run
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 19:57:25 »

speaking of graffiti, i was in bristol the other weekend and at the bottom of park street, on the side of [what i think is] a sexual health clinic i saw this little beauty

http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/images/outdoors06/windowlover2.jpg
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 20:14:22 »

tis a banksy, and yeah it is a sexual health clinic
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, March 21, 2007, 20:45:28 »

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I don't earn much more than £14k

Big deal if it gets you a career in the long run


exactly, but we don't hear the end of it from people on other courses  :x
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