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« Reply #30 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 10:28:41 » |
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Not surprisingly to most of you I dont back Sturrock at all.
Not just because I think he has weakened the side but mainly because he has OVER backed the current board.
I mean not disagreeing with them is one thing .. but getting overly involved with board room politics has shown where his true loyalties lie.
To me backing the current board is going AGAINST the majority of fans IMO - therefore rightly or wrongly I feel unable to back Paul Sturrock.
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« Reply #31 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 10:53:55 » |
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How has he over backed his employers?
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« Reply #32 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 10:58:11 » |
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by constantly backing them on the radio over EVERY issue - not always just when he is asked a direct question either - it is clear to me he is VERY Pro board and not just to keep his employers happy
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« Reply #33 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 11:32:01 » |
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sturrocks hardly going to slate his employers is he?
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« Reply #34 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 11:45:46 » |
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With his experience and credentials, why would he be ass kissing his employers?? I think we have been bloody lucky to get a manager of his calibre and he is certainly one of the best managers in our division. Peterborough had something like 120 managers applying for that job (ok, according to barry fry) and who did they come up with?? Yep, Darren Fuckin Ferguson who is 34/35 with fuck all experience-Barry Fry would have snapped Sturrock up if he was available for sure and there are teams in League 1 who he certainly could do a job for.
Yes, I agree his substitutions/changes in formation are sometimes a bit random, but he hopefully can learn from his mistakes. I didn't go saturday, but he wasn't scared of owning up to the fuck ups that he made which, from memory, Mr King was totally against doing.
Have you heard some of wiseys interviews lately?? blaming the officials, saying how the point they should have earnt in the week against Brum will cost em champ football next year. And what is happening to their squad? No, I dont care about leeds either, but those who are wishing we still had wise, TAKE AWAY YOUR EMOTIONS AND LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE! e.g. he made that Nicholls bloke from luton club captain, and he's had enough and what with 'the mole' story the other week, that gives me some idea of what morale is like there.
Sturrock was the best man for the job at the time and still is imho, so get off his back and get behind the team and the management, as without doing that, we aint going anywhere.
When Sturrock's contract is up and end of next season, lets see what numptys we get wanting to manage our club and then start saying that we should have offered an extension to sturrocks contract earlier.
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« Reply #35 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 11:55:22 » |
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With his experience and credentials, why would he be ass kissing his employers?? I think we have been bloody lucky to get a manager of his calibre and he is certainly one of the best managers in our division. Peterborough had something like 120 managers applying for that job (ok, according to barry fry) and who did they come up with?? Yep, Darren Fuckin Ferguson who is 34/35 with fuck all experience-Barry Fry would have snapped Sturrock up if he was available for sure and there are teams in League 1 who he certainly could do a job for.
Yes, I agree his substitutions/changes in formation are sometimes a bit random, but he hopefully can learn from his mistakes. I didn't go saturday, but he wasn't scared of owning up to the fuck ups that he made which, from memory, Mr King was totally against doing.
Have you heard some of wiseys interviews lately?? blaming the officials, saying how the point they should have earnt in the week against Brum will cost em champ football next year. And what is happening to their squad? No, I dont care about leeds either, but those who are wishing we still had wise, TAKE AWAY YOUR EMOTIONS AND LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE! e.g. he made that Nicholls bloke from luton club captain, and he's had enough and what with 'the mole' story the other week, that gives me some idea of what morale is like there.
Sturrock was the best man for the job at the time and still is imho, so get off his back and get behind the team and the management, as without doing that, we aint going anywhere.
When Sturrock's contract is up and end of next season, lets see what numptys we get wanting to manage our club and then start saying that we should have offered an extension to sturrocks contract earlier. I think I probably agree with all of that  |
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« Reply #36 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 11:59:03 » |
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Me too.
However not managing promotion this season will be a failure - no doubt about that
He needs to assemble his own team and have a pre season with them before any sort of defining judgement is made. His track record demands that he is given some time.
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« Reply #38 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 13:14:30 » |
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sturrocks hardly going to slate his employers is he? Why not? Slating your employers is a great British tradition! Anyway managers are always moaning about their boards cos they aren't able to strengthen their squads or such and such a player has been sold and they haven't been given the funds to replace them. Didn't Mark Wright have a moan after we played Chester because their 2 top scorers had been sold? Sturrock's in a position where he can have a right old whinge if he wants, it's not as if the board would get away with sacking him. If I was him I'd be photoshopping various board members heads into some porn and emailing it around faster than you can say play-off disappointment. |
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« Reply #39 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 14:12:43 » |
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Dont get me wrong....i'm all for the consortium....but this is why there will always be fans and suchlike who would wholeheartedly disagree with having fans run the club..... Kneejerk reactions galore.
We have to stick with Sturrock a) cause its in his contract that he is here until at least the end of next term and b) because he is a great manager and any manager, no matter how good he is would struggle to get our lot to perform week in week out.
I hope and pray we go up this year however possible, but in fairness if we stayed down I don't think I would be sweating my pants off that we were stuck down here as I think with a summer to himself in the transfer market, Sturrock would create a VERY good team to walk this league.
He needs more time and we should be getting behind the team AND the manager if we want any hope of going up this term. IMO
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« Reply #40 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 14:17:35 » |
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I think with a summer to himself in the transfer market, Sturrock would create a VERY good team to walk this league.
He needs more time and we should be getting behind the team AND the manager if we want any hope of going up this term. IMO I agree with the majority of your post Sharky BUT What is he going to restructure a squad with...................shirt buttons ? |
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« Reply #41 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 14:22:29 » |
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If I was him I'd be photoshopping various board members heads into some porn and emailing it around faster than you can say play-off disappointment. Spacey for Manager   |
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« Reply #42 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 14:39:06 » |
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I think with a summer to himself in the transfer market, Sturrock would create a VERY good team to walk this league.
He needs more time and we should be getting behind the team AND the manager if we want any hope of going up this term. IMO I agree with the majority of your post Sharky BUT What is he going to restructure a squad with...................shirt buttons ? Sorry....I didnt put that in my post as I get bored of talking about it sometimes....but I fully expect you consortium lot to have taken control by that point or i'd have lost all hope for anything from this club in the future..... Can anyone in 'the know' give us a brief update as to what the consortium are currently doing with their time and a rough timescale on the next phase of takeover talks? |
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« Reply #43 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 14:49:39 » |
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Sure
Just popping out for a meeting so if pauld doesnt jump on this in the meantime i'll do my best later mate
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« Reply #44 on: Monday, March 5, 2007, 15:01:28 » |
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I still support the appointment of sturrock, I do believe he will carry us to success in the future when he can build his own team, with his own players.
I do however believe that he is messing things up at present. As others have mentioned - players bonuses and the like, morale really can't be all that high. A number of off form players (roberts, shakes) and troubles with Brown will be leaving these players low on confidence. Fans booeing and have a go at these players just makes it worse. Footballs a confidence game - these players confidence is shattered.
I also strongly disagree with his tactical decisions. Wise often relied (perhaps too heavily) on the individual player - sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. But sturrock seems to opt to take off players that give the team a bit of structure and bring on strikers, moves players all over the place and relies too heavily on the (often ridiculously altered) system
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